# Skeptic Again...Advise?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptic-again-advise/19762>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [September 17, 2008, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptic-again-advise/19762 "2008-09-17T19:32:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Realitydisruption](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Realitydisruption](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Realitydisruption)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptic-again-advise/19762/1 "2008-09-17T19:32:30Z")

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There was a time when I didn’t believe in the power of pheromones, but that all changed when I read so many accounts about all the good they’d done for people.

Enter a week ago, when I purchased a bottle of [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), a bottle of Instant Jerk, and an order that arrived with free samples of Turn up the Heat and Instant Shine.

I tried a combo first which had no effects. The following day, 1 spray of Instant Gentleman, no effect. The next day 2 sprays of Instant Jerk, no effect. Today, 2 sprays of Turn up the Heat with no effect. Each time I used my own cologne to cover the scent. I’ve had a few girls check me out but that happens pheromones or no pheromones. Meanwhile, each day, I’ve been on crowded buses, crowded subways, in stores, restaraunts, and in small quarters with female friends and coworkers. I have had nothing in the way of hits that is out of the ordinary in any way.

At this point, I am ready to give up and just stop believing that these things work at all. However, I am still convinced by all the positive results I see posted on these boards. What am I doing wrong?

Thanks in advance.

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**Author:** ![Realitydisruption](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Realitydisruption](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Realitydisruption)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 8:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptic-again-advise/19762/2 "2008-09-17T20:11:09Z")

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The only noticable effects that the mones have had so far are hte terrible headaches they have caused.

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**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 8:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptic-again-advise/19762/3 "2008-09-17T20:51:17Z")

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Dude, I’m sorry to hear that. Particularly with the IJ which is meant to have dramatic effects. I didn’t have any hits from my first try of TUTH, maybe one but I’m not really so sure. But I felt the effects on myself - I didn’t get any headaches or anything, I have to say. Maybe a week later, I went to a party and tried my first combo 2:3:4 TUTH:IG:IO - I didn’t get any sort of dramatic hits… oh wait a minute, I got a possible DIHL actually. But the basic level of social functioning was lifted for me, in a way that is not easy to describe in words. Subsequently, I’ve had a couple of missions getting full-blown DIHLs and IOIs, and also blow-outs where nothing happens. I am still a noob myself.

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**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 8:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptic-again-advise/19762/4 "2008-09-17T20:51:24Z")

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Like exercise, dieting, or studying, pheromone usage benefits from consistency. Wear one product in increasing dosages for a week.

So don’t do combos, or rotate the product. If you’re going to try [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/), stick with it for a week. It’s strange how it takes a moment to learn the pheromone vibe, then takes a little longer still, to be able to focus on that energy specifically enough to act on it.

And the headaches may stem from overloading your brain. For some people, spraying large amounts can make them tired, etc…as long as you aren’t dying I guess. 😛

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**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 8:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptic-again-advise/19762/5 "2008-09-17T20:52:10Z")

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Hey again Reality, that sounds kinda twilight zonish doesn’t it. LOL

Let me say right up front everybody here wants you to have as much fun with [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) as the rest of us do. We get a little frustrated when guys (or gals) don’t get results so if any of this sounds like criticism just know that it isn’t…many of us have been right where you are now.

I’m going to point you in the direction of some threads that people have worked hard to write that are there to help newbies. Please take some time and read them if you haven’t already done so.

[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/read-me-first-helpful-topics-on-how-to-get-around/3106](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/read-me-first-helpful-topics-on-how-to-get-around/3106)

> [@The Snook's big book o' pheros for rookies](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-snooks-big-book-o-pheros-for-rookies/5879):
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> So many pheros, so many newbs asking the same questions… I’ll break this down in a few different ways. Section one is for high school. two is for work. three is for clubbing. four is miscellany. NOTE: I will only be covering the pre-mixed products on this page, since it is being written for beginners. If you’re new to pheromones, please leave the TA, P, and MX series for later, once you’re a believer that -mones can do all I say they can below. Section one High School Firstly, if you’re unde…

> [@Basic Noob Phero Bootcamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159):
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> Ok. Feel free to correct any errors I may have made. This took forever to write, so I hope you like it. Chapter 1 Alpha Androstenone: In the forum this is commonly referred to as –none or none. It is a hormone produced in men and women’s sweat. (significantly less if women) “Androstenone is the first mammalian pheromone to be identified.” ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androstenone](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androstenone)) Androstenone has the ability to cause arousal in women during their ovulation. It also has the ability cause irr…

> [@What pheromones can and can't do: realistic expectations for newcomers](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-do-and-what-they-cant-updated/9558):
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> A lot of people come in to the forum and read all the wonderful stories about peoples experiences with [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/). New people end up trying them out with high expectations and usually as they get to know the product those expectations are met to some extent and sometimes not because there expectations were to high But I think its best for people to have a realistic view on what exactly they can and can not do. I get a lot of PM’s from people asking me why "they couldn’t get there cheati…

> [@Mens Pheromone Guide revised 6/15](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mens-pheromone-guide-revised-6-15/12168):
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> Revised for 2010/11 Common question thread Ok I had to put the guide in this section of the forum because the men’s have way to many stickies now and I didn’t want to add another there. So anyways I got quite a few requests to do a men’s guide and I am flattered but want you to all know upfront that without all the wonderful postings on pheromones by the experienced men I would never been able to write this. Men’s Pheromone guide I have gotten a few requests for a men’s Pheromone guide an…

> [@How do I know if I am getting hits !!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-know-if-i-am-getting-hits/14192):
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> Its a question we all ask at some point… The very first thing to do when you begin to think about purchasing pheromones is to start observing people before you use them. Ask yourself what are peoples normal general reaction to you and others around you. Are they open and friendly ? Are they intimidated ? Do they acknowledge your presence ? Do strangers generally talk to you ? Are people in a great mood when hanging around you ? Do people treat you with respect ? Are guy/girls open to you…

The men’s guide is full of dozens of other links.

Now put everything up except for the IG. Tommorrow for work put on 2 sprays. Be yourself, flirty, jerkish, whatever. Wear for 3 work days straight. Don’t add anything. Then DON"T wear pheromones for 2 days. If you don’t see anything different then cycle through with 4 sprays for 3 days and nothing for 2. If still nothing cycle through the steps with Ishine. You might also try Snooks OD experiment of going to a mall foodcourt and taking your IJ with you…you’ll read about how to do it in his post I listed above.

You might also tell us what you are expecting a “hit” to look like so we can help with your expectations.

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**Author:** ![ibelledthecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a698b9/32.png) [@ibelledthecat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ibelledthecat)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 9:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptic-again-advise/19762/6 "2008-09-17T21:07:27Z")

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IMO, IJ works only when you are up and close with a person. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is the best product for creating attraction from a distance.  
And, I would suggest starting out with 1 spray of IJ to the neck. 2 sprays would be overdoing it for most people.

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**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 9:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptic-again-advise/19762/7 "2008-09-17T21:30:17Z")

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> [@Phya](#):
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> Like exercise, dieting, or studying, pheromone usage benefits from consistency. Wear one product in increasing dosages for a week.

There is a similar thing I have found recently. I have been mixing it up a fair bit with the combos myself (with A314 as constant), I have to admit, but I have got what I like to call “momentum” at the minute. So I feel pretty pleased about getting hits, which leads to more hits. A process that feels like magic, but is probably modulated by all sorts of things such as confidence boosting, which makes for a positive feedback loop. I have always been fairly confident anyway. And once I get hits from a phero or combo I know what to expect, and somehow can get more of it; I must be giving out very subtle nonverbal signals too, it’s the only thing I can think of.
