# @!$%^-slap pheromones **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 23, 2007, 3:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/slap-pheromones/7701 "2007-12-23T03:28:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2007, 3:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/slap-pheromones/7701/1 "2007-12-23T03:28:04Z")
In the spirit of brutal mixes, what are your fierce ones, the ones that you keep in the vault so nobody accidentally gets hurt. Tater offers —Heavy A314 (5 drops) applied to neck + heavy MX102:heavy IFM:heavy EST:heavy IH:IS 2x at 4:3:200mcg:16:2 with 80% Le Male. Shopping at the mall. 25-40 year old women MUST get in my face. Guys trash-talk their girlfriends right in front of their faces just to get my approval. Attention Jasmin/SteveO! Tater got his first unsolicited hit with zero direct interaction. Pale brunette with brown eyes and petite figure overhears me explaining something to two other women shoppers who were trying to flirt. I hadnt even noticed her because the two women who were chatting me up had my attention. She palms me her number, big smile, gives the call-me hand signal and walks off. I hate to admit this, but sometimes the hits are so harsh i dont know how to handle them or dont figure it out until its too late. ---
**Author:** ![Ryan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ryan/32/1528_2.png) [@Ryan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ryan)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2007, 3:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/slap-pheromones/7701/2 "2007-12-23T03:34:28Z")
Thanks Tater, your giving me something to look forward to when I get this basic stuff down pat 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2007, 3:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/slap-pheromones/7701/3 "2007-12-23T03:39:41Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > Tater offers > —Heavy A314 (5 drops) applied to neck + heavy MX102:heavy Instant Female Magic:heavy EST:heavy Instant Honesty:IS 2x at 4:3:200mcg:16:2 with 80% Le Male. Interesting mix. A bit hard for me to understand. You mixed some or all of these together in one bottle? You have 6 things written as ratios but only 5 numbers afterwards. And some of the ratioed numbers are unitless and some have units. how about a list? product 1 - dosage of product 1 with units attached to the numbers product 2 - dosage of product 2 with units attached to the numbers . . . Or alternatively for a mix product 1 - quantity of product 1 with units attached to the numbers product 2 - quantity of product 2 with units attached to the numbers . . . You could also give your recipe with unitless ratios as 4 parts this and 3 parts that, if you’re using standard known solutions and you do the same for all the ingredients. If you’re reporting on observed results from a mix it would also be helpful to know how much of it you put on. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2007, 4:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/slap-pheromones/7701/4 "2007-12-23T04:12:54Z")
> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#): > > Interesting mix. > > A bit hard for me to understand. > > You mixed some or all of these together in one bottle? You have 6 things written as ratios but only 5 numbers afterwards. And some of the ratioed numbers are unitless and some have units. > > how about a list? > product 1 - dosage of product 1 with units attached to the numbers > product 2 - dosage of product 2 with units attached to the numbers > . > . > . > > Or alternatively for a mix > > product 1 - quantity of product 1 with units attached to the numbers > product 2 - quantity of product 2 with units attached to the numbers > . > . > . > > You could also give your recipe with unitless ratios as 4 parts this and 3 parts that, if you’re using standard known solutions and you do the same for all the ingredients. > > If you’re reporting on observed results from a mix it would also be helpful to know how much of it you put on. I mentioned the A314 separately because its an oil. The others are alcohol-based and were composited separately. 1 spray = .15ml since there are 200 sprays in a 30ml bottle. The remainder was also worn to the neck, but as an alcohol. So, 4:3:200mcg:16:2 means… 4 MX102 = .15ml x4 MX102 = .60ml MX102 3 IFM = .45ml IFM 200mcg EST (volume depends on your bottles dosage/ml) 16 IH = 2.4ml IH 1x 2 IS 2x = .30ml IS 2x composite at 1 part pheros to 4 parts Le Male Dab on. Compositing with a fragrance is done by volume, so that can be thrown off if you have your EST at 5 mcg/ml or something insane. My EST is at 50mcg/.15ml sprayfor reference, so .60ml was used. Tater offers —Heavy A314 (5 drops) applied to neck + heavy MX102:heavy [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/):heavy EST:heavy Instant Honesty:IS 2x at 4:3:200mcg:16:2 with 80% Le Male. Shopping at the mall. 25-40 year old women MUST get in my face. Guys trash-talk their girlfriends right in front of their faces just to get my approval. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2007, 4:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/slap-pheromones/7701/5 "2007-12-23T04:41:13Z")
Tater, you’re just too much … Merry Christmas! 🙄 I don’t think it’s the mones … it’s the 9mm you carry on your side. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2007, 4:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/slap-pheromones/7701/6 "2007-12-23T04:43:09Z")
I understand now. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![NancysBoy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nancysboy/32/391_2.png) [@NancysBoy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NancysBoy)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2007, 6:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/slap-pheromones/7701/7 "2007-12-23T06:50:31Z")
😕 Okay, is this what you mean: **Composit these:** **4 sprays MX102 = .60 ml** **3 sprays Instant Female Magic = .45 ml** **200 mcg EST** **16 sprays Instant Honesty = 2.4 ml** **2 sprays Instant Shine (Double strength) = .30 ml IS 2x** **Composit at 1 part pheros to 4 parts (or 80%) Le Male** **Then, to use it:** **Dab ALL OF THE STUFF ABOVE on your neck. (!?!)** **Plus: A314 5 drops applied to neck, right?** Thats over 25 sprays. How long did it take to dry down? 😮 ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2007, 6:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/slap-pheromones/7701/8 "2007-12-23T06:57:54Z")
> [@NancysBoy](#): > > 😕 Okay, is this what you mean: > > **Composit these:** > > **4 sprays MX102 = .60 ml** > **3 sprays Instant Female Magic = .45 ml** > **200 mcg EST** > **16 sprays Instant Honesty = 2.4 ml** > **2 sprays Instant Shine (Double strength) = .30 ml IS 2x** > > **Composit at 1 part pheros to 4 parts (or 80%) Le Male** > > **Then, to use it:** > > **Dab ALL OF THE STUFF ABOVE on your neck. (!?!)** > **Plus: A314 5 drops applied to neck, right?** > > Thats over 25 sprays. How long did it take to dry down? 😮 NB, I’d bet he did what you did with your mix … all the product into one batch, let sit, and then … dab it on + the A314. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![NancysBoy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nancysboy/32/391_2.png) [@NancysBoy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NancysBoy)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2007, 7:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/slap-pheromones/7701/9 "2007-12-23T07:08:38Z")
I suspect so, too, 🙂 But Tater would be the one who knows. He’s holding out on us, again! 🆒 Why, oh lordy, why doesn’t TATER tell us how he REALLY does it? 😉🙄 How many dabs was he using, let’s have a poll! I’m going to guess .77 ml – oh, how many dabs are there in .77 ml? Naughty, naughty Tater, no biscuits.😛 ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2007, 7:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/slap-pheromones/7701/10 "2007-12-23T07:32:20Z")
> [@NancysBoy](#): > > Why, oh lordy, why doesn’t TATER tell us how he REALLY does it? 😉🙄 'Cause then he’d have to kill’ya! 😮 > [@NancysBoy](#): > > IHow many dabs was he using, let’s have a poll! I’m going to guess .77 ml – oh, how many dabs are there in .77 ml? 3-4 dabs max … from a used IS bottle! 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2007, 7:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/slap-pheromones/7701/11 "2007-12-23T07:45:26Z")
That is hysterical Tater! I kid you not, while you were writing this I swear by all things Pink and Squishy I was on the phone with Jasmin was talking to Jasmin about the hit I got without having to do a thing. If I wasn’t drunk and this wasn’t the 17th time I typed this I would tell you more… Tomorrow! ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2007, 9:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/slap-pheromones/7701/12 "2007-12-23T09:01:52Z")
> [@SteveO](#): > > That is hysterical Tater! I kid you not, while you were writing this I swear by all things Pink and Squishy I was on the phone with Jasmin was talking to Jasmin about the hit I got without having to do a thing. If I wasn’t drunk and this wasn’t the 17th time I typed this I would tell you more… Tomorrow! SteveO! Dont keep us in suspense. Get back here and type it one more time!!! ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2007, 9:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/slap-pheromones/7701/13 "2007-12-23T09:23:07Z")
> [@NancysBoy](#): > > 😕 Okay, is this what you mean: > > **Composit these:** > > **4 sprays MX102 = .60 ml** > **3 sprays Instant Female Magic = .45 ml** > **200 mcg EST** > **16 sprays Instant Honesty = 2.4 ml** > **2 sprays Instant Shine (Double strength) = .30 ml IS 2x** > > **Composit at 1 part pheros to 4 parts (or 80%) Le Male** > > **Then, to use it:** > > **Dab ALL OF THE STUFF ABOVE on your neck. (!?!)** > **Plus: A314 5 drops applied to neck, right?** > > Thats over 25 sprays. How long did it take to dry down? 😮 And you wonder why i run out of this stuff so quickly and need to bum it off of people. The pheros and fragrance were composited overnight. Tater almost always does an overnight or 3-day composite. You end up with 5 doses of the alcohol part since youve diluted it with the Le Male. Maybe thats what was unclear earlier. Apply the A314 first (5 drops). Tater always applies the oils first. Give it a few minutes to dry down. Then take 1/5th of the alcohol-based mix and streak it around your neck too. Theres IFM in this, so start at the back of your neck and come around to the ears on each side. That part was a bit drippy, but it dried out in 40-50 seconds. Tater uses the vial and his finger tips to apply. If you use your palm, the pheros end up on your hand not your neck. That can be okay if you dont apply to a part of your body you will wash during the day. Its still a good bit of liquid to swath yourself with, but it dries down pretty quickly. Tater much prefers to use IH 4x which gets that part down to .6ml. Im sure ive mentioned somewhere that, if you can afford it, and once you know how to dilute accurately, get high concentrations of your pheros. It would be so nice to have MX102 2x or 4x, IFM 4x and IS 4x. Too bad EST is so expensive. At seriously high doses, women respond very well to it. Diluting is easy. Concentrating is hard, even if you know whats in everything, and just impossible if you dont. ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2007, 2:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/slap-pheromones/7701/14 "2007-12-23T14:17:23Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > … > Im sure ive mentioned somewhere that, if you can afford it, and once you know how to dilute accurately, get high concentrations of your pheros. It would be so nice to have MX102 2x or 4x, Instant Female Magic 4x and IS 4x. Too bad EST is so expensive. At seriously high doses, women respond very well to it. > > Diluting is easy. Concentrating is hard, even if you know whats in everything, and just impossible if you dont. Yes. Although the mx series are fun to test and give great ideas of what the [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) are capable of, they suffer the drawbacks of having unknown components, coming in a single strength, and often having a added fragrance. I want to be able to repeat my personal mixes after I spend so much of my personal time researching them. For this reason I compose my standard mixes of experimones and putatives. My preference is for named experimones first, as then I know what chemical I’m using and repeatability is not tied to the Androtics supply. After that next down the list is putatives, as I can get them in the required dosages to create the mix I want, and what I get is reproducable as long as Androtics keeps stocking it. The commercial products and the mx series are last on my list for mixes. Being unknown, and with the possibility that Androtics will tweak them, repeatability is uncertain from batch to batch, and impossible if Androtics doesn’t supply the mx or commercial product. Also, as you mention, the inability to obtain higher dosages means that a complex mix may have way too much carrier. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2007, 8:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/slap-pheromones/7701/15 "2007-12-23T20:35:53Z")
> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#): > > Yes. > > Although the mx series are fun to test and give great ideas of what the pheromones are capable of, they suffer the drawbacks of having unknown components, coming in a single strength, and often having a added fragrance. > > I want to be able to repeat my personal mixes after I spend so much of my personal time researching them. For this reason I compose my standard mixes of experimones and putatives. My preference is for named experimones first, as then I know what chemical I’m using and repeatability is not tied to the Androtics supply. After that next down the list is putatives, as I can get them in the required dosages to create the mix I want, and what I get is reproducable as long as Androtics keeps stocking it. The commercial products and the mx series are last on my list for mixes. Being unknown, and with the possibility that Androtics will tweak them, repeatability is uncertain from batch to batch, and impossible if Androtics doesn’t supply the mx or commercial product. Also, as you mention, the inability to obtain higher dosages means that a complex mix may have way too much carrier. I guess im not worried about being tied to Androtics, but yes it is a pain having way too much carrier to try out some things. I believe you can always order the same version if you have a favorite that works well. What bothers me more is repeatability from batch to batch. Of course, Tater is paranoid anyhow, but he wonders sometimes if he got the wrong thing, or someone screwed up the formula. Theres no easy/inexpensive way to double-check. Ive also noticed that some MX get better with age which also alters the overall chemistry, but since i dont know whats in the MX, i cant tell what might be changing over time. ---
**Author:** ![NancysBoy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nancysboy/32/391_2.png) [@NancysBoy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NancysBoy)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2007, 10:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/slap-pheromones/7701/16 "2007-12-23T22:13:06Z")
My oh my, M&M, he’s saying he DID use all 25+ sprays at once! ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 3:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/slap-pheromones/7701/17 "2007-12-24T03:53:16Z")
> [@NancysBoy](#): > > My oh my, M&M, he’s saying he DID use all 25+ sprays at once! Yes, NB … in one bottle to make one batch, and then … he smeared some on. 🙄 **“The pheros and fragrance were composited overnight. Tater almost always does an overnight or 3-day composite. You end up with 5 doses of the alcohol part since youve diluted it with the Le Male. Maybe thats what was unclear earlier. Apply the A314 first (5 drops). Tater always applies the oils first. Give it a few minutes to dry down. Then take 1/5th of the alcohol-based mix and streak it around your neck too.”** ---
**Author:** ![NancysBoy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nancysboy/32/391_2.png) [@NancysBoy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NancysBoy)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 3:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/slap-pheromones/7701/18 "2007-12-24T03:59:32Z")
Umm, okay. Correction, again. He only used one fifth of the juice at once? So, he can do this four more times, with what was already mixed up, right? It’s still a lot, especially when you consider he’s doing something like 20 sprays of cologne and 5+ sprays of pheromones per event, right? ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 4:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/slap-pheromones/7701/19 "2007-12-24T04:11:23Z")
> [@NancysBoy](#): > > He only used one fifth of the juice at once? So, he can do this four more times, with what was already mixed up, right? > > It’s still a lot, especially when you consider he’s doing something like 20 sprays of cologne and 5+ sprays of pheromones per event, right? You are testing me right? 😮 HE DID NOT USE A LOT. The next time you drink a beer … take your finger, place it over the beer, flip the beer until you know your finger is nice and wet, and smear it from the back of your neck to the front of your neck. Now, do it again, but to the other side of your neck, and then … tell me how much beer you used. A lot or a little? 🙄 He DID NOT dab ALL of the mix onto his neck. TATER! Now look what you’ve done! 😛 🙄 😛 ---
**Author:** ![NancysBoy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nancysboy/32/391_2.png) [@NancysBoy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NancysBoy)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2007, 12:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/slap-pheromones/7701/20 "2007-12-25T00:26:49Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > A lot or a little? 🙄 He DID NOT dab ALL of the mix onto his neck. > > TATER! Now look what you’ve done! 😛 🙄 😛 I think he used 1/5th [one fifth] of the composited alcohol-based stuff at one time, so he can do it four more times, with what he already mixed together, plus the A314. Do you think he used less than that?😕 [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/slap-pheromones/7701.md?page=2)