# So many tests So little time - My journal **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [November 23, 2007, 4:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431 "2007-11-23T16:53:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Eslite119](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eslite119/32/176_2.png) [@Eslite119](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eslite119)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2008, 6:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/261 "2008-08-03T18:31:08Z")
Hey Mark, I wanted to ask you a question. I’ve been reading your posts (which btw very well written as it keeps the reader interested throughout til the end), and you seemed to have tested ICM mix more than anyone else, except maybe Steve himself. The question is, between Ammo and ICM, which one does a better job in grabbing attention or creating attention? My question is based on an assumption that they are somewhat comparable products, but I might be wrong. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2008, 7:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/262 "2008-08-03T19:13:38Z")
Hey Eslite, thank you! I haven’t worn Ammo in a long time, ever since I started playing with and testing custom mixes and concoctions. But, if memory serves me, while Ammo is a great all around attention/attraction product and can be worn just about anywhere and anytime, the ICM’s are more sexual or sensual in nature, depending on whether you’re wearing the 1a or 1b mix, and both are better at grabbing and keeping attention from women. ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2008, 10:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/263 "2008-08-03T22:05:00Z")
Those are good reports of ICM 0.25.1a & the other unmentionable mix product 🙂 That is a huge amount of hits on both reports that you got there mark well girls are coming to you like bees to the honey 😃 Oh yes i wanted to tell you before that i find your reports very well written & very interesting to read 🙂 Btw i know what is that mix product & i’m planning to get it just to let you know 🙄 Reps for both reports & have fun testing out your pheros plus look forward to your next reports 🙂 P.S. Nice new avatar btw 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 12:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/264 "2008-08-04T00:01:57Z")
OK, a real mini report on the unmentionable product. I had to run to the supermarket and thought I’d drop by Blockbuster to pick up a video or two, and figured it’d be a good chance to give the unmentionable product another run. I went to Blockbusters first. The place was pretty slow and there wasn’t anyone there for me to use as a Guinea pig, so I just started going down the aisle and looking for anything that caught my interest. I had gotten to new releases starting with an S, when I noticed a girl looking at videos on the next rack. As I came to that rack she moved almost all the way up against the videos to make room for me. I told her she was fine, and followed that by saying I do the same thing too, but then find I can’t see most of the titles. She laughed and stepped back from the rack to stand at my side and said let’s look together then. We made some small talk about how there haven’t been any really good movies that have come out in awhile, what type of movies we liked and of course the have you seen these movies. As we came to the last of the new releases I had found all of one movie to watch and she didn’t see anything that caught her attention, so as I was going to the checkout we said our goodbyes and parted ways. This was definitely more friendly behavior that I usually get at Blockbusters. At the supermarket I didn’t really notice a whole lot, with the exception of one lady who was pushing her shopping cart down the aisle I was in while I was picking out a few TV dinners. When she paralleled me she stopped right behind me and started looking in the refrigerator door behind me, and as I moved to the next door, I glanced at her and noticed she was looking in one of the freezer windows containing organic foods. As I came to the next window she turned and started looking in the window I had just been at. Then I took a quick look in her shopping cart and noticed that it was stocked with junk food. I thought it a bit odd that she would be looking for organic foods considering what she had in her shopping cart. When I went to checkout I used one of the self service stations, and as I scanned an item with a discount coupon, the stupid register spoke up and said “Customer service required” The clerk came over scanned her card and punched a few buttons to clear the screen. Instead of walking away after clearing the issue, she looked at me smiled and said “her let me” and scanned the rest of my items, then asked if I was paying by cash or card. I told her I’d use cash and she stood there while I inserted the cash and took my change, then she picked up the shopping bags and handed them to me, telling me to have a great day. This was above and beyond the service you normally get at any self checkout I’ve used. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2008, 8:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/265 "2008-08-06T08:06:29Z")
> [@tmoz](#): > > _ **Have you felt any self alterations at all? Change in confidence or mood or anything of that sort?** _ > [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > _ **Good question.** _ _ **I really didn’t notice any self effect, but I may not have been paying close enough attention either in looking for them either. I strongly suspect there was a substantial self effect** _ _ **because as I reported there were a number of strong IOI’s from women well outside of my phero bubble.** _ I can see how you being congruent with the signal you’re projecting and that, in itself, sparking IOI’s outside of your pherobubble. Even if you’re not feelin’ it…you can/do act accordingly 'cause you know what’s contained in the mix and the kind of effect it’s _suppose_ to have on your targets. Not to mention that you a sexy alpha-dude and naturally project that image anyway. 😉 Or maybe, like you said, it effected your behavior and you just didn’t notice 'cause you were more focused on _their_ reactions. > [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > _ **I spoke with SteveO today too, and told him that I hadn’t noticed but felt there must have been definite self effects and why. He said that was an interesting observation and indicated that the mix was developed with that in mind.** _ Hum…that’s interesting, cowboy. I’m not sure I understand that. I think I’ll go and fiqure out something simple…like quantum mechanics. Great reports as usual. 😉 Reps 🙂 Bella ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2008, 7:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/266 "2008-08-09T19:11:57Z")
OK, a summary of Thursday and Friday night out wearing a combination of the 2 products I have from the unmentionable site. Thursday night venue: Cowboys Red River Got to the club and saw 2 girls that I’ve not seen there in months, one is 28 years old and pretty cute, the other just turned 20 years old that day and even though she’s really a little on the young side for me, she’s friggen gorgeous! When I saw them I went over and gave them each a hug hello and asked them where the hell they had been. Both had been in relationships that recently ended, and that’s why they said they hadn’t been coming around. The 20 year old jumped up and sat right next to me and pretty much stuck at my side all evening, while the 28 year old kept going off to talk to other peple she knew and/or go dance. At one point he 20 year old told me about some guy that tried to hit on her the last time she was there and when she didn’t accept his advances he started yelling at her. I then told her about the girl I’d met awhile back who would not leave me alone. The conversation turned even more sexual with her asking me how many girls I’ve hooked up with from the club, if I was seeing anybody now, etc. At one pioint when the band was playing she asked me who sang a song that they were playing. I answered and told her that if she’d give me her e-mail addy I would send it to her. She asked for my cell phone and punched her e-mail address is, then toward the end as the club was closing she asked to see my cell phone again and said I’ll give you my number too, and after she punched it in told me to call or text her. There were also a couple of girls behind me that I would look at me and smile anytime I looked around. One girl started talking with me at one point when the 20 year old had gone to the restroom, asking if she was my girlfriend, then if we came together. I told her that she was just a friend and we weren’t together, and she then asked my name and if I come every week, cause she’s seen me each Thursday night she’s been there. She was apparantly either there with a guy though or at least had been talking and showing interest in him, because while we were talking the guy next to her slid closer to her, put his arm around her and staked a claim, and she didn’t resist. I had IOI’s from a few other girls too, but I had not been paying a whole lot of attention because I had been occupied with the 20 year old. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2008, 8:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/267 "2008-08-09T20:22:43Z")
Mark, that other place has recently stocked a lot of products with Androtics pheromones in their scents. Were the two products you used from those or with “other” pheromones? ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2008, 9:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/268 "2008-08-09T21:23:56Z")
Hey Nbully, thanks for stopping in. The products reported on were not the ones that are now offered with Androtics pheros. I had typed up a lengthly report on Fridays testing with the same mix from Thursday, then as I went to submit it I found that my internet connection had dropped. So instead of typing everything over again, lets just say that I had great results again on Friday at a different club, and wound up with a phone number for this really cute girl that I’d been talking to and getting along great with and I think I could have gotten further, but her friend came over and literally pulled her away from me to go talk to some other guy. I also had a good bit of friendly eye contact with another girl that was at the club with 2 guys. And there were 4 girls sitting at a table near me and I was getting a lot of smiles and eye contact from 2 of them. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2008, 9:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/269 "2008-08-09T21:35:58Z")
Those are great results Mark! Keep posting. I love how you describe the dynamics of your interactions…lot to learn here.🙂 It won’t let me rep you…but I will come back. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2008, 10:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/270 "2008-08-09T22:19:10Z")
Thanks Nbully. I try to be detailed. Like I said I had a really detailed report from Friday but my internet connection dropped before I could submit it. Here’s a quick rundown on the girl that I got the phone number from: I was sitting at the bar and these 2 girls walked over and sat at a table nearby. This goofy guy immediately walks over andhits on them. They didn’t appear to be at all interested but were at least being polite to the guy. He stood there for several minutes and appeard very awkward and glumsy in his approach and attempting to get their interest, and finally walked away looking rather dejected. I saw that as my opening and walked over, put my hands on their shoulders and told them that they at least had to give him credit for trying. This got a laugh and an exchange of names. One girl was absolutely gorgeous and the other was pretty good looking, so I focused in on the better looking one and got to talking to her. She told me that she was from Turkey and had only been in the U.S. for a year, and I complimented her on how well she spoke english. We were getting along really well, and she had this smile that just made you melt. During the evening there were 2 other guys that came over and had tried vying for her attention, but she stayed focused on me. I hadn’t realized it but neither of us were paying any attention to her friend, and toward the end of the night she got tired of it I guess and walked off to the other side of the bar and was talking to another guy. Shrtly after that she comes back and literally pulls the girl I’m talking to away. As she’s being pulled by the arm she give me an apologetic look and off they go. They are sitting at a table accross the bar with the other guy and I noticed that he had blown off the other girl and was trying to zero in on the one that I’d been talking to. I was somewhat irratated but also a little amused cause the girl that dragged her off would have still had the guys attention had she not came over and pulled the girl I was talking to away. About 10 minutes later she comes back over and hands me a matchbook with her phone number, aploogizes for her friends rude behavior and tell me to call her. Then she says that she really doesn’t want to go back over there, but her friend will get mad if she doesn’t. It’s about 30 minutes before closing now and to late to even think about trying to meet anybody else, so I tell her that I really enjoyed talking with her and that I’ll definitely give her a call but since she’s just going to blow me off now I guess that I’m going to take off. This get’s a cute little pouty look out of her and a promise that she’ll make it up to me. Hmmmm, maybe I’m glad now that the friend dragged her away. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2008, 10:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/271 "2008-08-09T22:22:18Z")
And one more little update. I sent a text message to the 20 year old from Thursday night asking if she got the songs I e-mailed her, and that elicited a text back saying she did and thanking me for it. A few texts later, followed up with a phone call and I’m seeing her tonight. 😃 BTW, she’s the one in my new avatar, and the pic does not do her justice. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2008, 10:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/272 "2008-08-09T22:49:39Z")
Renny, thanks for the rep man! Mark, great report as usual. You really have a way with women.😉 ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2008, 10:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/273 "2008-08-09T22:53:47Z")
Oh, I never mentioned why I mixed the 2 products form the other place. One of them is unscented, while the other has a really cool smelling scent, which I would describe as kind of a sweet cinnamon bun type smell. You can not apply all that much of the scented product because the scent is pretty powerful, but both have the same phero molecules and the unscented one is supposed to be more potent. Well, I like the smell of the scented product, but wanted the strength of the unscented one, thus figured mixing them would give me both. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2008, 10:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/274 "2008-08-09T22:59:36Z")
> [@nbully79](#): > > You really have a way with women.😉 After 2 failed marriage and a string of short term relationships, I had to learn something. 😕 The school of life can be a bitch. I still get rejected more often than I succeed, but I don’t let the rejection bother me, and figure every blow off just gets me closer to to someone that’s gonna be interested in me. And, the pheros don’t hurt either! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2008, 11:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/275 "2008-08-09T23:11:31Z")
That’s a great attitude! I wish to adopt the same, your posts provide me a lot of motivation. 🙂 oh..and have fun at the date!! ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2008, 11:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/276 "2008-08-09T23:13:20Z")
I know what you mean about the scent. I picked up a sample pack. Really rich nice smelling stuff, but I’m not much of a scent man, so it really overwhelmed me. Most of androtics stuff is pretty nice cause the smell is fairly subtle. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 6:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/277 "2008-08-10T18:12:06Z")
Saturday night report: Pheros: Same as Thursday and Friday Nights Very strange night last night I met the 20 year old from Thursday night at the club (we’ll call her Minor Girl), and as we walked in another girl that she knew came over and decided to join us. She was pretty cute and I was cool with her joining us, figuring it would keep things light and easy, at least for awhile. When we sat down Minor Girl jumped up and sat next to me, while the other girl stood in front of us. We weren’t there for maybe 10 minutes and the other girl was trying to get me to go dance with her. I told her that I was kinda there with her friend, that I wasn’t much of a dancer, and that I had just ordered drinks and had to wait for the waitress to bring them. So she reaches out and takes my hand and starts dancing in front of me. I look at Minor Girl and we both kind of shrug our shoulders. After she stopped dancing she planted herself firmly between my legs and rested her arms on my thighs. I’m thinking WTF, but Minor Girl doesn’t seem to mind much so I shrug it off. Then she looks up at me and asks me if I’ll pretend to be her boyfriend for a minute. I ask her who she’s trying to avoid and she points toward the door at some guy that just walked in. Minor Girl chimes in and tells me that I know the guy and he’s a regular at the club. So, I say sure why not. Then my “pretend” girlfriend puts her hand on the back of my neck and pulls me into her and sticks her tongue down my throat. After she extracted her tongue from my mouth she says that she was wanting to do that anyway, then turns around and leans back up against me and pulls my arms around her. Minor Girl doesn’t seem all that put out by that little display, but I’m somewhat confused now. The other girl tries to get me to dance again and again I tell her that I’m not much of a dancer. I’m still reeling a little and trying to figure out wtf I want to do. Not much after that the girls said they would be right back and took off, then Minor Girl comes back alone a minute later and jumps back up next to me. She doesn’t say anything about the other girl and I don’t ask. 😉 I ordered myself and Minor Girl another drink (yeah I know, I’m bad). Usually she goes to the restroom with someone over 21 and downs the drink, so when the waitress brought them back I asked her if she wanted me to get someone to escort her to the restroom so she could do her shot. She said “no thats ok, I’ll wait for my friend to come back, she just wanted to find someone to dance with” Several minutes later the friend comes back with a guy in tow, and the girls take off to the restroom, but the guy stays behind. When the girls came back the other girl and the guy were pretty much all over each other for the rest of the night, with the exception of a few times when he walked off or started talking to somebody, and each time he did she would step over and plant herself between my legs again. At one point the guy had his arm around her and she leans over to me asked me if I would get her a drink. I told her that I didn’t think the other guy would like it and she should probably ask him to get her a drink, and she responds by saying “no he’s ok, I told him that you’re my boyfriend” That actually agitated me and I told her yeah right, I don’t think so. We didn’t talk again after that. I was noticing that Minor Girl was playing with her hair a lot all night and at one point I reached over and started stroking her hair, saying that if she was going to play with it then I was too. That got a big smile. Just as I was starting to think that I was back on track with Minor Girl some guy comes over and gives her a hug, takes a look at me, then firmly plants himself between her legs. This guys a regular at the club too and I don’t really think a lot of it, although I was somewhat pissed and knew from the look he gave me and then planting himself between her legs it was totally intended to DLV me. Next thing I know the asshole turns around and starts kissing on her, and she’s right there going at it with him. I sit there for a minute or two then I just got up and walked away. I took a walk around the club and talked to a few people I knew, and after while I came back and all of them were gone. It was getting pretty late and I ended up taking a spot on the other side of the subwoofer box, as I usually do toward the end of the night. Four girls come over and jump up and sit near me and I’m noticing 2 of them throwing a lot of glances my way. A song came on that I really like and I started singing along with it, and one of the girls leans in toward me and starts singing along. I’m thinking OK tonight still might turn out to be an ok night, then half way through the song they all get down and walk away, taking the girl that was singing along with me too. So, now it’s around closing time, and my date? is nowhere to be seen. The other girl that was hanging all over me at the start of the night had found herself another guy and disappeared, and I’m all by myself! ☹ I’m just getting ready to make a round through the club and say goodbye to a few friends that were still there when Minor Girls comes walking back over and says she’s going to leave, gives me a hug and thanks me for everything. I watch her leave the club with the other girl and the guy that the other girl had been messing with all night. What started out to be what I thought was going to be a great night, ended up being pretty shitty! ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 3:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/278 "2008-08-11T03:51:30Z")
Yeah mark - that did end up being a pretty shitty night. Sorry buddy. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 6:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/279 "2008-08-11T06:03:16Z")
> [@bosshank](#): > > Yeah mark - that did end up being a pretty shitty night. Sorry buddy. Yep, sure was! Funny thing though, is that I’ve had like 6 or 7 text messages from Minor Girl today. She thanked me for a great evening, and my initial instinct was WTF are you talking about. Instead I text back and said that I had a great time too and saw several girls that I hadn’t seen in a long time. That last several messages were telling me that we should go to Billy Bobs tonight (Billy Bobs bills themselves as the worlds largest honkey tonk). I responded by saying that I was gonna stay home, be a lazy bum and catch up on some of my TV recordings. I figure I got firmly planted in the friendship or sucker zone last night, and even though I’d be ok with the friendship zone for social proofing, I aint getting branded a sucker, and I aint getting dropped in either zone without a lot of kicking and screaming!!! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 8:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/280 "2008-08-11T08:35:15Z")
Hi Mark! It’s their age. I have a friend who regularly brings younger co workers out with us. They’ll hook up with anyone, any where and in variety too. They annoy the hell out of me in general. Not that I’m an old fogey or don’t think they should have fun, my fun is just different then theirs and I prefer not to be close friends with people younger than my little sister. I’ve had to set boundaries to keep them from bringing an assortment of strangers to my house after the bar if we’re going to meet up there otherwise I have to bounce them out of my driveway. The whole situation has put me off to even my friend who likes to hang out with them I’ve been declining going out with her for quite a while. Maybe I am just too old and married to deal with it. 😛 Sorry your night turned shitty. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431.md?page=13) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431.md?page=15)