# Skeptical first time user **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [November 14, 2007, 8:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptical-first-time-user/6648 "2007-11-14T20:11:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Shyner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@Shyner](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Shyner)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 8:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptical-first-time-user/6648/1 "2007-11-14T20:11:48Z")
Hello, i’m a 27 year old male from Maryland. I came across this forum when I decided to check up on Pherlure _after_ I had already made a purchase. Pherlure did not work out the way it was described, so I decided to give pheromones another shot by ordering [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and A314 from [smartmones.com](http://smartmones.com). A little info about me: I’m an Asian-american cursed with good looks 😉 j/k! In all seriousness though, I’m not lacking in the physical appearance…however, I do have issues with confidence and I’m _really_ timid around attractive women. That, and I haven’t been in a relationship in over 6 years. I’m hoping that pheromones will give me an edge but i’m pessimistic. I want to disprove my theory in thinking that pheromones are nothing but a placebo but so far I’ve used generous amounts of Instant Shine for 2 days and I haven’t noticed a bit of a difference. I’m going to try a combination of Shine and A314 to see what happens. Does anyone have any comments or suggestions? I want to try other products but i’m reluctant, mainly because of the price. I hope this isn’t a scam… ---
**Author:** ![HABIB001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/habib001/32/2159_2.png) [@HABIB001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HABIB001)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 9:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptical-first-time-user/6648/2 "2007-11-14T21:19:21Z")
Hi Shyner and welcome You have made your first purchase, you could combine Instant shine and A314 with Instant Openess and Instant honesty. These are good combinations to use to get an extra boost. Good luck and welcome. ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 1:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptical-first-time-user/6648/3 "2007-11-15T01:11:26Z")
It took me a couple of months of daily use to be convinced pheros were doing very much… so be patient and persevere. Read some of the old posts by MHarris, Steveo, Visionary and tacitus (amongst others) to get an idea about how to get the most out of them. You’ll get much more satisfaction if you get out there and talk to people without being focused on immediate reactions to your mones. Read some of the personal social and emotional growth aka pua literature. ‘bristol lair’ and [Fast Seduction 101: Art of Pick-up and Seduction](http://www.fastseduction.com) archives are a good place to start… Pheros are one weapon in your armory, but you shouldn’t neglect the other components - relaxation, body awareness/posture, voice/tonality, chakra balancing, balancing your life. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 2:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptical-first-time-user/6648/4 "2007-11-15T02:02:10Z")
Hello Shyner Welcome to the forum 🙂 You will find these products a whole lot different then Pherlure. Here the products work as long as you are willing to learn how to use them correctly. This is not hard to do with all of the info and help you will get here in the forum. A314 is the Alpha respect mone. Its a good product to start with and every phero minded guy should have a bottle in there mone arsenal so you made a good pick. I do however think that [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) which is more sexual then A314 would be a good pick for you as well. Keep in mind that with the spray products you can get TO-GO bottles which have around 40 sprays so you can test them out before you spend money on a big bottle. With your GC that Steveo will send you on his next round and the points in the site from your last order you should be able to get a to-go free. Just pay for shipping. So with those 3 you will have a good start and later down the road when you have that “Holy crap this works” moment you may want to think about IO and IH 😉 We look forward to your participation Tisha ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 2:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptical-first-time-user/6648/5 "2007-11-15T02:22:21Z")
Hello Shyner. Here is a corny one-liner that you might use, or not: _When you play shortstop, you have to think “catch the ball” before you think “throw to the base”._ [Pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) are just tools. Some people, perhaps some of the people you have been hanging with, keep an extremely tight control over their reactions. Put your skepticism to work in BOTH directions at once. Just because you don’t see reactions .. hits .. right now does not mean that there is no reaction and that pheros don’t work. It could also mean that people have suppressed their visible response. Perhaps those who suppress their responses are not perfect in defending from the pheros action on their system. They might be almost perfect on ‘defense’, in which case the signs might be subtle. Or. A person may be very subtle in letting a response happen that seems to trickle through … in which case you may be in the presence of a great hetaera. And you can be equal in your subtlety! Or not. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 1:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptical-first-time-user/6648/6 "2007-11-16T01:43:14Z")
Great responses from everyone. I’m impressed with the quality of the answers you have received. It’s just so true that many users are expecting more from pheromones, but fail to realize, as eloquently put by PheroQuirk, that they are merely tools. A hammer might lay and collect dust in my garage, or cause me to curse and scream as I hop around after banging my thumb. That same hammer in the hands of a skilled craftsman is used to create the mansion down the street. It all depends on how you use the hammer. Good news for me though is that even though I might occasionally hit a thumb or two, in time I can learn to use my hammer and with practice get better and better. I might never be Bob Villa, but with practice and time I will still be able to build a house. Pheromones work the same way as the hammer. To welcome you to the forum and help with your second purchase I am issuing a gift certificate tonight. Welcome. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2007, 10:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/skeptical-first-time-user/6648/7 "2007-11-17T22:54:12Z")
SteveO, I didn’t know you could be so eloquent. Here I was expecting your welcome post to contain references to bloodsucking radioactive bunnies, or aliens of some sort. Very well put! Maybe we can find you a training hammer though, you know one made of styrophome or something 🙂