# So i need some advice.

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-i-need-some-advice/33745>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [October 31, 2009, 10:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-i-need-some-advice/33745 "2009-10-31T22:08:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![RedDrag0n](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3ab097/32.png) [@RedDrag0n](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RedDrag0n)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 9:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-i-need-some-advice/33745/21 "2009-11-03T21:55:29Z")

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Welp looks like i will be forced to go out and figure something to do.. blizzard banned my account for WoW for no reason except they claim i have third party programs on my computer that automate my character for me.. i dont think so considering i have control issues.. xD Welp im done with wow if they dont change their mind i refuse to make another account and lvl up more characters.. it doesnt hold that much of an addiction to me anymore just something to keep my mind occupied from bordom

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**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 10:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-i-need-some-advice/33745/22 "2009-11-03T22:31:50Z")

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Not being judgemental or anything (I am a super positive guy), to me it looks like Blizzard has done you a wonderful favor!  
You can now play with people in real life! Its way more fun! Once you get the interactions with others down pat, its fun to put on different pheromones and see how people’s responses change to you. Its reminds me of a superpower in a way! LOL

> [@RedDrag0n](#):
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> Welp looks like i will be forced to go out and figure something to do.. blizzard banned my account for WoW for no reason except they claim i have third party programs on my computer that automate my character for me.. i dont think so considering i have control issues.. xD Welp im done with wow if they dont change their mind i refuse to make another account and lvl up more characters.. it doesnt hold that much of an addiction to me anymore just something to keep my mind occupied from bordom

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**Author:** ![RedDrag0n](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3ab097/32.png) [@RedDrag0n](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RedDrag0n)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 4:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-i-need-some-advice/33745/23 "2009-11-04T04:51:24Z")

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in all honestly the reason i played was because if i go outside i usually tend to spend money.. and since i dont have a stable job it kept me from doing that haha oh well (pardon my french) Fuck blizzard and Fuck WoW.

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**Author:** ![RedDrag0n](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3ab097/32.png) [@RedDrag0n](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RedDrag0n)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 12:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-i-need-some-advice/33745/24 "2009-11-05T00:04:50Z")

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Wow unexpected \>.\> I saw a woman i met like 3 months ago at the gym again today and she happend to get on the treadmill right next to me and i recognized her and started talking. i ended up doing a mile more than i usually do cause i was talking to her xD and i stayed a bit after i was done… i actually asked her if she wanted to join me for a drink somewhere sometime and she said yes but we didnt trade numbers or anything. i just hope its not another 3 months before i see her again xD. no -mones or anything on unless those three sprays of IG from yesterday somehow stuck around but i doubt that..

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**Author:** ![interestedone09](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/interestedone09/32/760_2.png) [@interestedone09](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/interestedone09)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 1:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-i-need-some-advice/33745/25 "2009-11-05T01:01:48Z")

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> [@RedDrag0n](#):
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> Wow unexpected \>.\> I saw a woman i met like 3 months ago at the gym again today and she happend to get on the treadmill right next to me and i recognized her and started talking. i ended up doing a mile more than i usually do cause i was talking to her xD and i stayed a bit after i was done… i actually asked her if she wanted to join me for a drink somewhere sometime and she said yes but we didnt trade numbers or anything. i just hope its not another 3 months before i see her again xD. no -mones or anything on unless those three sprays of IG from yesterday somehow stuck around but i doubt that..

You did good my friend! See how much easier it is to talk to them instead of waiting for them talk talk to you

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**Author:** ![RedDrag0n](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3ab097/32.png) [@RedDrag0n](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RedDrag0n)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 1:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-i-need-some-advice/33745/26 "2009-11-05T01:28:25Z")

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> [@interestedone09](#):
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> You did good my friend! See how much easier it is to talk to them instead of waiting for them talk talk to you

the thing is she talked to me first \>.\> 3 months ago. she was making fun of my on the treadmill asking me if i wanted her to catch me if i fell off cause i was running haha

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**Author:** ![interestedone09](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/interestedone09/32/760_2.png) [@interestedone09](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/interestedone09)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 5:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-i-need-some-advice/33745/27 "2009-11-05T17:37:31Z")

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> [@RedDrag0n](#):
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> the thing is she talked to me first \>.\> 3 months ago. she was making fun of my on the treadmill asking me if i wanted her to catch me if i fell off cause i was running haha

oh… well then you’re definitely doing good! maybe the phero’s were assisiting =]

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**Author:** ![RedDrag0n](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3ab097/32.png) [@RedDrag0n](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RedDrag0n)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 5:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-i-need-some-advice/33745/28 "2009-11-06T05:11:04Z")

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> [@interestedone09](#):
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> oh… well then you’re definitely doing good! maybe the phero’s were assisiting =]

my natural ones? lol i didnt have pheros then and i didnt have any on this time either

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**Author:** ![alternativegirl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alternativegirl/32/2335_2.png) [@alternativegirl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alternativegirl)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 5:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-i-need-some-advice/33745/29 "2009-11-06T05:26:56Z")

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OMG red dragon. I feel for you. I would be your wing-woman if you were not on the other end of the country. But this is going to be great for you! Let the party begin. 😉 Do you like music? What kind of music do you like? You have come talk to me. My! How that stuff works. And IG will add to the depth of your intrigue. So the weekend is coming up. Are there any shows/ concerts going on in the city near you? There will be girls around your age, dressed up, dancing around intoxicated by the music, and out looking for someone interesting to talk to. If rock shows or music isn’t your thing, then what are your interests? IG would work really well in a class setting. It is incredible how well mones work in a class room, and at a junior college there are tons of really nice girls your age. You would have so many dates you would hardly have time to study, but the teachers will like you, too. What sort of things are you into, and what sort of girls/ situations are you looking for?

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**Author:** ![RedDrag0n](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3ab097/32.png) [@RedDrag0n](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RedDrag0n)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 6:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-i-need-some-advice/33745/30 "2009-11-06T06:30:27Z")

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> [@alternativegirl](#):
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> OMG red dragon. I feel for you. I would be your wing-woman if you were not on the other end of the country. But this is going to be great for you! Let the party begin. 😉 Do you like music? What kind of music do you like? You have come talk to me. My! How that stuff works. And IG will add to the depth of your intrigue. So the weekend is coming up. Are there any shows/ concerts going on in the city near you? There will be girls around your age, dressed up, dancing around intoxicated by the music, and out looking for someone interesting to talk to. If rock shows or music isn’t your thing, then what are your interests? IG would work really well in a class setting. It is incredible how well mones work in a class room, and at a junior college there are tons of really nice girls your age. You would have so many dates you would hardly have time to study, but the teachers will like you, too. What sort of things are you into, and what sort of girls/ situations are you looking for?

I live in maryland.. nothing good happens in any state i live in.. Ever! I wanted to go to Metalocalypse with Dethklok and Mastadon BUT NO! it was only in like ma, pa, ny and shit.. i was ticked. I have never been to a concert. the one year i WAS going to go to HFStival they turned the station into a latin station.. and it was like the latinfestival or some crap.  
but as for music i am more partial to speed metal and hard rock, classic rock but my playlist has over 1000 songs in it ranging from death metal to 50s pop. i have been contimplating getting a guitar for the past few months but i cant quite afford one yet. reason i got instant gentleman is cause i wanted people to somewhat sense how i felt.. i feel like im a 26/27 yr old in a 23 yr old body sometimes.. i mean yeah i act childish most the time but thats cause i like to enjoy myself.. i kinda irritate my family sometimes cause im too positive and always cheerful around them anyway. prolly cause im out of the house heh. all if tried so far is alpha and ig. havent taken a run with cttm2 or shine cause for cttm2 i have the togo i got as a free gift lol. i dont go to college cause im waiting till march when i take the aptitude test to become a electrician apprentice. only have a really insignificant part time job right now.. only day i think they have me scheduled this month is friday the 13th.. xD cousin owns it and like my mom aunt and three other cousins work there too xD im like last on the list for schedualing for some reason..

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**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-i-need-some-advice/33745/31 "2009-11-06T15:57:43Z")

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Thats what I am talking about! You make the stuff happen. Even without pheros you can do the same things you can do with them. I am glad to here you did well without mones. Once you get your social skills on par (good confidence) think of how the mones will give you a 10% advantage over everyone else! Its awesome! You will learn that YOU have the power to change someones day. YOU can put joy into thier life that was not there before. Just because you atalked to them. That is amazing my friend. Not to mention you can grow relationships with beautiful women if you so desire 🙂

> [@RedDrag0n](#):
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> Wow unexpected \>.\> I saw a woman i met like 3 months ago at the gym again today and she happend to get on the treadmill right next to me and i recognized her and started talking. i ended up doing a mile more than i usually do cause i was talking to her xD and i stayed a bit after i was done… i actually asked her if she wanted to join me for a drink somewhere sometime and she said yes but we didnt trade numbers or anything. i just hope its not another 3 months before i see her again xD. no -mones or anything on unless those three sprays of IG from yesterday somehow stuck around but i doubt that..

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**Author:** ![RedDrag0n](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3ab097/32.png) [@RedDrag0n](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RedDrag0n)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-i-need-some-advice/33745/32 "2009-11-06T19:25:45Z")

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ill settle for cute or pretty i dont want a beautiful woman cause theyre more vain than anything… xD preferably one with glasses.. rawr! lol

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**Author:** ![onthornsilay](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/onthornsilay/32/1427_2.png) [@onthornsilay](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/onthornsilay)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 7:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-i-need-some-advice/33745/33 "2009-11-06T19:54:46Z")

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I only read the first page so what im about to say may have already been mentioned… But try a coffee shop, you can buy a coffee and just sit down and relax, and you can actually observe people better this way. Take a lap top with you and surf the net or something, keep doing it week after week and see if u get results… im doing it. works great.

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**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2009, 12:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-i-need-some-advice/33745/34 "2009-11-07T00:01:02Z")

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What ever floats your boat 🙂

Whenever you find the right one she will be beautiful no matter what!  
Actually my wife is really hot 🙂 I am not saying that because I am her husband, but because I get many compliments (her more so LOL) She is not vain at all. She is actually opposite. Sometimes I worry! She will NOT excercise, nor really eat all that healthy. Drives me nuts. Luckily its in her genes to be at a healthy weight naturally. My point, is you can’t judge a book by its cover. Cliche, but it works both ways!

> [@RedDrag0n](#):
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> ill settle for cute or pretty i dont want a beautiful woman cause theyre more vain than anything… xD preferably one with glasses.. rawr! lol

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**Author:** ![RedDrag0n](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3ab097/32.png) [@RedDrag0n](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RedDrag0n)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2009, 3:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-i-need-some-advice/33745/35 "2009-11-07T03:24:33Z")

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yes indeed.. people have told me i look like a creepy stalker xD least when i was heavier haha. im still sorta creepy but thats what happens when you have the odd gift to turn a convo about anything into something ackward 😉 haha

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**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 3:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-i-need-some-advice/33745/36 "2009-11-08T15:15:44Z")

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I think that everyone is creepy looking when you really think about it. 🙂 I believe that everyone is crazy. Everyone has their distorted view of reality that causes them to do things that are crazy. You would not notice these things knowing 99% of people, they keep it a secret! Whether its a complusion or a secret lust or even just a belief they have in thier head. Everyone is thier own version of normal. No one really is normal though! I have a compulsion about wrinkles in my clothes. I will not wear something that has wrinkles. Maybe not crazy in some definitions, but it really isnt normal. 😛

I have a gift like that too. 😃  
Its only awkward if YOU are awkward about it. That is what I have learned. Be comfortable with yourself others will be comfortable too. You have to be your true self for anyone else to truly know you.

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> yes indeed.. people have told me i look like a creepy stalker xD least when i was heavier haha. im still sorta creepy but thats what happens when you have the odd gift to turn a convo about anything into something ackward 😉 haha

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**Author:** ![interestedone09](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/interestedone09/32/760_2.png) [@interestedone09](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/interestedone09)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-i-need-some-advice/33745/37 "2009-11-08T15:56:14Z")

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> [@andrew88777](#):
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> I think that everyone is creepy looking when you really think about it. 🙂 I believe that everyone is crazy. Everyone has their distorted view of reality that causes them to do things that are crazy. You would not notice these things knowing 99% of people, they keep it a secret! Whether its a complusion or a secret lust or even just a belief they have in thier head. Everyone is thier own version of normal. No one really is normal though! I have a compulsion about wrinkles in my clothes. I will not wear something that has wrinkles. Maybe not crazy in some definitions, but it really isnt normal. 😛
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> I have a gift like that too. 😃  
> Its only awkward if YOU are awkward about it. That is what I have learned. Be comfortable with yourself others will be comfortable too. You have to be your true self for anyone else to truly know you.

Well said Andrew!

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**Author:** ![RedDrag0n](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3ab097/32.png) [@RedDrag0n](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RedDrag0n)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 2:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-i-need-some-advice/33745/38 "2009-11-09T14:51:26Z")

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i didnt mean awkward as in nervous blah blah awkward i meant i can cause a convo to silence with the right comment and its quite humorous to me. its taken me a while to get used to how my personality is but im getting there im always gonna be a energetic nut ball.. ive accepted that fact 😛 i could consider myself to be a shyer version of quagmire.. i point out the raunchy jokes and in my head everything sounds so very wrong xD its an odd day when my minds not in the gutter and i say giggity giggity goo almost as much 😃 im somewhat comfortable with myself i just want to have a beach bod by spring :-p thats my goal and ill be damned if i dont stick to it.

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