# Sick to stomach **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 15, 2007, 1:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sick-to-stomach/2044 "2007-02-15T01:46:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 1:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sick-to-stomach/2044/1 "2007-02-15T01:46:03Z")
I’ve noticed at night before I go to bed that lately I’ve been getting tummy aches. It’s only now that I’ve been applying 2 doses of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) at 6 hour intervalls. Anyone experience this, or maybe I just got a tummy ache. It seems odd though to only happen when I double dose. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 2:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sick-to-stomach/2044/2 "2007-02-15T02:19:45Z")
Pheromones have absolutely nothing to do with your gut ache. Watch your diet. A light dinner not more than 4 hours before bedtime is best. Stick to simple, fresh and pure foods such as organic veggies. Avoid high fat and sugar and cut back on red meats and dariy products (if you must eat them). You are what you eat… ---
**Author:** ![bryand](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bryand/32/1474_2.png) [@bryand](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bryand)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 2:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sick-to-stomach/2044/3 "2007-02-15T02:41:41Z")
Stop drinking the pheros and spray them on like everyone else. 😮 ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 3:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sick-to-stomach/2044/4 "2007-02-15T03:02:00Z")
Many people have reported hyper activity in the sence of smell when wearing pheromones, which would match very well with what i’m posting here. Follow the link for a full explanation. The information is at the end of the first section through the rest of the document. > [@](#): > > So what is this about? Is it all in Elli’s head? Why are smells so intense for some women during pregnancy? Well the answer that Tim and Elli are seeking is this: it IS all in Elli’s head. Actually, it is in the increased sensitivity she has to smells is a result of her olfactory and pheromone receptors becoming hyperactive during pregnancy. Her what? In between these parts it explains DHEA’s role in pheromone production, as well as hormones. > [@](#): > > Pregnancy, a wild hormone heyday for women, activates the pheromone receptors making them hyper sensitive. This is more in some women than others. Simultaneously, the olfactory receptors also become sensitive during pregnancy. These sensitivities are nature’s way of enabling our ancestral moms to detect good and spoiled food, good and bad people to be with, and to smell out a bargain in a neighboring village. It is worth remembering that our primordial development history there were far less smells to contend with: no perfumes, car fresheners, Outback steakhouses blowing free smells to the neighborhood, or frosted crescent roll kiosks overwhelming grandma’s nose. > > The downside to this new smell skill is that many [pregnant women’s](http://www.pregnancy.org/article.php?sid=2746#) systems respond by feeling nauseous, while those that aren’t pregnant don’t detect any smell at all. This biology is so powerful that pregnant women can even trigger overpowering smells with just their imagination. That is, they can imagine a particular odor, make it quite real to the brain, and become sick over it! [Pregnancy.org \> Experts \> Ask Dr. Bob \> Smells, Pregnancy, Nausea and Partners](http://www.pregnancy.org/article.php?sid=2746) Congratulations Steveo! Your pregnant! lol ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 3:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sick-to-stomach/2044/5 "2007-02-15T03:19:40Z")
Take a break, and let your olfactory system rest up and settle down. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 3:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sick-to-stomach/2044/6 "2007-02-15T03:55:55Z")
Damn until I read your second pot I thought I might have gotten myself pregnant. It’s a fascinating article that maybe could lead to additional studies on receptors of both male and female. I had a deffinate tummy ache and tonight I actually showered again and it was instantanious that the ache went away. Strange to think that it could affect me that way. I will have to watch this more closely. I’d be interested to know if anyone experiences anything along these lines such as neusea, flu-like, illness in general that can be correlated to pheromone usage. I’ve also read somewhere, can’t quote the source, some fathers to be sometimes experience symptoms associated with pregnancy such as morning disease. Is it possible these might be associated with pheromones the pregnant woman is producing? I know that I always wrap my willy when he’s going fishing for love, so I guess I should be OK. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 3:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sick-to-stomach/2044/7 "2007-02-15T03:56:21Z")
> [@bryand](#): > > Stop drinking the pheros and spray them on like everyone else. 😮 They’re delicious with Rum! ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 4:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sick-to-stomach/2044/8 "2007-02-15T04:00:58Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Pheromones have absolutely nothing to do with your gut ache. Watch your diet. A light dinner not more than 4 hours before bedtime is best. Stick to simple, fresh and pure foods such as organic veggies. Avoid high fat and sugar and cut back on red meats and dariy products (if you must eat them). You are what you eat… Come on. You are pulling at strings and are far from being correct. Most everything I eat is organic. I eat free range grass fed beef, free range poultry, fresh game, the only dairy I eat are brown eggs, organic cheese and I eat a light meal 4 to 6 times a day. This is how I lost over 100 lbs. ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 4:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sick-to-stomach/2044/9 "2007-02-15T04:09:21Z")
Morning sickness for men is theorized to be a result of stress, empathy, and pheromones produced by the mom to be. > [@](#): > > **Drastic changes** > New Scientist reports that they recruited 34 couples from an antenatal class and took blood samples at different times during and after the pregnancies. > > [http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/590000/images/\_592025\_pregnant\_man150.jpg](http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/590000/images/_592025_pregnant_man150.jpg) > > Pregnant man: A 1970s Health Education Council advertisement > > The researchers found that in fathers, levels of cortisol, prolactin and testosterone changed significantly during their partners’ pregnancies. > “The differences for mums were much more drastic, but the patterns were similar,” says Dr Storey. > Testosterone dropped by 33% just after the baby’s birth, and the lower levels of testosterone were associated with men becoming more parental, the researchers found. Dr Storey speculates that a combination of behaviour and pheromones from a pregnant woman somehow prompts the father to prepare for the birth of his child: “There’s something about the couple being together that sets the stage.” [BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Male pregnancy rollercoaster](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/592025.stm) ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 4:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sick-to-stomach/2044/10 "2007-02-15T04:14:23Z")
Yes Toil, understand that and I’m sorry I didn’t clarify my thought more clearly. What I meant is some fathers-to-be actually reported becoming ill with morning sickness before they were aware of the reported pregnancy. I really wish I could remember where it was writen, I think maybe the New England Journal of Medicine, but I could be wrong, so without the source I couldn’t stake any rep on it. Perhaps if Ail stops by she might have further knowledge. That is if she’s still even talking to me. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 4:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sick-to-stomach/2044/11 "2007-02-15T04:14:24Z")
> [@](#): > > Come on. You are pulling at strings and are far from being correct. Most everything I eat is organic. How the hell would I know you weren’t a burger addict? You weren’t exactly forthcoming in your OP. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out your gut problems aren’t from the pheromones (unless you’re ingesting them). Nevertheless, even organic food can be less than fresh, especially during winter months. I’ve suffered belly aches from supposedly organic food. ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 4:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sick-to-stomach/2044/12 "2007-02-15T04:19:37Z")
Maybe it was all creative license, but if you drink as much as you _say_ you do, your liver could be in some distress and that could give you a tummy ache, too. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 4:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sick-to-stomach/2044/13 "2007-02-15T04:26:23Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > How the hell would I know you weren’t a burger addict? You weren’t exactly forthcoming in your OP. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out your gut problems aren’t from the pheromones (unless you’re ingesting them). > > Nevertheless, even organic food can be less than fresh, especially during winter months. I’ve suffered belly aches from supposedly organic food. Well a bit snippy are we 😛 In pretty much every one of my posts I’ve reported I’m into health foods, yet I’m sorry I didn’t say it again in this thread earlier. If I thought it was associated with bad food or drink I wouldn’t have posted it here. I did because I am almost certain it is associated with the pheromones. I’m sorry if you feel it necessary to take offense at my reply, but I was simply pointing out facts. You say pheromones have absolutely nothing to do with my tummy ache but not having the facts about what I eat that is a rather bold statement to make. I believe they do and Toil’s research might actually point to a more plausible hypothesis. So unless you can say it while presenting some type of evidence or research while having “all” the facts how can you make such a unfounded statement? ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 4:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sick-to-stomach/2044/14 "2007-02-15T04:33:17Z")
hey guys, i hardly EVER get sick and i was sick to my tummy 3 days in a row… then my son came down with the flu, but for whatever reason i never got it. just nausious. ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 4:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sick-to-stomach/2044/15 "2007-02-15T04:35:04Z")
I ment no disrespect 🙂 I’m single, it’s V-day, and i’m bored.😃 Chatting on pherotalk is the highlight of my evening. (sad eh? lol) On a side note: I found that frozen peas taste better frozen than cooked/thawed, and canned peas taste better cold. They are sweeter and taste more like a fruit than a vegitable. Try it! ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 4:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sick-to-stomach/2044/16 "2007-02-15T04:39:03Z")
> [@Carrie](#): > > Maybe it was all creative license, but if you drink as much as you _say_ you do, your liver could be in some distress and that could give you a tummy ache, too. I do drink and partake in some merriment, but I also usually forgo alcohol for long periods. Sometime’s I’ll go many months without so much as a drop. When I drink and boast that it was a half gallon, just to clarify that’s in man size, which probably would mean about 1/2 pint. What can I say but I’m a cheap drunk. Oh and in man size I have a 15 inch pecker 😃 The strange fact is that my tummy ache has only occurred on days when I’ve applied a double dose throughout the day and I can really smell the pheromones. Even if they are covered under long sleeves. It’s almost as if Toil suggested in his post, that I get a very keen smell sense that they are present. Sometimes this is also after I have lightly washed the area and removed surface smell, or so I thought. Within a short (1 hour tops) time I can really smell them strongly as if I just applied them. Now that I think about it I remember posting about the pheromones that I bought off eBay. I couldn’t remember clearly what I had done with those, but I stopped wearing them as they had a similar effect. I also don’t wear petulia (Spelling?) oil anymore as I get sick from that too. It’s my favorite scent, but I cannot wear it. I’ll continue to monitor this and again, if anyone has experienced anything like this I’d be interested to know. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 4:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sick-to-stomach/2044/17 "2007-02-15T04:40:27Z")
> [@toilofday](#): > > I ment no disrespect 🙂 I’m single, it’s V-day, and i’m bored.😃 Chatting on pherotalk is the highlight of my evening. (sad eh? lol) > > On a side note: I found that frozen peas taste better frozen than cooked/thawed, and canned peas taste better cold. They are sweeter and taste more like a fruit than a vegitable. Try it! I respect everything you said and absolutely no disrespect was taken 😕 ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 4:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sick-to-stomach/2044/18 "2007-02-15T04:43:18Z")
I didn’t think you did. I just thought i’d cover my bases. We can’t see body language or hear tone, so missunderstandings are bound to happen. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 4:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sick-to-stomach/2044/19 "2007-02-15T04:44:48Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > hey guys, i hardly EVER get sick and i was sick to my tummy 3 days in a row… > then my son came down with the flu, but for whatever reason i never got it. just nausious. Well we missed you Lor and I for one am glad you are back. Can you change that picture of you? You’re so beautiful and me being the guy that I am become easily distracted by it. 😉 Nah don’t change anything 😛 ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 4:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sick-to-stomach/2044/20 "2007-02-15T04:49:48Z")
I hate re-writing posts when the browser jumps somewhere and loses what I’ve typed. ☹ But this one feels like it’s worthwhile doing over. All right – forgetting about overdose, which is when you apply too much pheros for OTHERS to handle, what about a “challenge level” of pheros: you apply x amount of some phero, and you are okay, although it is a challenge “living up to the pherosignature”. Perhaps if you apply more than x amount, beyond the appropriate “challenge level”, you get into a place where you have real difficulty being congruent with the pherosignature. In other words, you might have a performance expectation, and yet there is also a “congruency gap.” So … such a gap would be a stressor. You could surface your stress with an ache here and a discomfort there, physically. Saying “psychosomatic” can be dismissive or stigmatizing, so I’ll say “somatopsychic” instead. Or, we can just let it go that such a response is native to “sort-of intelligent mammals.” Steveo, you’ve said you lost a lot of weight, so eating and food has perhaps been a platform/stage for working out (non-verbal) issues, in which case a stomach ache might be a natural for you – whereas someone else might have a headache, or their eyes get tired or watery, another person might sneeze, etc. etc. Although I can’t be sure, it does seem that I’ve gotten diarrhea a couple of times as a result of “nervous stomach” from an excess of pheros. More often, I’ve experienced some notable perceptual distortions, visual and auditory. I say: maybe your stomach ache is a coincidence, maybe not. The “goes away with shower” part is particularly interesting to me. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sick-to-stomach/2044.md?page=2)