# Shy newbie in the UK: Ammo or Instant Shine to start? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 3, 2008, 4:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shy-newbie-in-the-uk-ammo-or-instant-shine-to-start/9641 "2008-03-03T16:59:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 4
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2008, 9:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shy-newbie-in-the-uk-ammo-or-instant-shine-to-start/9641/4 "2008-03-03T21:15:29Z")
Hi stoiker, smartmones has a lot of customers across the pond so no probs there. Ammo is good and Phya is right about recommending Ishine. You’ll want to try each one separately until you get a feeling for how they work. Once you do that you’ll probably like using them together. No need to mix with cologne or aftershave. Ammo is in a cologne base. One of our leading members, Gegogi, says it smells like Nautica Competition, I think it’s similar to Milliseme Imperial, so it’s in the same realm as Cool Water. Ishine and the rest if the “instant” line contains neroli EO to help with stabilization/diffusion. The smell of the neroli is easily covered by your regular cologne or by Ammo. Be sure to read through the “sticky” threads. here are three good ones to start. [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/read-me-first-helpful-topics-on-how-to-get-around/3106](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/read-me-first-helpful-topics-on-how-to-get-around/3106) > [@The Snook's big book o' pheros for rookies](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-snooks-big-book-o-pheros-for-rookies/5879): > > So many pheros, so many newbs asking the same questions… I’ll break this down in a few different ways. Section one is for high school. two is for work. three is for clubbing. four is miscellany. NOTE: I will only be covering the pre-mixed products on this page, since it is being written for beginners. If you’re new to pheromones, please leave the TA, P, and MX series for later, once you’re a believer that -mones can do all I say they can below. Section one High School Firstly, if you’re unde… > [@What pheromones can and can't do: realistic expectations for newcomers](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-do-and-what-they-cant-updated/9558): > > A lot of people come in to the forum and read all the wonderful stories about peoples experiences with [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/). New people end up trying them out with high expectations and usually as they get to know the product those expectations are met to some extent and sometimes not because there expectations were to high But I think its best for people to have a realistic view on what exactly they can and can not do. I get a lot of PM’s from people asking me why "they couldn’t get there cheati… Have Fun!! --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shy-newbie-in-the-uk-ammo-or-instant-shine-to-start/9641)._