# So, AMMO is out of stock. (Noob) **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 22, 2013, 8:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-ammo-is-out-of-stock-noob/59060 "2013-05-22T08:19:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Technetium](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/technetium/32/2000_2.png) [@Technetium](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Technetium)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2013, 8:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-ammo-is-out-of-stock-noob/59060/1 "2013-05-22T08:19:10Z")
What is the best thing closest to AMMO. I am a noob, this is my first purchase. Any ideas? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2013, 8:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-ammo-is-out-of-stock-noob/59060/2 "2013-05-22T08:49:58Z")
[Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is the nearest but there is nothing else unless you fancy combining TUTH, IO and IG - Which would be a broadly similar combo. The other option would be to get Androstenone, Alpha Androstenol and Androsterone at 2.5mcg concentrations and layer them equally - that would be Ammo more or less. Otherwise, just hang-on a bit. This one does not stay out of stock for long. IIRC John once said that he updates the store on Tursdays. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2013, 9:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-ammo-is-out-of-stock-noob/59060/3 "2013-05-22T09:18:46Z")
Actually, I’ve just looked and all versions of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) are showing as in stock for me. have you tried clearing your cookies/cache and reloading the store? It could be a web glitch? ---
**Author:** ![Technetium](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/technetium/32/2000_2.png) [@Technetium](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Technetium)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2013, 9:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-ammo-is-out-of-stock-noob/59060/4 "2013-05-22T09:26:37Z")
Let me try again. Hold on. ---
**Author:** ![Technetium](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/technetium/32/2000_2.png) [@Technetium](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Technetium)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2013, 9:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-ammo-is-out-of-stock-noob/59060/5 "2013-05-22T09:44:11Z")
That worked. But my points disappeared. Oh well. I bought AMMO for my first mone. Wheew. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![JoelS57](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/joels57/32/1777_2.png) [@JoelS57](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JoelS57)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2013, 4:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-ammo-is-out-of-stock-noob/59060/6 "2013-05-22T16:18:49Z")
I used the Ammo on Saturday. I believe I ordered the 2x, I didn’t have anywhere in particular to go, and went out and rode a bit. It is strong, and you can feel it in your body. I sprayed a little too much both arms, and my face, and it was overpowering with my full face helmet on. I got a hang over, from it, which carried over till the next day. Should have started lightly, but I wanted to see what a lot does. It smells good ,really good, even when you get sweaty. ---
**Author:** ![fuser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@fuser](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fuser)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2013, 8:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-ammo-is-out-of-stock-noob/59060/7 "2013-05-23T08:57:29Z")
Ammo is amazing. Honestly, hands down the best product I have tried. I used IG, IS, TUTH, and Alpha and I believe Ammo is the more powerful one for pick up purposes. It is a game changer. I spray some IS and makes girls so flirty also and gives me a boost. ---
**Author:** ![JoelS57](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/joels57/32/1777_2.png) [@JoelS57](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JoelS57)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 5:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-ammo-is-out-of-stock-noob/59060/8 "2013-05-29T05:27:29Z")
I have to try and see if I can find the right amount. I get a good feeling from it. I might have to find something to moderate it with. No deer in the headlights, more like fear elicitation so far ☹. [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/),which I posted, observation, in another thread. Come on too strong. 2 days, then stopped.