# So what would be best to attract her again ? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 6, 2015, 10:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963 "2015-03-06T10:44:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![replay25](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ba0ec/32.png) [@replay25](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/replay25)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 2:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/241 "2015-04-23T14:53:54Z")
Are there any products that could enhance the fallout mix ? I’ve seen many references to TAL / TAH / MX3\*\* (dont remember which one). Would something like A1 or straight up Alphanol be beneficial or just keep what I was using so far and stir it with TUTH when not in the office ?? I was also thinking of just using IH/TUTH, would that be a good combination for my purposes on a more social setting ? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 8:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/242 "2015-04-23T20:15:44Z")
I wouldn’t say those molecules won’t do much more than your IH/P74 combo is already doing for you - In fact all they will likely do is soften/cpmfort the mix further and detract from the trust/bonding/status qualities that are inherent in the IH/P74 and A314/IH/P74 combos. Similarly A1 has a lot of overlap with IH/P74 but although A1 might be a bit more crushy/romantic (your behaviour is important here and so-far its all good) it also has potential negative effects on you and it would completely lack the trust/re-connection/boyfriending properties you get from A314/IH/P74. Both are also good None moderators and together they would drive any sexual element so far back it would be next to pointless. The steering here is a sexual like TUTH and later you might want to introduce something disinhibiting like [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/), arousal-releasing like P96 or Attractive/“pretty” like P86 - but apart from TUTH, you are not at that point yet. The other thing is that you need your base mix to be practical enough to wear thrrought the day and too many elements will make that more difficult. Also, it looks like she’s beginning to respond positively to your current base mix - don’t fuck it up by shifting to another style of mix altogether or confusing it with too many extra molecules. **Fallout needs time and a degree of consistency to develop fully!** If she had not responded well to your current base mix, then would have been the time to change to something else and an A1-based mix would be up for consideration but it is not a beginners phero in any way and you would need to cry-off seeing her for a long time (a lot longer than you have been willing to do so-far) whilst you got your initial testing/dosing/self effects-sorting and mixing worked out. Adding alphanol to your current base mix will kill it dead - A314 in particular is cancelled out by alphanol and the IH/P74 synergy is easily upset by it. Also a large dose of alphanol is not without potential negative self effects - it can leave you feeling burned-out/drained in a similar way to too much IS. It is arguable that you might want to drop to something like IH/TUTH at some point - but not yet and if you do, I would still suggest you keep at least P74 in the mix - then maybe introduce some other steering (mentioned above). ---
**Author:** ![replay25](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ba0ec/32.png) [@replay25](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/replay25)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 9:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/243 "2015-04-24T09:54:16Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > **Fallout needs time and a degree of consistency to develop fully!** So from your personal experience so far what time frames have you been looking at ? I know they will definitely vary, but you might have had an experience with the same emotional weight as I’ve been having in a way so you could have an estimate in mind already. Also do you think fall-out from -mones could develop even if the other party is involved with someone else ? This is my main worry actually, everything seems to be going well but maybe those periods of no contact could introduce someone else in her life, may have happened already as far as I know… Would this be game over or is -phero fall-out such a strong weapon ? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 10:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/244 "2015-04-24T10:33:23Z")
It does vary a lot - from just a handful of exposures to over a year. Really does depend on the subject and their psychological make-up to a very great degree. Most certainly This is one of the main reasons I backed-off using A314/IH/[P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) regularly at work - It was collecting too many attached subjects! However you need to accept and respect that possibility. She’s not with you just now and can do what she wants. Not giving her a break to concentrate her mind on the good things about you and rushing back-in simply because you fear she might find someone else is not an attractive trait and it won’t help either of you get the emotional distance/balance back in a way that restores attraction over anything else. ---
**Author:** ![replay25](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ba0ec/32.png) [@replay25](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/replay25)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 10:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/245 "2015-04-24T10:48:00Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > However you need to accept and respect that possibility. She’s not with you just now and can do what she wants. Not giving her a break to concentrate her mind on the good things about you and rushing back-in simply because you fear she might find someone else is not an attractive trait and it won’t help either of you get the emotional distance/balance back in a way that restores attraction over anything else. I absolutely respect that she is not with me now. I never said anything about another guy or acted jealous in any way. Even when she mentioned she dated a guy I was cool and funny about it… I know that me making a big deal out of her seeing someone would be a total no-no. What I am concentrating on when I am with her so far is being exactly the guy she met 6 months ago, the one she liked and fell for… As long as -pheros can support-enhance that vibe and the sexual attraction is still there, I don’t really need to worry whether she is dating or not, I can most certainly turn things around. Although maybe at some point if nothing happens or she is seriously involved I should just walk out. But should I just disappear or then it would be the time to let her know that I am interested in more than friendship and **then** make my grand exit ? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 2:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/246 "2015-04-24T14:12:10Z")
No - treat it as no-more important than that girl showing you around. Getting yourself back to where you were - And where it is most likely her heart still wants you to be, is by far the best thing you could be doing just now. If she does go head-over heels for someone else then yes you are probably right to back-out and explore other oppertunities for now but given your description of her, IMO its more likely that if the next guy she see goes too fast, she will pull-back just as strongly as she did with you - and even if you are barely in touch, your non-needy/clingy behaviours and attractive personality will be greatly amplified as far as any attraction and good-memories go. And IME, short of severly unpleasant behaviour, a woman’s memories of an ex tend to be weighted toward the good things, not the bad - so again its all to your advantage to be able to step back and not worry. ---
**Author:** ![Ekscentra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@Ekscentra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ekscentra)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 10:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/247 "2015-04-24T22:03:17Z")
> [@replay25](#): > > Are there any products that could enhance the fallout mix ? I’ve seen many references to TAL / TAH / MX3\*\* (dont remember which one). Would something like A1 or straight up Alphanol be beneficial or just keep what I was using so far and stir it with TUTH when not in the office ?? > > I was also thinking of just using IH/TUTH, would that be a good combination for my purposes on a more social setting ? The mix you’re thinking of is MX351, and the -enone containing version MX352 should be added there as well. Both of these are excellent choices. MX351, as far as is known, contains [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/), TAA, and Beta -nol, all solid additions to any fallout mix. ---
**Author:** ![replay25](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ba0ec/32.png) [@replay25](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/replay25)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2015, 10:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/248 "2015-04-25T22:03:37Z")
> [@Ekscentra](#): > > The mix you’re thinking of is MX351, and the -enone containing version MX352 should be added there as well. Both of these are excellent choices. MX351, as far as is known, contains P74, TAA, and Beta -nol, all solid additions to any fallout mix. Yes but [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/)/ TAA / Betanol all exist in my fallout mix anyway, so adding MX351 would not do much right ? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2015, 3:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/249 "2015-04-26T15:12:12Z")
Yup - We don’t know the dose of each in the MX and if you are using an IH/[P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) base mix, you don’t want to be adding products with too much P74 as it will eventually head into “just friendly” territory. Betanol isn’t as much of a problem as the IH steering will take it over to a great extent but you may run the risk of over-moderating the None when you add sexual products. I’m also aware that Betanol is a confirmed component of A314 and that there are strong suppositions of P74 being in there too - but these are at tiny, steering level quantities and won’t greatly affect your overall dosing. However MX351/2 might find a good use as the basis of a more social/sexual mix that will still maintain fallout properties further down the line - however she’s showing good A314 responses too, so for now you don’t want to break that. ---
**Author:** ![replay25](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ba0ec/32.png) [@replay25](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/replay25)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2015, 12:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/250 "2015-04-27T12:07:15Z")
This is what I am thinking for the next time I see her. I will actually go back without telling anyone, surprise all my friends (and her of course). So I will just appear in the office all of a sudden. I am thinking that I will combine this surprise with my basic mix **but** also add I bit of TUTH, to make the blood flowing a bit more. I think with the surprise factor, the TUTH will really get things worked up. What are you thoughts on this tactic ? And after this contact I will not try to see her again, see what she does… ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2015, 1:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/251 "2015-04-27T13:48:37Z")
That sounds just fine - as you suspect, shaking things-up a bit and getting the blood flowing do help a lot and this is one situation where a little TUTH is a good idea, although I’d still keep it fairly low being at work - yo could always add more when you take it social. 🙂 Of course you absolutely **do not** give her the impression you came back just for her - That would be laying the validation-on with a trowel. So do have another plausible reason prepared. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![replay25](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ba0ec/32.png) [@replay25](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/replay25)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2015, 2:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/252 "2015-04-27T14:20:01Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > That sounds just fine - as you suspect, shaking things-up a bit and getting the blood flowing do help a lot and this is one situation where a little TUTH is a good idea, although I’d still keep it fairly low being at work - yo could always add more when you take it social. 🙂 > > Of course you absolutely **do not** give her the impression you came back just for her - That would be laying the validation-on with a trowel. So do have another plausible reason prepared. 😉 Of course I will not say that I went back for her! That is why after my surprise entrance I will absolutely not seek to see her unless she asks… 🙂 And i’ve kept no contact for about 3 days now, should be interesting to see if she will initiate again… ---
**Author:** ![replay25](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ba0ec/32.png) [@replay25](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/replay25)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2015, 6:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/253 "2015-04-28T18:18:50Z")
4th day without any contact. Should I make the first move or wait it out…?? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2015, 6:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/254 "2015-04-28T18:45:58Z")
Wait it out - Keep strong! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![replay25](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ba0ec/32.png) [@replay25](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/replay25)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2015, 7:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/255 "2015-04-28T19:20:35Z")
Will try… But won’t a reminder of me be good ? So you think that all this progress so far means I am in her mind now and then anyway? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2015, 7:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/256 "2015-04-28T19:29:21Z")
Good or not, you need to have her seeking you out as much as possible. She won’t be needing any reminders of you - I doubt very much that her memory is that short! ---
**Author:** ![replay25](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ba0ec/32.png) [@replay25](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/replay25)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2015, 8:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/257 "2015-04-28T20:10:49Z")
Hahaha this is uncanny… She sent a message. In our whats app group not to me. But we don’t really use it anyway… She was asking about everybody’s travel plans. And actually only me and another girl from the group are away… ---
**Author:** ![Smellymen2002](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@Smellymen2002](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Smellymen2002)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 12:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/258 "2015-04-29T00:35:53Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Good or not, you need to have her seeking you out as much as possible. She won’t be needing any reminders of you - I doubt very much that her memory is that short! Exactly! Don’t contact her let her come to you. When you feel that urge to send her a message or something else, go for a walk or read something to take your mind off her. Focus on your own self improvement and if she doesn’t notice your gone, sorry then your dealing with a girl and not a woman. If that is the case then find someone who appreciates you for you, she is out there my friend. ---
**Author:** ![replay25](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ba0ec/32.png) [@replay25](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/replay25)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 8:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/259 "2015-04-29T08:44:09Z")
> [@Smellymen2002](#): > > … if she doesn’t notice your gone, sorry then your dealing with a girl and not a woman. If that is the case then find someone who appreciates you for you, she is out there my friend. I mostly agree with what you are saying, I disagree with this part though. Just because someone doesn’t potentially want to be with you or does not trust you does not mean she is _a girl_ and not a woman… There can be many limiting factors here, never talk in absolutes… All in all, thank you for your advice 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 10:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/260 "2015-04-29T10:06:40Z")
> [@replay25](#): > > Hahaha this is uncanny… She sent a message. In our whats app group not to me. But we don’t really use it anyway… She was asking about everybody’s travel plans. And actually only me and another girl from the group are away… All I wanna know is: Did you respond? IF … you’re sitting home logging in to see if she says or ask anything, you’re hooked. Hell, YOU ARE HOOKED! _chuckle_ At 26, there’s a game going on in the minds of the young. Of course there are exceptions, but for some reason, they all know it. DISTANCE is your best friend. It either brings them back, or they move on. Handing your balls over is a very dangerous thing my friend. We ALL want what we can’t have. IF you play with the young, you have to be prepared to play the games the young play. And some people just never grow old, so … I hope you’re keeping busy, and not trying to keep an eye on her. She probably has secret friends watching and listening. STAND FIRM. Good luck! [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963.md?page=12) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963.md?page=14)