# Skeptic in New Zealand: which pheromone to try first, maybe Instant Shine? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 23, 2008, 10:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptic-in-new-zealand-which-pheromone-to-try-first-maybe-instant-shine/16108 "2008-07-23T10:15:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![xplonz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/94ad74/32.png) [@xplonz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xplonz)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 10:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptic-in-new-zealand-which-pheromone-to-try-first-maybe-instant-shine/16108/1 "2008-07-23T10:15:54Z")
So im still a bit of a skeptic about all this and I live in New Zealand and shipping is horrendous but Ive decided to bite the bullet and buy some 😃 Any reccomendations for someone such as myself? Mainly just a skeptic wanting to see if there are actually any effects and if there are, start using the rest of them and experimenting as you lads do Im thinking [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) at the moment? Any direction would be great thanks guys ---
**Author:** ![Adam\_Alpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Adam\_Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Adam_Alpha)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 11:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptic-in-new-zealand-which-pheromone-to-try-first-maybe-instant-shine/16108/2 "2008-07-23T11:32:58Z")
I too was a sceptic, xplonz…but no longer! What are you hoping to achieve with the help of pheros…getting girls, respect at work, etc. This would help to advise you. Adam ---
**Author:** ![magicj76](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/magicj76/32/1858_2.png) [@magicj76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/magicj76)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 1:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptic-in-new-zealand-which-pheromone-to-try-first-maybe-instant-shine/16108/3 "2008-07-23T13:01:47Z")
I’d advise you to start with the $15 coupon and then save money and place a BIG order, to save money from shipping and because after a while you’ll use pheros more and more often and it consumes very quickly ! If you want to be definitely convinced, ask for A314 EO version to be back in stock ! 🙂 Or start with TUTH ! ---
**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 1:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptic-in-new-zealand-which-pheromone-to-try-first-maybe-instant-shine/16108/4 "2008-07-23T13:51:00Z")
[Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) is a definite yes for any skeptic - I found its effects fairly easy to observe. A314 is perhaps a little subtle, it could easily be missed… TUTH is definitetly one that will allow you to see results. AMMO seems to have pretty easily noticeable results as well. ---
**Author:** ![magicj76](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/magicj76/32/1858_2.png) [@magicj76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/magicj76)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 2:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptic-in-new-zealand-which-pheromone-to-try-first-maybe-instant-shine/16108/5 "2008-07-23T14:27:08Z")
> [@Wrlprchnx](#): > > Instant Shine is a definite yes for any skeptic - I found its effects fairly easy to observe. A314 is perhaps a little subtle, it could easily be missed… Turn Up The Heat is definitetly one that will allow you to see results. AMMO seems to have pretty easily noticeable results as well. I was citing A314 to avoid the EO version to be forgotten, cos the results were more visible with EO version than with [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/) version. More visible and (more) positive. If you start as a skeptic, I would’nt advise IS as it’s easy to say that spraying it on yourself automatically makes you smile and more… on a psychological side. So… TUTH ---
**Author:** ![wiseowlk12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d2c977/32.png) [@wiseowlk12](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wiseowlk12)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 3:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptic-in-new-zealand-which-pheromone-to-try-first-maybe-instant-shine/16108/6 "2008-07-23T15:08:03Z")
I would say IS but it really doesn’t do anything for me (self-effects)…unless in high doses and it doesn’t last that long either…I would say go with ammo also since it can be used in more occasions than [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/).