# So last night's date went well...

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-last-nights-date-went-well/21121>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [October 10, 2008, 3:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-last-nights-date-went-well/21121 "2008-10-10T03:25:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![wilks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f475e1/32.png) [@wilks](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wilks)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 3:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-last-nights-date-went-well/21121/1 "2008-10-10T03:25:56Z")

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I guess I should start a journal if I’m going to keep posting escapades…

(Test) Combo used:  
1 S IO to the wrists  
1 S IH x2 to the hair  
1 S IH x2 to the front of the neck  
1 S TUTH to the chest  
1/2 S TUTH to the front of the neck, and another to the back of the neck.  
Reapplied TUTH after dinner at by wiping the straw along the jawline.  
1 S P79 to the neck  
1 S P79 to the hair

Note: when on a date in this kind of atmosphere, pick a booth.

So I invite a girl to dinner/drinks at a restaurant/blues bar. It starts off awkward because she thought I was dodging her and almost cancelled the date. We get there, order dinner, make some small talk but nothing big happens.

After dinner, the overhead music gets so loud we can’t talk across the table, so I move to her side of the both and get a bit close, but don’t directly face her.

We drink some more, laugh some more and flirt a bit.

Note part II: I’ve made out with this girl in public twice already, the only 2 times I’ve seen her. The first time was when we met and it was after 15 mins of talking.

Then she makes a small move and keeps saying out loud, “No, I need to control myself.” We kiss for a moment, heavy neck breathing and whatnot, then she does it again.

“No, I need to control myself. People are going to stare again.”

The band comes out and the makeout starts in the teasing stage.

Note part III. I learned that Blues bars are GREAT for atmosphere, for those that don’t know.

At one point she says, “I just don’t get why I can’t stop going after you.”  
I joke and respond, “Maybe it’s my cologne. I should probably stop wearing it.”  
She replies, “NO! \<then quietly\> don’t change your cologne.”

The band goes on a break, I ask her back to my place. She knows about my recent long term breakup, but I broke the resistance and drove her to my place. We put on a movie and watched about 10 mins of it.

She had all this resistance during makeout, petting, foreplay and more, but we just couldn’t stop. I’ve never seen a girl get that hot; it was to the point I thought she was faking it.

She stayed until 3, constantly with her head nuzzled in my neck when we weren’t getting all handsy.

The next date is dinner at my place sunday.

The one thing that’s bugging the living crap out of me. I’ve used a LOT of IH around her, but she will not reveal innermost feelings, and her past. It makes me wonder that it’s not going to work for me, since I don’t see much result from IH/IO in general. Advice there would be appreciated.

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**Author:** ![lukester19](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lukester19/32/1953_2.png) [@lukester19](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lukester19)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 4:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-last-nights-date-went-well/21121/2 "2008-10-10T04:15:09Z")

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Well i found this post by ntk23 and also remember reading a few posts from people with the same problem but cant find them now.

“I never found one for [P79](https://pheromonelabs.com/)… it is kind of an “enhancing” [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/), be it the effects of other pheros, moods or sensory acuity. But round about 10mcg may enhance the effects of anything else you combine with it. Some posters have said however that it gives a kind of “argumentative” energy sometimes, which you might not want. I personally am still trying to get a handle on my own [P79](https://pheromonelabs.com/), haven’t quite figured it out.”  
thanks ntk23 for the info

It looks like she was making a move but second guessing maybe next time try with out this. Or maybe with a lower dosage of turn up the heat because it can produce different results. Just keep on experimenting.

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**Author:** ![snakeeyesontheparadise](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snakeeyesontheparadise/32/791_2.png) [@snakeeyesontheparadise](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snakeeyesontheparadise)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 12:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-last-nights-date-went-well/21121/3 "2008-10-12T00:35:16Z")

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> [@lukester19](#):
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> “I never found one for [P79](https://pheromonelabs.com/)… it is kind of an “enhancing” pheromone, be it the effects of other pheros, moods or sensory acuity. But round about 10mcg may enhance the effects of anything else you combine with it. Some posters have said however that it gives a kind of “argumentative” energy sometimes, which you might not want. I personally am still trying to get a handle on my own [P79](https://pheromonelabs.com/), haven’t quite figured it out.”  
> thanks ntk23 for the info

I’ve found that P79 on it’s own will definitely affect sensory acuity, but combined with other [pheromones](https://a314.com/) it will act as an enhancer or will help to “bond” your pheromone mix together or “round out” your pheromone mix, especially when wearing a lot of different products together. What I mean by this is it will get all the different products you have on their “time in the sun”, it will allow them to all act together the way they should, instead of having just the more dominant ones you have on working for you, they should all work together as a “combined unit” when you have P79 on at over 20mcgs. I guess in a way this could be termed “enhancing”, but I’d like to call it more “rounding out” your mix. Mind you, i’ve deifinitely found that wearing P79 together with only 1 other product will definitely enhance the products effectiveness.

And rep points for the original post, as this is excellent testing of the correct products to use under the correct circumstances.

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**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 6:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-last-nights-date-went-well/21121/4 "2008-10-12T06:12:42Z")

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> [@wilks](#):
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> The one thing that’s bugging the living crap out of me. I’ve used a LOT of Instant Honesty around her, but she will not reveal innermost feelings, and her past. It makes me wonder that it’s not going to work for me, since I don’t see much result from Instant Honesty/Instant Openness in general. Advice there would be appreciated.

Hey Wilks, you already _are_ seeing the effects of IH. You want her to reveal her innermost feelings? She’s showing them to you. These are ‘communication’ pheromones, not specifically verbal communication. Their emotions at that point in time can manifest itself in a variety of ways, she seems to just act out her feelings. I know a-Androstenol makes people really chatty, but there is the bigger picture, IMO, that is overlooked at times. If someone wants to communicate with you, consciously or unconsciously, and they can’t verbally communicate what they want with you, they might find another way to do so.

At all points in the interaction, she’s letting her innermost feelings visible, and you read them correctly and closed the deal. If she’s not revealing her past, it might be more important to her to enjoy her interaction with you fully, rather than revisit the past with you.

If you really want to know about her past, though I’m sure you’ve already tried this, it’s all in how you ask and what you specifically ask about. I’m sure this isn’t news to you, but I usually just frame the questions around their feelings regarding the past. It is more engaging and they’ll indulge you with more details since they want to fully express their feelings and memories from the past. But be careful, if you open the wrong can, it might be full of worms.

Oh, and congratulations on the successful date. 😃 Couldn’t forget that..

Also, what concentration is your p79 at?

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**Author:** ![wilks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f475e1/32.png) [@wilks](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wilks)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 7:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-last-nights-date-went-well/21121/5 "2008-10-12T19:23:00Z")

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p79 is at 5mcgm. I wasn’t sure how strong to go to get an effect…

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**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-last-nights-date-went-well/21121/6 "2008-10-12T19:32:31Z")

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> [@snakeeyesontheparadise](#):
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> I’ve found that P79 on it’s own will definitely affect sensory acuity

Just found this out today for sure! When I made that post that Luke quoted, I had experienced firsthand the “combo-enhancing” qualities of P79, and also the mood-enhancing qualities, and then I was summarising the findings of other posters to the forum re: the sensory acuity. But I certainly experienced the last effect today. It was funny because I had forgotten about that aspect of P79, and I didn’t go looking for it in particular. But I wondered why a noise (of a sander) was hurting my ears and making me cringe - I’m not normally squeamish about abrasive sounds - and it was only afterwards I figured out that it was probably the P79 effect. This’ll be interesting with regard to effects on others, for sure!
