# So what would be best to attract her again ? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 6, 2015, 10:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963 "2015-03-06T10:44:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![replay25](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ba0ec/32.png) [@replay25](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/replay25)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 9:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/121 "2015-03-30T21:24:57Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > So that’s why for the moment, giving her **just enough** exposure to begin to develop a response to your new phero sig but with the bare minimum contact in every other way is the best of the limited range of options option to you IMO. Would passing each other by at the stairs and her saying hello while I nod and smile be considered contact ? I mean [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) wise… ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 12:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/122 "2015-03-31T00:24:08Z")
You are still exposing her to your phero sig, albeit very briefly. I suppose you could regard it as light reinforcement - but the short, confident, attractive interactions you are already having are the more effective - esp as you seem to be reaching her on positive physical and emotional levels. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 12:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/123 "2015-03-31T00:27:08Z")
> [@Dream\_Brother](#): > > In my experience, albeit limited, I would say just acting like she’s just another girl works well. Just an acquaintance you see on a daily basis who you are friendly to. Just like when the female cashier makes small talk, you return it and get on with your day, with no thinking back or second thoughts. If there is truly something there, this should make her wonder why she is no longer being desired. The girl I mentioned before hated it when I just treat her like any other friend, male or female, and went out of her way to initiate contact a lot more. That was _very_ unusual for her, as I was the one making the contact, all the time. This - by the bucketload! FTM, she’s nothing special - just another girl you know. ---
**Author:** ![replay25](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ba0ec/32.png) [@replay25](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/replay25)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 6:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/124 "2015-03-31T06:46:51Z")
Thanks to both of you guys. Pheros or not your advice is the best thing I could have right now, and you are keeping me on the right track here so I won’t act like a needy chump and screw things over… I will be having a small get-together of friends to say our goodbyes, do you think I should tell her to come too ? ---
**Author:** ![replay25](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ba0ec/32.png) [@replay25](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/replay25)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 5:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/125 "2015-03-31T17:30:30Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > This - by the bucketload! > > FTM, she’s nothing special - just another girl you know. I’ve also been getting this “advice” from some, that in her eyes, once a cheater, always a cheater, and she will never want to be with me, blah blah blah… Am I fighting a lost cause here ? You know the story, she always knew about the girlfriend… Of course this still makes me a cheater… ---
**Author:** ![replay25](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ba0ec/32.png) [@replay25](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/replay25)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 8:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/126 "2015-04-01T08:44:30Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > You are still exposing her to your phero sig, albeit very briefly. I suppose you could regard it as light reinforcement - but the short, confident, attractive interactions you are already having are the more effective - esp as you seem to be reaching her on positive physical and emotional levels. So I have a long update… Saw her today, just to ask if I can return something of hers. We ended up hanging and chatting for more than 30 minutes in her office. Had a nice chat, about many things, not about us. Laughed a lot and made jokes. I was touching a bit now and then, even pinched her belly and she was laughing. She told me that she had been on two dates with a guy but did not work out because he decided to go back to his girlfriend (OMG, this is really a bad pattern with her lately…). I acted cool about it and laughed in a friendly way. She also told me that her roommate made an April fool’s joke about me. That she run into me and starting yelling and screaming. And so we decided to make a joke on her too. We will meet during lunch and pass by her roommate’s office together. Then if she asks, she will tell her that we are going to try again maybe… I am very happy that we are friendly and on speaking terms, I just don’t know if this is all just friendly to her or not… ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 11:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/127 "2015-04-01T11:26:28Z")
> [@replay25](#): > > I’ve also been getting this “advice” from some, that in her eyes, once a cheater, always a cheater, and she will never want to be with me, blah blah blah… > > Am I fighting a lost cause here ? You know the story, she always knew about the girlfriend… Of course this still makes me a cheater… I don’t go on that board very often but saw your thread when waiting for an engineer yesterday. You got-off quite lightly! 😮😃 They have a very particuar attitude to women there and it does often colour their advice/responses. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 11:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/128 "2015-04-01T11:34:19Z")
> [@replay25](#): > > So I have a long update… > > Saw her today, just to ask if I can return something of hers. We ended up hanging and chatting for more than 30 minutes in her office. > > Had a nice chat, about many things, not about us. Laughed a lot and made jokes. I was touching a bit now and then, even pinched her belly and she was laughing. > > She told me that she had been on two dates with a guy but did not work out because he decided to go back to his girlfriend (OMG, this is really a bad pattern with her lately…). I acted cool about it and laughed in a friendly way. > > She also told me that her roommate made an April fool’s joke about me. That she run into me and starting yelling and screaming. And so we decided to make a joke on her too. We will meet during lunch and pass by her roommate’s office together. Then if she asks, she will tell her that we are going to try again maybe… > > I am very happy that we are friendly and on speaking terms, I just don’t know if this is all just friendly to her or not… This is all good - and her actions/physicality do speak volumes. 🙂 Just keep yourself back from her a bit and and don’t be constantly giving her attention for the time being and I think all might go very well indeed. ---
**Author:** ![replay25](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ba0ec/32.png) [@replay25](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/replay25)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 12:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/129 "2015-04-01T12:05:49Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > This is all good - and her actions/physicality do speak volumes. 🙂 > > Just keep yourself back from her a bit and and don’t be constantly giving her attention for the time being and I think all might go very well indeed. So we did have lunch together , me, her and her colleagues. And it was actually very nice. I was happy and made everyone laugh, was my usual confident and charming self finally! I was seating across her from the table, caught her looking at me a few times, but I acted aloof and was looking elsewhere while she was trying to hold my gaze. I also noticed she was a bit flushed. before lunch I sprayed some Ammo-to-go on my forearms… Maybe it was just my imagination though. We did look at each other of course a lot of times. When we were going back she told me that it was nice that we could have a nice discussion again. And before saying goodbyes she also repeated that and said she was happy we could have lunch together. During the whole time I was smiley, civil and did not make any sexual remarks or tried to create any sort of tension. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 7:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/130 "2015-04-01T19:45:18Z")
That’s good - and you have some good solid ioi’s and comfort there. Which to me indicate continued attraction. **Now please cut her off for at least a few days** to help all this sink-in for her and to let her feelings begin to run-higher! ---
**Author:** ![replay25](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ba0ec/32.png) [@replay25](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/replay25)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 8:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/131 "2015-04-01T20:20:44Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > That’s good - and you have some good solid ioi’s and comfort there. Which to me indicate continued attraction. > > **Now please cut her off for at least a few days** to help all this sink-in for her and to let her feelings begin to run-higher! Ok so did I fuck up ? I saw her after the gym, she walked with me and my friends and I invited her to my goodbye dinner tomorrow… And she asked if I was sure about it and I said yes why not. Should I have not invited her ? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 8:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/132 "2015-04-01T20:34:31Z")
Personally I’d have left her out - You had already got-in three good exposures in fairly quick succession and now a fourth - Yes, its now at the point where I might expect to see the signs of fallout **beginning** to set-in but this is the shortest break between exposures yet. She needs the periods of withdrawal with absolutely no (or next to no) contact just as much as she needs exposure to the sig. Also, leaving her out might well have triggered some dissonance in her emotions towards you - which is again a great attraction promoter. You really do need her to get the message that she will not normalise you into a “friend” relationship if you want her back as anything more. Are you planning to go-on to a club or anywhere after dinner? If so, take some TUTH (or TUTH/IS) and add it-in to your base mix if you can get her somewhere more uninhibited. That could help things get interesting. ---
**Author:** ![replay25](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ba0ec/32.png) [@replay25](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/replay25)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 8:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/133 "2015-04-01T20:38:46Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Personally I’d have left her out - You had already got-in three good exposures in fairly quick succession and now a fourth - Yes, its now at the point where I might expect to see the signs of fallout **beginning** to set-in but this is the shortest break between exposures yet. She neds the periods of withdrawal with absolutely no (or next to no) contact just as much as she needs exposure to the sig. > > Also, leaving her out might well have triggered some dissonance in her emotions towards you - which is again a great attraction promoter. You really do need her to get the message that she will not normalise you into a “friend” relationship if you want her back as anything more. > > Are you planning to go-on to a club or anywhere after dinner? If so, take some TUTH (or TUTH/IS) and add it-in to your base mix if you can get her somewhere more uninhibited. That could help things get interesting. Well would not another exposure be good? If you think I should not see her again I could cancel it. Also we might go for drinks afterwards but I am not sure yet about it. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 9:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/134 "2015-04-01T21:55:02Z")
Its just that it follows-on so soon after the last one. A gap to let the effects compound would be much better. But you are working to reinforce the trust/responsibility/stability aspect so canceling would go right against that. So yes, go through with it but do your best to go-on somewhere and introduce the sexual (not Ammo) to stir her feelings a little more. After that, do your very best to not see her and minimise any other contact for a bit. ---
**Author:** ![replay25](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ba0ec/32.png) [@replay25](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/replay25)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 10:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/135 "2015-04-01T22:54:40Z")
well it will be the last time I will see her before I go anyway. So next time I see her will be after a month. So during dinner you think I should just be casual right ? ---
**Author:** ![replay25](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ba0ec/32.png) [@replay25](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/replay25)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 7:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/136 "2015-04-02T07:07:52Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > So yes, go through with it but do your best to go-on somewhere and introduce the sexual (not Ammo) to stir her feelings a little more. So I will use TUTH on top of my basic A314/IH/p74 mix ? I guess application points could be over the other two sprays right ? Also should I even start the dinner wearing the TUTH ? Or just add it later ? For my basic mix I know I should act just friendly and casual. But should I change attitude when I add the TUTH ? Be more flirty and sexual ? Or I should just step back and let the mones do the work, invoking potentially sexual feelings to which I should not act ? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 9:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/137 "2015-04-02T09:07:33Z")
> [@replay25](#): > > well it will be the last time I will see her before I go anyway. So next time I see her will be after a month. So during dinner you think I should just be casual right ? Yes - relaxed. You have been hitting the spot with her every time so far, so just continue in that vein. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 9:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/138 "2015-04-02T09:11:09Z")
> [@replay25](#): > > So I will use TUTH on top of my basic A314/IH/p74 mix ? I guess application points could be over the other two sprays right ? > > Also should I even start the dinner wearing the TUTH ? Or just add it later ? > > For my basic mix I know I should act just friendly and casual. But should I change attitude when I add the TUTH ? Be more flirty and sexual ? Or I should just step back and let the mones do the work, invoking potentially sexual feelings to which I should not act ? Yes, sprays can be layered together just fine. Avoid spraying over oils though. No, not unless you plan to put your cock on the table and have her eat that! Save it for when you get to the bar/club and maybe be ready to increase your dose again if needed. Yes, Whilst I wouldn’t go full-on sexual straight away, I would up the tension slightly, see how she’s responding and adjust your behaviour apace. You know better than any of us how her arousal normally presents itself, so let that be your guide. ---
**Author:** ![replay25](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ba0ec/32.png) [@replay25](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/replay25)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 9:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/139 "2015-04-02T09:14:05Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Yes, sprays can be layered together just fine. Avoid spraying over oils though. > > No, not unless you plan to put your cock on the table and have her eat that! Save it for when you get to the bar/club. > > Yes, Whilst I wouldn’t go full-on sexual straight away, I would up the tension slightly, see how she’s responding and adjust your behaviour apace. You know better than any of us how her arousal normally presents itself, so let that be your guide. What if I don’t get the chance to go for drinks/bar ? Should I use something like Ammo during dinner then ? Or even then just a small amount of TUTH would be good to bring a sexy vibe ? I have the to-go version of tuth. What would be your recommendation dosage wise ? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 9:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963/140 "2015-04-02T09:20:32Z")
In that case, I would think on adding just a small amount of TUTH towards the end of dinner - just to see how she responds/shake things-up a little. And in that situation, I wouldn’t up your pace sexually a lot. I’d use TUTH rather than Ammo because your base mix will provide ample moderation that will hold the TUTH in balance. Using an already balanced product like Ammo won’t add much other than scent. Also, the small amount of Alphanol in Ammo is not particularly helpful to fallout mixes, so beyond a spray for scent, I’d tend to avoid it altogether. As for TUTH dose, I wouldn’t go too high, initially - maybe two sprays till you see how she reacts, you can add more if needed. If its somewhere more uninhibited, wild, loud, with dancing etc and she’s obviously having fun you could maybe dose a bit higher. Mood is an important influencing factor. Then once you are away, you need to have some fun for yourself and do some proper sweet spot testing to find your best dose. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963.md?page=6) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-what-would-be-best-to-attract-her-again/63963.md?page=8)