# So many tests So little time - My journal **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [November 23, 2007, 4:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431 "2007-11-23T16:53:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 10:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/141 "2008-06-08T22:53:26Z")
BTW, the blonde girl in my avatar now is Rachel. She never did call me back and I haven’t seen her since, so I figure she probably got back together with the ex or met someone else. As soon as I get my camera USB cable back, I’ll post the pic with the 2 girls from last night. ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 11:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/142 "2008-06-08T23:04:31Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > BTW, the blonde girl in my avatar now is Rachel. She never did call me back and I haven’t seen her since, so I figure she probably got back together with the ex or met someone else. > > As soon as I get my camera USB cable back, I’ll post the pic with the 2 girls from last night. Oh i see, i will look forward to see the pic in your avatar buddy 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 3:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/143 "2008-06-09T03:32:42Z")
I want to see Mandy. NSFW pics will suffice. 😉 I picked up a button camera as a “why the hell not?” impulse buy from my gambling winnings and had intended to use it to film my strip club misadventures. Unfortunately, the one time I wore it, the recorder shut off without saving, and then the threads on the button lens cover got stripped out. Gonna hit up this Spy Store place near here and see if I can get a replacement set of lens covers. I know it’s playing with fire, but hell… I’m tired of just talking about Paradise. I wanna show her off. 😉. -D4 ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 5:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/144 "2008-06-09T17:07:46Z")
> [@data4](#): > > I want to see Mandy. NSFW pics will suffice. > -D4 Well, I guess I’ll have to try again then. I tried to take a pic with her last Thursday, and she just wasn’t going for it. Strippers just don’t seem to like to have their pics taken. My first wife was a stripper and I could never get her to take a picture with me either. BTW, the blonde girl is the one I’ve known for awhile (headache girl), and the brunette is the one that I just met Saturday night. ---
**Author:** ![akamahyar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/97f17d/32.png) [@akamahyar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/akamahyar)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2008, 5:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/145 "2008-06-10T05:15:54Z")
Mark, are you serious about your first wife being a stripper? Wouldn’t you be upset when she gave other felas lap dances? ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2008, 11:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/146 "2008-06-10T11:43:48Z")
Yeah I was serious, and no her dancing for others didn’t bother me, because she came home to me. Well, she came home to me until she started having an affair with one of her customers anyway. BTW, I did not meet her in a strip club, and I never went to her club and watched her at work. ---
**Author:** ![tmoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@tmoz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tmoz)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2008, 10:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/147 "2008-06-10T22:27:57Z")
Ahhh Mark. Is there still a ton of work left in SteveO’s ICM website/release? Anything you guys might need help with? ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 12:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/148 "2008-06-11T00:21:42Z")
> [@tmoz](#): > > Ahhh Mark. Is there still a ton of work left in SteveO’s ICM website/release? Anything you guys might need help with? Nope, the website is basically done. It was a very simple site and modeled after the majority of phero sites out there. They obviously work, otherwise they’d be long gone, so why change successful strategies. I don’t think SteveO needs any help right now. It’s all on him now to get everything wrapped up, mixed properly and ready to go. But, he is doing a lot for Androtics right now too. He was working on getting the rewards system working correctly all day, and you can also take a look in the store tomorrow and I’m sure you’ll understand. ---
**Author:** ![tmoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@tmoz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tmoz)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 6:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/149 "2008-06-13T06:59:34Z")
Besides the pre-release Ammo MX’s, is there anything else SteveO might be waiting on to be released before he launches his ICM? And do you know whether if he still plans on going ahead with the 5 mcg’s of none per spray? ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 4:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/150 "2008-06-13T16:20:49Z")
There is still some new stuff to be released, but I don’t think SteveO’s planning on holding back on his ICM release on their releases. He’s just finally getting in all the supplies that he’s been waiting on. As far as the None level, yes the ICM 0.25.1a mix is 5 mcg’s per spray, and is extremely well buffered! ---
**Author:** ![tmoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@tmoz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tmoz)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2008, 10:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/151 "2008-06-14T22:12:19Z")
You’ve had some impressive results using .1b and EST together, nice how the EST seems to really provide that extra sensual kick along on top of the usual .1b effects. Have you gotten a chance to try .1a with EST yet? Oh and what do you think about substituting Turn Up The Heat or a pure androstenone spray for [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) in an EST + ICM Mix? Think too much none kick at once with the faster none diffusion rate will make a rough edged mix? I really want to try this out as soon as the ICM is released. Make SteveO release ICM! =) ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2008, 10:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/152 "2008-06-14T22:17:27Z")
Hey mark, thanks for the tip the other day. works like a charm. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2008, 11:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/153 "2008-06-14T23:21:39Z")
The 1a mix is the Androstenone based sexual mix and I don’t think EST would be a good addition to it. Also, I would not suggest increasing the None level with an alcohol based product, as yes I do think it would become too edgy. The [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) is oil based and has more of a slow build effect. The pre-mixed level is going to be fine for most people anyway. Remember I am 45 years old, have a lower natural None production level than younger folks, and I have also been able to pull off wearing substantially higher levels of None than a lot of others can get away with. As for the 1b mix, It is P83 based, and again I would not add an alcohol based None product to it. I wear Raw Power with it again to substitute for my lower natural None signature. In fact, I wore the 1b mix yesterday with EST, but without Raw Power and had a waitress at Hooters really warm up to me, who has never been quite so friendly before. And, SteveO is working on releasing the ICM’s, but it’s not quite as easy as just saying here it is, buy it. He also has an obligation to Androtics, and is not looking to compete with them. I am pretty sure that he also wants to see some reporting on the MX271 - MX273 series before he releases his ICM’s. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2008, 11:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/154 "2008-06-14T23:32:33Z")
> [@martyk](#): > > Hey mark, thanks for the tip the other day. works like a charm. No problem, which tip did I give? ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2008, 12:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/155 "2008-06-15T00:30:56Z")
I was testing .1b and you said “Good reporting marty. Try bumping up the [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) a good bit 🙂 mark” ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2008, 1:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/156 "2008-06-15T01:06:01Z")
Ah yes, I was thinking that was probably the suggestion you were talking about, but couldn’t quite remember. Damn Alzheimer’s I guess! 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![tmoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@tmoz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tmoz)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2008, 5:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/157 "2008-06-15T05:19:45Z")
Hehe yeah makes sense, the reason why I was wondering how it would work out was because my sweet spot tends to be about 3 sprays Turn Up The Heat when I go out at nights. But yeah you’re right I guess the alcohol diffusion might be a bit too much on top of an already high concentration in ICM. You’re completely right about EST usually not mixing well with none based mixes, but I guess I’m more so just tempted to test it out to see how it would all come together with none being so well buffered (based off your guys reports on this latest mix). Instead of the usual sexuality of none not mixing with the sensuality of EST.. maybe it’ll be a crazy enhancement of them both! _I can dream and hope can’t I? : P_ ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2008, 9:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/158 "2008-06-15T09:09:32Z")
I just got done reading alot of your journal, not every post but alot of it. You have some interesting observations on MX203 and TAL. Even though I don’t go to clubs/bars (yet?), it’s still interesting to read because you seem to have alot of experience and are good at describing reactions. I have a bottle of MX203 and have not tried it yet, but it sounds very interesting and seems to have alot of success for people. Also, TAL sounds like something I might want to experiment with a bit- any ideas on dosages? Also, what does TAH do on a man, have you ever tried that? I noticed a few months ago in a journal log you found that MX203 wore off partly after 2 hours. I wonder if that isn’t the TAA in there losing it’s steam. [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) for me only seems to last strongly for about 2 hours, which is one reason I favor a low dose with frequent re-application (1 spray every couple of hours). Apparrently you also used to live in Tulsa, now we definitely have something in common (I also own several pairs of old cowboy boots, one I bought- two were inherited). I used to live there for a year and some months, but I didn’t get along with my grandparents going to college- too much tension between the two sides of my family trying to “adopt” me and convert me to their ways. It is a nice city but it looks a bit decayed now days and the politics in Oklahoma would probably drive me nuts, even though I miss the city and the nice architecture and people. I visit there occasionally, but the last visit I had wasn’t too pleasant with my grandfather at all- my uncle is cool, though, he has a wierd sense of humor and likes to tease people and we get along OK, our personalities are even alot alike even though our politics are pretty much opposite, the rest of the family is just more bitter and old. Sad to see that happen. ---
**Author:** ![akamahyar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/97f17d/32.png) [@akamahyar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/akamahyar)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2008, 7:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/159 "2008-06-15T19:56:16Z")
hey mark, is what does ammo mx contain? ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2008, 8:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431/160 "2008-06-15T20:16:22Z")
> [@Daedelus76](#): > > Also, what does TAH do on a man, have you ever tried that? > > I noticed a few months ago in a journal log you found that MX203 wore off partly after 2 hours. > > Apparrently you also used to live in Tulsa, now we definitely have something in common. Hey Daerdelus, To be honest, it 's been so long ago that I played with TAL and TAH, that I really couldn’t remember and had to go back and look at some of my posts. And, in looking back, I am definitely going to start playing with TAH and TAL again. I might just throw some TAH in the ICM 0.25.1b mix and see where that takes the mix. As for the [MX203](https://a314.com/product/mx203/), I think that was probably somebody elses posting, as I just got MX203 for the first time last month, and I’ve only worn it twice. And yeah, I did live in Tulsa for a couple of years back in the early 90’s. I really loved that city. The women were just so much more forward and aggressive than they are here in Dallas. Hmm, I might just have to take a drive up there some weekend! 🙂 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431.md?page=7) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-many-tests-so-little-time-my-journal/7431.md?page=9)