# Skeptic seeks conversion

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptic-seeks-conversion/59219>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [June 5, 2013, 4:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptic-seeks-conversion/59219 "2013-06-05T04:09:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![MagicGlen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eada6e/32.png) [@MagicGlen](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MagicGlen)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 4:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptic-seeks-conversion/59219/1 "2013-06-05T04:09:40Z")

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Found this site whole researching [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) I was interested and tried some in the 1980’s. I have used andron, Gail and contact 18. I understand they may not have been human pheromones? I am curious if i ever tried human pheromones. At the time i did not know about different types of pheromone and thought it was all andronestone. Pre internet days meant research was not as easy

I would like to know if they actually work. That is my main interest and would like to see if there is a change in the way people relate to me.It would have to be a continous change not explained by co incidence and or post hoc reasoning.

I think a lot of results is because people are looking for it.Lots of reports are inconclusive.. she smiled at me.. seemed to be looking at me.. Example i noticed some very good looking girls looking at me today. had I pheromones i would maybe have credited them.

I also think there is a placebo effect where the wearer has confidence and so acts differently and so get differnt results. i would like to be proven wrong though and if a gc will cover a product i will try it. I am in europe so what is shipping?

I want a product that will makle women respond sexually as there will be no confusing it with ‘friends’ or someone being just friendly

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**Author:** ![Marihino](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marihino/32/1286_2.png) [@Marihino](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marihino)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 4:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptic-seeks-conversion/59219/2 "2013-06-05T04:19:06Z")

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Hi Glen,

we’ve all been skeptical at first 😉

I’d suggest, try to use a lot, and I mean A LOT of something that promotes communication, like [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/). Androstenone- and androsterone- based products can be easily overdosed so there is a fine line between seemingly very subtle (but powerful when it comes to establishing interpersonal relations) results and overdose which gets you ghosted, ignored and avoided for being too intimidating or too incongruent and confusing in your signals.

A large quantity of IO, maybe with something else like Instant Shine, P83, P74, IH etc - that should convince you. Just wear some and observe what happens 😉 Ok, angels will not fall from the sky, bet there will be a difference in the way people react to you, a very obvious difference if you’re a keen observer.

What are your reasons for looking up pheromones anyway? If you tell us more about yourself, we can give you better recommendations 🙂

Welcome to the Pheromone Talk, have fun 🙂

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**Author:** ![ryanmercer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ryanmercer/32/1569_2.png) [@ryanmercer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ryanmercer)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 6:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptic-seeks-conversion/59219/3 "2013-06-05T06:42:08Z")

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Instant Openess or [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) with Ammo. Just get some togo bottles if you don’t want to risk a lot of money… although I suggest just getting normal bottles so you can do more testing to make up your mind either way. Welcome to the forum!

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**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 10:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptic-seeks-conversion/59219/4 "2013-06-05T10:32:27Z")

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Hello, Glen! Welcome!

If you tell us what your age is, that can help us narrow down a product that would work well for you. Can you tell us more about your personality? Are you bold and outgoing or more reserved? How do you wish to be perceived? Mature? Youthful? Gentlemanly? Bad-boy?

Thanks for posting, I hope we can help!

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**Author:** ![MagicGlen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eada6e/32.png) [@MagicGlen](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MagicGlen)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2013, 12:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptic-seeks-conversion/59219/5 "2013-06-07T12:24:30Z")

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do i get gc?

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**Author:** ![ryanmercer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ryanmercer/32/1569_2.png) [@ryanmercer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ryanmercer)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2013, 1:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptic-seeks-conversion/59219/6 "2013-06-07T13:02:22Z")

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It isn’t automatic, it can take a few days. be patient.

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**Author:** ![Wyatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Wyatt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wyatt)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2013, 6:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptic-seeks-conversion/59219/7 "2013-06-08T06:13:57Z")

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The GC will come for sure. The lady doing them is behind schedule and working hard I gather.

As for do they work. Spray on about two sprays of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and walk into a room and notice how people are behaving. Then watch and notice a few minutes later there is more chatter, more happiness and more energy…

Then leave the room.

Come back 10 minutes later and the chatter will have died down and just stand there and watch stuff pick up. (I love doing that with Instant Shine)

Ammo do the same thing, but try to find a room full of women. Wander around say hi, whatever, then leave, just notice how they are acting and also that they vaguely know you exist.

Go some place private and spray on two sprays of ammo then head back and watch the reactions. Keep in mind some women won’t be affected at all, but for others you’ll practically feel like you’re directly responsible for them pulling out their hair.

The other pheros work about as strong, but you have to learn them and what to look for. Some pheros are for many a user are also for the self effects. Careful as some can be good and some bad.

Anyways, good luck in your experimenting. This can quickly become an expensive habit, but any that have used them for awhile know they work.

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**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 1:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptic-seeks-conversion/59219/8 "2013-06-20T13:40:36Z")

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Welcome MagicGlen,

This is a super informal and not so tailored response if you will.

I would luuuuuuuv to spend more time assisting you especially since you are a newbie.

We are short staffed and these gift certificates are done manually.

It takes a great deal and I am back logged.

I am hoping that when I catch up on my work, I can start answering these intro threads the way I use to

In fact, I am hoping that soon, someone more experienced than me can come in so I get to do what I am great at, customer service.

Thank you for giving pheromones a chance.

Your gc was issued!
