# Smell of Urine...?! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [August 13, 2013, 9:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/smell-of-urine/59786 "2013-08-13T21:03:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![up-mygame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/74df32/32.png) [@up-mygame](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/up-mygame)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2013, 9:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/smell-of-urine/59786/1 "2013-08-13T21:03:19Z")
I live in an area where there are street cats that urinate and mark their territories as animals do. So, when I get in my car and smell urine after I turn on my AC I know they’ve been around my car but it dissipates before long. This week I’ve noticed a more persistent smell of urine in my car. I’m thinking that it’s in my car from the “mones”. I read where that smell can/is detected by some people. Is this the results of my getting in the car after spraying on the mones? OMG! I’ve noticed a faint hint of the same urine smell once or twice when not in my car. I recently received an order of and started using IS 2x strength; AMMO 2x strength. Is this an indication that these strengths are too strong? Is this urine smell the result of OD’ing? Is this what I’m smelling like to others? What gives? ---
**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/staggerlee/32/984_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Staggerlee)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2013, 10:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/smell-of-urine/59786/2 "2013-08-13T22:42:05Z")
> [@up-mygame](#): > > I live in an area where there are street cats that urinate and mark their territories as animals do. So, when I get in my car and smell urine after I turn on my AC I know they’ve been around my car but it dissipates before long. > > This week I’ve noticed a more persistent smell of urine in my car. I’m thinking that it’s in my car from the “mones”. I read where that smell can/is detected by some people. Is this the results of my getting in the car after spraying on the mones? OMG! > > I’ve noticed a faint hint of the same urine smell once or twice when not in my car. I recently received an order of and started using IS 2x strength; AMMO 2x strength. Is this an indication that these strengths are too strong? Is this urine smell the result of OD’ing? Is this what I’m smelling like to others? What gives? From what I’ve read, and I’m by no means an expert, about 30% of the populace will smell this urine or acrid sweat smell when experiencing [pheromones](https://a314.com/) which contain higher levels of androstenone, or 'none as some call it here. Androstenone I believe is what makes Ammo smell like that. Unfortunately, it seems, you are in that 30% of people who can smell this smell. ---
**Author:** ![up-mygame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/74df32/32.png) [@up-mygame](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/up-mygame)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 1:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/smell-of-urine/59786/3 "2013-08-14T01:57:06Z")
Thanks for the feedback! So there’s a % of women that will think I smell of urine? Hmmm…do I continue with pheromones? Are they safer for me at a lower dosage?😕 If so will they have the desired effect? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 2:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/smell-of-urine/59786/4 "2013-08-14T02:10:08Z")
People’s sensitivity to the smell of certain pheros does vary widely - so yes, some will smell them very strongly, others will not smell anything at all and some will smell something on a scale somewhere inbetween. Your own sensitivity will also vary - I can barely use P103 because to me its stinky cheese that I can’t cover with **anything** for more than an hour or so - **but** the bonkers-good responses i’ve got from it suggest to me that very few other people are that sensitive to its smell. I’ll also say that the pissy smell of Androstenone often hits me after some hours or sooner with cheap-shit products, so it is quite possibly enhanced by breakdown byproducts - so that might be a guide to scheduling freshen-ups/topups. Adjusting dose can help, as can different covers but broadly, if someone is going to be that sensiive (it is thought to be to some extent a genetic response), there won’t be that much you can do as they will smell the pheros though any cover. So yes, moving to a different combination of pheros can help too but its going to be a challenge if its a primary like none, rone or nol! ---
**Author:** ![up-mygame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/74df32/32.png) [@up-mygame](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/up-mygame)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 2:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/smell-of-urine/59786/5 "2013-08-14T02:19:01Z")
Thanks Mobocaster…can’t see how I can cover AMMO/Shine since they come scented already. Seems I have some work to do; don’t want to give up the mones altogether. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 2:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/smell-of-urine/59786/6 "2013-08-14T02:28:32Z")
IS is quite coverable as it is in 6% [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) - which will mesh well with a great many colognes. What you need to do now is test each one indiividually to see which is giving the stink, then take it from there - although I will say that the pissy stink is usually a hallmark of Androstenone. So if it is the Ammo, note how long it takes to appear, if its a long time, then its breakdown products, if short, its the phero iself. Once you know that, you can start making adjustments/changes. Bit it is important to bear in mind that even if you are getting the smell, your subjects may well not be getting it - and if you are still getting results, try not to worry about it. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 2:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/smell-of-urine/59786/7 "2013-08-14T02:35:05Z")
And don’t be too worried about smell overall - I can’t tell you how often I’ve been told by women that they getreally turned-on by the smell of a little bit of “manly sweat” - and particularly when its combined with the scent of certain colognes - notably [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and Cool Water 😉 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 2:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/smell-of-urine/59786/8 "2013-08-14T02:49:15Z")
Another thought, when spraying - have you been getting any overlap on your clothes or spraying under them? Pheros can bind/be trapped by some fibres and are difficult to shift - which leads to dosing and eventually stinky problems. Giving any affected clothing a good soak in an Oxy-type detergent is one way of shifting them. Same goes for hair, if you are getting overlap there (or have a very hairy chest), except for IS - its usually safe to use on hair but anything containing none or that breaks down to none can give similar problems - a good long scrub with hot soapy water is the only option short of the clippers here! ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 3:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/smell-of-urine/59786/9 "2013-08-14T03:06:08Z")
Ammo can be increased to 20% - full cologne strength via a custom order although that might be rather punchy with FF21 😮😃 ---
**Author:** ![up-mygame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/74df32/32.png) [@up-mygame](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/up-mygame)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 2:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/smell-of-urine/59786/10 "2013-08-15T14:06:10Z")
I use to spray my hair (very short cropped) but I noticed my eyes get really irritated so I stopped applying there. I don’t spray my clothes, but I have put my shirts on shortly after application. I try to wait until it’s settled and dry though. I really appreciate your feedback Mob…I was thinking that my sensitivity may not be someone else’s. So they very well won’t smell what I smell. Also, I started testing one at a time as you suggested and so far no ill effects. Nothing to report on from interactions but no “pissy” smell either. I’m heading out tonight and I’ll see what’s up. A little hesitant about using the AMMO x 2 but I’ll consider it. I also have IS/TUTH/[MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) to choose from so somethings going to be put to the test. Thanks again > [@mobocaster](#): > > Another thought, when spraying - have you been getting any overlap on your clothes or spraying under them? > > Pheros can bind/be trapped by some fibres and are difficult to shift - which leads to dosing and eventually stinky problems. Giving any affected clothing a good soak in an Oxy-type detergent is one way of shifting them. > > Same goes for hair, if you are getting overlap there (or have a very hairy chest), except for IS - its usually safe to use on hair but anything containing none or that breaks down to none can give similar problems - a good long scrub with hot soapy water is the only option short of the clippers here! ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 2:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/smell-of-urine/59786/11 "2013-08-16T02:35:26Z")
TUTH is mostly Androstenone, so that would be the easiest way to confirm or eliminate none as the culprit. And even after drying down, pheros could still be transferred to clothing by contact/rubbing, so there is still a little risk there. ---
**Author:** ![up-mygame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/74df32/32.png) [@up-mygame](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/up-mygame)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 3:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/smell-of-urine/59786/12 "2013-08-16T03:07:10Z")
Kool…Thanks again MOBO. Looking to do quite a bit of TUTH this weekend. Hooking up with an old squeeze. I’ve never really done TUTH except for a spray or two here and there but this weekend it’s on center stage. I think it’s coming (pissy smell) was coming from the AMMO. Car washed and the last couple of days haven’t worn AMMO and no scent. But, looking to do some this weekend…cautiously and under close observation. Also, taking my 2 x strength of IS. Some IG and IO are going along for the ride. Looking to match carefully and to kick TUTH into overdrive with [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/). Combos considering: IS 2x TUTH 1x P83 25mcg or IO 1x 2go TUTH 1x AMMO 2x P83 25mcg or IG TUTH IS 2x P83 25mcg Your thoughts, comments, suggestions…?! ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 4:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/smell-of-urine/59786/13 "2013-08-16T04:08:23Z")
All those are viable but at 52 and if I’m getting good responses, especially from someone with history, I would be looking to increase those TUTH proportions as the evening goes-on. So the [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) would probably go-up apace ---
**Author:** ![up-mygame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/74df32/32.png) [@up-mygame](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/up-mygame)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 4:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/smell-of-urine/59786/14 "2013-08-16T04:49:10Z")
Kool…the numbers I have posted are referring to the strengths I have not number of sprays. I’m looking to go at least 3-4 sprays w/TUTH and 2-3 sprays of the accompaniment. Any suggestions on application points? I have in mind of using the socials in those areas where (bend of elbow/forearm/wrists) pheromones will spread. Chest/neck/behind ears…(lower abdomen) when the time calls for it with TUTH! I a bit confused on layering. Should I spray one on top of another after initial spray has dried? I honestly only want to go with 3 items but as the stage is set another one may become feasible. P83 definitely to bring TUTH/AMMO all the way out. > [@mobocaster](#): > > All those are viable but at 52 and if I’m getting good responses, especially from someone with history, I would be looking to increase those TUTH proportions as the evening goes-on. So the P83 would probably go-up apace ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 8:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/smell-of-urine/59786/15 "2013-08-16T08:42:32Z")
That sounds more like it! 🙂 Yes, socials are good on the periphery but keep most of your none to the centre - neck/throat area. Some overlap is good though. Have a feel around for the warmest spots on your skin - Those will give best diffusion. Yes - leave a couple of minutes between each layer to let them dry down. Three products is a good rule of thumb when starting out but I do tend to regard IS and [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) as supplemental to this rule as they go so well with so many products and bring their own positive properties to mixes without the risk of screwing them up by overmoderating/unbalancing other components