# Shy newbie in the UK: Ammo or Instant Shine to start? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 3, 2008, 4:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shy-newbie-in-the-uk-ammo-or-instant-shine-to-start/9641 "2008-03-03T16:59:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![stoiker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f4b2a3/32.png) [@stoiker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stoiker)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2008, 4:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shy-newbie-in-the-uk-ammo-or-instant-shine-to-start/9641/1 "2008-03-03T16:59:07Z")
I’m up for trying something new or different. So what do you guys think is the best thing(s) to go for? Also is it a matter of trial and error testing out which amounts work best? I was considering getting [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) (I take it the shop does ship to UK and I’m not going to have the cops round my door claiming I’m smuggling illegal drugs lol!) and something else. BTW I am tall (over 6ft), Mediterranean in colour, and have an interesting mix of ethnicities. Could call me the Mongrel. LOL! Apart from the confidence issues I have (it takes a lot to get me out my shell, but once out its quite nice!) I just don’t think girls find me attractive, despite some people saying I am. I haven’t noticed anyone giving me the ‘check out’ look, either they don’t or I am blind, and just don’t notice. Also, if people ask “what are you wearing?” whats your response? Can I mix it with say a normal aftershave such as Cool Water or something? Ta for reading. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2008, 7:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shy-newbie-in-the-uk-ammo-or-instant-shine-to-start/9641/2 "2008-03-03T19:36:17Z")
I guess to recommend something different, I need to know what you’ve tried before. If you haven’t tried anything yet try some [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). I think it sounds like what you’re looking for or maybe it just effects me the right way. ---
**Author:** ![stoiker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f4b2a3/32.png) [@stoiker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stoiker)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2008, 9:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shy-newbie-in-the-uk-ammo-or-instant-shine-to-start/9641/3 "2008-03-03T21:01:46Z")
I haven’t tried anything yet, complete noob. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2008, 9:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shy-newbie-in-the-uk-ammo-or-instant-shine-to-start/9641/4 "2008-03-03T21:15:29Z")
Hi stoiker, smartmones has a lot of customers across the pond so no probs there. Ammo is good and Phya is right about recommending Ishine. You’ll want to try each one separately until you get a feeling for how they work. Once you do that you’ll probably like using them together. No need to mix with cologne or aftershave. Ammo is in a cologne base. One of our leading members, Gegogi, says it smells like Nautica Competition, I think it’s similar to Milliseme Imperial, so it’s in the same realm as Cool Water. Ishine and the rest if the “instant” line contains neroli EO to help with stabilization/diffusion. The smell of the neroli is easily covered by your regular cologne or by Ammo. Be sure to read through the “sticky” threads. here are three good ones to start. [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/read-me-first-helpful-topics-on-how-to-get-around/3106](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/read-me-first-helpful-topics-on-how-to-get-around/3106) > [@The Snook's big book o' pheros for rookies](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-snooks-big-book-o-pheros-for-rookies/5879): > > So many pheros, so many newbs asking the same questions… I’ll break this down in a few different ways. Section one is for high school. two is for work. three is for clubbing. four is miscellany. NOTE: I will only be covering the pre-mixed products on this page, since it is being written for beginners. If you’re new to pheromones, please leave the TA, P, and MX series for later, once you’re a believer that -mones can do all I say they can below. Section one High School Firstly, if you’re unde… > [@What pheromones can and can't do: realistic expectations for newcomers](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-do-and-what-they-cant-updated/9558): > > A lot of people come in to the forum and read all the wonderful stories about peoples experiences with [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/). New people end up trying them out with high expectations and usually as they get to know the product those expectations are met to some extent and sometimes not because there expectations were to high But I think its best for people to have a realistic view on what exactly they can and can not do. I get a lot of PM’s from people asking me why "they couldn’t get there cheati… Have Fun!! ---
**Author:** ![stoiker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f4b2a3/32.png) [@stoiker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stoiker)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2008, 10:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shy-newbie-in-the-uk-ammo-or-instant-shine-to-start/9641/5 "2008-03-04T22:22:43Z")
Just ordered my first batch of stuff. Some Ammo and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). I can see this becoming expensive though! You guys going to get a UK reseller? 🙂 Was at a normal haunt today with a friend, went bowling and food after. Seeing as I was already in a good mood, I did make eye contact with some ladies and smiled. Just got a smile back which is normal I guess. So when the stuff arrives, I’ll see what happens. ---
**Author:** ![stoiker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f4b2a3/32.png) [@stoiker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stoiker)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 8:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shy-newbie-in-the-uk-ammo-or-instant-shine-to-start/9641/6 "2008-03-06T08:36:47Z")
Ohh order has been shipped! 🙂 I am already thinking of my next batch to come, I can think of loads of situations which would require the A314 in a mix with others. Can’t wait to give the first two a try out though. ---
**Author:** ![raceryan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/raceryan/32/1740_2.png) [@raceryan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/raceryan)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2008, 11:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shy-newbie-in-the-uk-ammo-or-instant-shine-to-start/9641/7 "2008-03-07T23:38:23Z")
Well, as an experienced N00B to an entry level, I would say try some Inst. Shine, Open and Honest. My first shipment, I tried them in TO GO bottles. With these, you really can not overdose and you can gauge what happens blah blah blah. Really, I would advise you to test your first shipments in TO GO bottles…