# Similar product to P83-crush effect

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/similar-product-to-p83-crush-effect/52696>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [October 6, 2011, 12:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/similar-product-to-p83-crush-effect/52696 "2011-10-06T12:12:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![mayro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@mayro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mayro)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 12:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/similar-product-to-p83-crush-effect/52696/1 "2011-10-06T12:12:17Z")

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Hi anyone know any similar product as [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) which gives crush effect, work great on Asians and is available at AD?

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**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 1:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/similar-product-to-p83-crush-effect/52696/2 "2011-10-06T13:07:41Z")

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The whole time iv used p83 I have never seen this crush effect everyone keeps going on about p86 I see it but not p83 ☹

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**Author:** ![mayro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@mayro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mayro)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 1:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/similar-product-to-p83-crush-effect/52696/3 "2011-10-06T13:10:55Z")

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> [@THE\_GHOST](#):
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> The whole time iv used p83 I have never seen this crush effect everyone keeps going on about p86 I see it but not p83 ☹

Really? I read some where in forum that it works great on Asian girls and gives crush effect.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 1:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/similar-product-to-p83-crush-effect/52696/4 "2011-10-06T13:11:04Z")

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Whilst [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) disinhibits, I would say that I’ve had better crush effects from P74/none (particularly NPA), esp when used with A314/IH.

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**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 2:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/similar-product-to-p83-crush-effect/52696/5 "2011-10-06T14:31:46Z")

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I have only seen the reported crush effect from [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) recently. Don’t ever recall reading about that before and no it has not been in my experience that it gives a crush effect.

Now a combo like a314 + IH + ammo + IS…yes I’ve had this build up a nice crush effect.  
A1 that too…but P83, made people act out, verbally and even sexually, but no crush type effect…I did to some extensive solo testing with this molecule last year its in my journal.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 2:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/similar-product-to-p83-crush-effect/52696/6 "2011-10-06T14:37:51Z")

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I’m wondering if people are confusing [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/)’s disinhibition/space-reducing properties with crushing?

Again, especially prominent with the likes of TAA, IS or nols.