# So I Just "The Game" by Neil Strauss **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [September 7, 2007, 12:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-i-just-the-game-by-neil-strauss/5439 "2007-09-07T00:48:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 12
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MHarris on ‘The Game’ > [@Neil Strauss "The Game" - a fascinating read!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/neil-strauss-the-game-a-fascinating-read/1000): > > Has anyone else here read his book? I became curious about Neil after seeing his photo in Jasmin’s “free pivot” thread … he wasn’t what I expected a pickup artist to look like! So I found his book (leather bound with gold edging, it resembles nothing so much as a Bible) and was delighted to discover what a good writer he is, and how much he reveals about the dark side of the PUA lifestyle and some of its central players. Many times he had me laughing out loud; there’s some priceless material her… I find the discussion above to cover some interesting ground. The whole thread is worth a read, but partic MHarris post reposted below **Re: Neil Strauss “The Game” - a fascinating read!** The modern techniques of “game” work, especially on younger women that respond almost exclusively to social posturing. With modern game, you can consciously hit the hot buttons that “jerks” have accidentally. The current “state of the art” in “game” is the start of something better than what you see today. You guys do see how complex and formulaic today’s “game” is, right? It’s mostly empowering what used to be called “nerds”… you know, the guys with big brains and whale sized attention spans. Truly wonderful, high value men whom, in a perfect world, would be getting all the girls… but simply weren’t. In fact, you can literally think of this as the movie “Revenge of the Nerds” come true. Now the _good guys_ have tools to gain access to what was simply given to meaningless meatheads – the jerks and abusive nutbags that girls LOGICALLY knew they shouldn’t be attracted to, but EMOTIONALLY were, despite logic. For the most part, “Game” today is a good thing. It allows what are mostly intelligent men to be just as brilliant with women as they are with computers, finance and other serious topics. Any tool could be considered manipulative. I think it has a lot to do with who’s using it and why. While these guys talk a “big game” (male bravado), most eventually want a _girlfriend or wife_. Noble goals. Both Eric Markovich (Mystery) and [Neil Strauss](http://www.amazon.com/Game-Penetrating-Secret-Society-Artists/dp/0060554738) have gotten “one-itis” for what they perceive to be the “end all, be all” woman (what Eric once called “the one”). So what’s the worst that’s going to come from computer programmers and other _good guys_ learning some socials skills (and yes, a few “tricks”)? Women of tommorow will end up with more warm, loving providers? _Prove_ to me that this is a bad thing. To me, it makes for a brighter tommorow… with less children that have scumbags for dads. (if you don’t know who donates most of the sperm to make most the kid’s in the world, dig into anthropology and evolutionary psychology a little. Start with David Buss’ book “Evolution of Desire”) What may seem like a sort of superficial system _on the outside_, actually makes for some substantial world improvement in action, folks. It’s not as bad as it seems, when used by decent men. My comments about Neil above mostly had to do where _where_ and _with whom_ he consorts. I think he’s been dealing with so many empty people in LA, that this otherwise fascinating man with so much to offer, has started to lose his faith in humanity and womankind. That is then leading to his misapplication of these tools, to waste time with women who really aren’t worth it. Gem, thanks for the comment about Tyler. Maybe a less than happy [Neil Strauss](http://www.amazon.com/Game-Penetrating-Secret-Society-Artists/dp/0060554738) is now becoming his own made up, politicized version of Tyler? 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