# SOE vs ANDROTICS NOL SPRAYS

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [November 26, 2005, 4:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/soe-vs-androtics-nol-sprays/58 "2005-11-26T04:58:09Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 14, 2005, 7:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/soe-vs-androtics-nol-sprays/58/17 "2005-12-14T19:52:37Z")

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> [@josef](#):
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> i didn’t forget to use the divider, i didn’t know it was there 😃  
> thanks for the assistance.
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> looking back on some of the first posts i read here, i do have more  
> faith now in the dosed product. maybe faith isn’t the right word, but perhaps a better understanding of why a dose may be necessary and beneficial.

The lack of design in most products just blows me away.

Even a little bit of forethought of design helps a lot. People really took to the iPod.

> [@josef](#):
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> just thinking about these calculations (basic as they may be for some), leads me to believe that we are probably 10 years or so away from the real "_coming of age"_ for supplemental synthetic pheromone use.

There will probably be several.

According to Alvin Toffler’s observations, author of The Third Wave, we should hit our first revolution very soon. It’s about that time, after the introduction of Andron. No dount the revolutionary modular, dosed products we’ve designed, including ExperiMone for the more technical users, will help create a renaissance in pheromone experimentation and mixing.

Then, according to Toffler, it’ll be another 20-30 years for the next major wave. The really big one, with complete and total mass awareness (so for current users who worry about “too many people finding out”, well, I wouldn’t worry another few decades if I were you!) However, I think something like Moore’s law may kick in sooner than that for the technology itself, even if social awareness doesn’t.

Even the internet, as ubiqituous as it seems to us, isn’t everwhere yet, or even understood by much of the world’s population. (one reasons we give to charities like [Trickle Up](http://trickleup.org/), to help the rest of the world get on the same page as first world countries)

> [@josef](#):
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> i base that only on the seemingly incomprehensible number of combinations of pheromone products available multiplied by the number and accurateness of the hit reports that follow from their use in all the various stages of daily life, healthy or ill, fit or unfit, showered or not, depressed or happy, application points, and ultimately the incomprehensibly complicated task of observing and relaying information regarding the people that were either affected or not, etc.

Yes, there’s an amazing array of variables.

The observation and communication of effects, itself, I feel will help people better understand themselves and others better. The mental task alone of figuring “is it me or the pheromones?” can really build some incredible mental muscles over time.

Many first time users go in relatively unaware of their environment, of their own mind states and those of others… and after a short while, they start to become masters of observation, and sorting between what is “objective” and “subjective”. Becoming involved in pheromone usage and experimentation is incredibly healthy for your own psyche.

> [@josef](#):
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> i look for opportunities on a daily basis to experiment with each of the dozen or so pheromone products i have and ultimately what i really want is a product that makes all healthy cute petite blonde girls smile at me and i’ll do the rest. that’s not asking too much is it? 😉

You can get that! It’s pretty easy. Here’s one mix of many mixes that will give that to you:

100mcg anol, 1-2 drops A314, 3 - 5mcg androstenone, and 1-2 sprays of Shine V1.

There’s simpler things you can do, too. A314 is a healthy girl magnet, and “plain ol’” ANOL can get the smiles.

I recommend Shine because it will make you feel great and smile, which automatically affects others through a behavioral feedback loop.

Extra androstenone is optional. I usually keep it pretty low myself.

> [@josef](#):
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> speaking of cute blonde girls, i was scanning the MLS in my area today for possible investment properties in my neighborhood and i stopped at one house in particular because the agent was cute and blonde. naturally i emailed her about the house so that she would call me and when she did i kept her on the phone for a good while, talking about the house and my requirements etc. we set up a showing for tomorrow afternoon at that house and at least one other after that. the first house is only a couple of blocks away so i will be walking there to meet her and she will be driving me to the next house and bringing me home.
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> i’ve been waiting for an opportunity to try each of my androtics products solo but i can’t decide which will be my starter tomorrow and which ones will ride the bench. 😕

Sounds like a good time.

I’d go as close to possible as what was mentioned above.

A314 provides incredible masculine warmth, and ANOL is the loosey goosey pheromone of choice (right now, anyway, as there’s another that will be coming up in the next year).

Shine also adds a lot to the good feelings, and seems to hint at sexuality to women (some users have noted that it has some of the positives of androstenone).

It’s also tough to truly OD on any of the above. Small amounts work, but high amounts don’t hurt.

I would avoid extra androstenone at all costs, unlike you have a microdose product, like MicroNone.

Usually you want to ramp up the androstenone over time… Maybe a 1-3mcg at first, then 5, then 7… that of thing…

_slooooowly_… turning… up… The Heat.

Even “Turn Up The Heat” should be relegated to a second or third meeting, preferably one that’s framed with at least some suggestion of personal interest. (even “would you like to go out for coffee later?” is enough to indicate interest beyond business)

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