# So here is what I'm doing. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 29, 2007, 2:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-here-is-what-im-doing/3409 "2007-04-29T14:46:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Thorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Thorick](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Thorick)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 2:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-here-is-what-im-doing/3409/1 "2007-04-29T14:46:27Z")
okay, a while back, I got some advice from you guys about turning ljbf into girlfriends. So I’m going to church today with the mix suggested which is some ammo, instant female magic, and instant shine. I’ll bring two bottles of instant openness and instant honesty in case things go good and I can use it to keep the convos going. Anyways, I’ll tell you how it goes when I get back. ---
**Author:** ![bmthint](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bmthint/32/1283_2.png) [@bmthint](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bmthint)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 3:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-here-is-what-im-doing/3409/2 "2007-04-29T15:59:06Z")
well gl, trying something like this is always risky, cuz u can potentially losed them as friends if they arent intersted ---
**Author:** ![Thorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Thorick](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Thorick)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 3:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-here-is-what-im-doing/3409/3 "2007-04-30T03:17:07Z")
Well. Here is what happened. Almost nothing really. I can’t tell if this is the phero’s or what. I noticed that when I first saw them, they seemed to be looking at me, though not trying to look at me. They would sit, and look out of the corner of their eye, now they might have been looking at me, or it could have been something else, but other then that, that is all I saw, not much more. Not another reaction at all from the two girls, nothing then normal anyways. So ya, that didn’t go good at all. Anyways, I did get lucky in the fact that another girl i liked who had moved away for college had come back for her brothers wedding. So I haven’t been able to talk to her, cause I was always to shy. I went on a date with her once, and I believe I totally messed it up, so have been deathly shy of her, avoiding her like the plague from embarrasment of a date we went on a year ago. So I really wanted to talk to her. I went out to my vehicle and sprayed on some instant openness and then went back into the church. She was standing in the hallway with her older sister, so I was homefree, no excuses to say she was busy talking to somebody else. I walked up to her and said “Hey hows it going.” and then we started talking. She asked me how I was doing and what future plans where .I asked how she was liking where she was living and if she had met some people I knew there. It was pretty good. It was a good general catchup conversation. IT wasn’t very long, cause then her family was going and she went with them, but it released some tension I had around her. So thats good. Next time I see her- which could be in a long time- I’ll do it again and gain more confidence. Maybe if things go right, I’ll eventually ask if she wants to hang out or somithng- but thats not for a very long time. But it could come to that. But ya, it seemed the instant openness gave me some confidence and helped the conversation flow smoothly. I didn’t have to keep it going, we both seemed interested in talking to eachother. The other girls though, well, i didn’t notice much at all accept for possible hidden eye contact, and even then, they could have been looking at people coming into the room we were in through the entrance behind me. Oh funny thing too. One of the guys at church was sitting beside me and bumped a hymn book on the bench and it hit my dress pants. I had my openness and honesty in my pocket and they clinked together. The whole time he kept asking what was in my pocket and I just kept saying: “my secret to success” Thats all I would say, and he kept trying to grab it through my pocket. Such a close call, expecially since he is one of the girls I was first trying to targets boyfriend. Would have been weird explaining it to him- not because hes her boyfriend, but because if he told her, and she told her sister- my current target, now that would be weird trying to explain that to my target girl. ---
**Author:** ![bmthint](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bmthint/32/1283_2.png) [@bmthint](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bmthint)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 3:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-here-is-what-im-doing/3409/4 "2007-04-30T03:19:21Z")
what ratio were u wearin ure mix, cuz u should have definitely been gettin some results ---
**Author:** ![Thorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Thorick](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Thorick)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 2:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-here-is-what-im-doing/3409/5 "2007-04-30T14:19:42Z")
I wore 1.5 sprays ammo, 2 sprays [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), and 3 sprays shine. later on near the end of church I went out and put 3 sprays instant Openness ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-here-is-what-im-doing/3409/6 "2007-04-30T19:32:24Z")
Sounds you were all dressed up with no place to go. Methinks you care too much about what people think may about you. Cut it all loose. It’s dad burn ball 'n chain and is holding you back. The [pheromones](https://a314.com/) can only impart a little edge to your interactions. They will not fundamentally change your persona or self-confidence. That’s totally up to you. ---
**Author:** ![bmthint](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bmthint/32/1283_2.png) [@bmthint](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bmthint)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 2:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-here-is-what-im-doing/3409/7 "2007-05-01T02:29:27Z")
ya, the pheros make u out as a bad azz but ure gonna have to act the part, u no? ---
**Author:** ![Thorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Thorick](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Thorick)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 3:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-here-is-what-im-doing/3409/8 "2007-05-01T03:12:45Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Sounds you were all dressed up with no place to go. Methinks you care too much about what people think may about you. Cut it all loose. It’s dad burn ball 'n chain and is holding you back. The pheromones can only impart a little edge to your interactions. They will not fundamentally change your persona or self-confidence. That’s totally up to you. I don’t really understand what your saying here. If your talking about dressing up literally, well everybody does at my church, cause its our sunday clothes. I would like to know what you mean, so I can apply the knowledge. ---
**Author:** ![bmthint](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bmthint/32/1283_2.png) [@bmthint](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bmthint)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 10:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-here-is-what-im-doing/3409/9 "2007-05-01T22:24:54Z")
i think hes sayin u were 2 self controlled and tight. u needed to loosen up. he was talkin bout bein dressed up as having the pheros on. u have to do something with the pheros tho ---
**Author:** ![Thorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Thorick](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Thorick)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2007, 4:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-here-is-what-im-doing/3409/10 "2007-05-03T16:51:08Z")
oh okay. So like maybe I should have went and talked to the girls, or something like that? I think I know what you mean now. Well I have another Dance this friday, so I want to act the part there and see what will happen. ---
**Author:** ![bmthint](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bmthint/32/1283_2.png) [@bmthint](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bmthint)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2007, 6:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-here-is-what-im-doing/3409/11 "2007-05-04T06:20:00Z")
he means use some more game… be more assertive. ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 2:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-here-is-what-im-doing/3409/12 "2007-05-20T02:29:46Z")
You still need to start things rolling. You need to approach. They won’t come to you. It sounds like you caught their eye. What you need to do is follow through and give them an opportunity to talk to you. You need to show your “value,” “confidence,” and “manliness” by approaching them. If you are reluctant to take a “big” plunge (with a specific desired target), just start by approaching everyone/anyone and striking up conversations. Once you get comfortable with that and into the swing of it, you may either try appoaching a desired target, or much to your suprise, you may suddenly find yourself talking to that target just by going with the flow. I would think there might be other church-sponsored activities both you and your targets might be attending as well. Diversify. ---
**Author:** ![mindset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ccd318/32.png) [@mindset](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mindset)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 11:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-here-is-what-im-doing/3409/13 "2007-05-20T11:28:05Z")
Thorick, I have a severe case of social anxiety, so I’m the last person who would ever approach **anybody**. The pheros on the other hand are a safety net, and they encouraged me to talk to the people I was atleast interested in getting to know. I am currently talking to a “MILF,” which at first was extremely uncomfortable for me to do, but she appeared to have no interest in me before wearing the pheros, so I figured I had nothing to lose. Ha! I have worn A314 and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) around her for the last month or so, and she has changed dramatically around me. I wear Ammunition on occassion, but it’s mainly just the above mix. Anyways, for the first few weeks, I would just say “hey” to her, ask a couple of questions, state a few facts about myself, and then dismiss myself to other activities. Then, I completely ignored her for about a week, which probably intrigued her - I always caught her looking out of the corner of her eye, staring me down blatantly, and then turning her head when I looked her direction. So likewise I did the same for that entire week all the while ignoring her in the sense that I did not smile or say anything to her. At the end of that week, she abruptly asks me if I’m going to ever talk to her again, but with a seductive, much more sexually interested look than I ever had seen her display. Of course, I began talking to her, and opened up the set. Now she is beginning to show blatant IOIs - flirtatious brow raising, eye contact, becoming the center of the conversation (before she just listened as if she wanted the discussion to end quickly), and positioning herself ‘doggystyle’ when she caught me looking at her ass. LMAO. Right now, I’m playing the LJBF role while still giving off the sexual/flirtatious vibe. This seems to have really intrigued her, and almost appears that she may even initiate the intimate approach. I really intended on just practicing game on her with various phero signatures, but it turns out that I’m started to find myself interested in her. We’ll see if this goes anywhere. It really does appear that it is heading in that direction. Summary of this post: You can approach indirectly. It as actually more natural that way, and in my past experiences, an overtone in interest will make your target think that you are only interested in her intimately/sexually, which will make them standoffish to any future attempt you have for her, unless of course, she is interested in you from the get-go.