# Solo Tests: Summer Ammo, P83, & TAC **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 19, 2012, 1:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/solo-tests-summer-ammo-p83-tac/56785 "2012-09-19T13:51:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rohitiyer10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ad7895/32.png) [@rohitiyer10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rohitiyer10)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 1:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/solo-tests-summer-ammo-p83-tac/56785/1 "2012-09-19T13:51:45Z")
Taken from my journal: [A Journal w/ a hint of Brown Magic - #48 by rohitiyer10](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-journal-w-a-hint-of-brown-magic/6511/48) > [@](#): > > Quick update of last few days of solo tests before going out to some great events for the next few days: > > Summer Ammo: It should be called Instant Younger-Chicks-All-Up-In-Your-Space-…mone. Seriously had dirty looks from some under 18yr olds…and I’m done invading that mess if you catch my drift… > > Smell is way less obnoxious than ammo (until normal ammo dries down of course) but in the end, lacks the punch ammo has. Nice smelling though. I like the subtlety it has scentwise, but think it needs a bit more punch. Will be adding some tuth w/ it next time. > > p83: wow…people (women especially) will not leave you alone. Biggest thing is after I’ve already talked to the women and moved on: Bunch have followed me, cornered me, and propositioned me for some private bathroom time right then and there. And while that’s not unusual, there are just more and more coming out and asking. > > TAC: Very different. Had no idea what it did as I like to go in blind with testing new mones, but it made everyone around me relaxed but not in a “let’s just chill” mood, more relaxed in the sense that they were able to approach me and talk about whatever they wanted. One girl even said that before I came in, she was just tense and worried about something, and after I made it to her area of the bar she just eased up and even felt compelled to talk to me. > > Similar in p83 in that people want to connect with you in some way, but different in that p83 just seems straight sexual. Like in your face, can talk about whatever they want and how dirty they want it type of reaction. TAC seems to let people open up, but needs to be steered a bit if you want it to produce more sexual results. Overall I got quite the relaxed vibe from people around me. > > Soo… p83 + TAC + ammo/tuth = rape? > > Don’t worry, I’ll test it 😉 > > Oh and don’t tell me what you guys have experienced if you’ve used this combo as I like to test for myself w/o outside influence. But I am open to your thoughts on p83 and tac when you’ve tried them. ---
**Author:** ![rohitiyer10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ad7895/32.png) [@rohitiyer10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rohitiyer10)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 1:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/solo-tests-summer-ammo-p83-tac/56785/2 "2012-09-19T13:52:27Z")
Also, curious to see what [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) could do to either p83, TAC, or P83 + TAC another test for another day i suppose ---
**Author:** ![johnny360](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnny360](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/johnny360)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 2:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/solo-tests-summer-ammo-p83-tac/56785/3 "2012-09-19T14:04:14Z")
> [@rohitiyer10](#): > > Taken from my journal: [A Journal w/ a hint of Brown Magic - #48 by rohitiyer10](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-journal-w-a-hint-of-brown-magic/6511/48) I laughed at the last few line. would def be keeping eye out for your updates ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 2:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/solo-tests-summer-ammo-p83-tac/56785/4 "2012-09-19T14:09:07Z")
How many sprays/mcgs of each did you use? What application points do you use, or did you apply everything to your neck? Your guess of the age ranges of those TOUCHED by your magic? And was this your findings of this mix from lots of testing, or a ONE HIT WONDER? Either, or … AWESOME SHARING, and so deserving of, Roh!!! 😉 Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![rohitiyer10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ad7895/32.png) [@rohitiyer10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rohitiyer10)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 11:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/solo-tests-summer-ammo-p83-tac/56785/5 "2012-09-20T11:38:18Z")
p83 @ 30mcgs TAC @ 20mcgs [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/): 2 sprays of normal strength. Ages 21+ for p83 and tac and ages 16+ for SE Ammo ---
**Author:** ![Aegis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f17d59/32.png) [@Aegis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aegis)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 7:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/solo-tests-summer-ammo-p83-tac/56785/6 "2012-09-21T07:26:39Z")
While waiting for my order of P83 & TAC and some other stuff I stumbled upon this thread, because thats exactly the mix I’m planning to test 😃 I’m looking forward to hear about your results! How about a mix of TAC, P83 and [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/)? I’m going to try the mix with SAammo, TUTH & P75 😃 ---
**Author:** ![rohitiyer10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ad7895/32.png) [@rohitiyer10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rohitiyer10)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2012, 10:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/solo-tests-summer-ammo-p83-tac/56785/7 "2012-09-23T22:39:30Z")
> [@Aegis](#): > > While waiting for my order of P83 & TAC and some other stuff I stumbled upon this thread, because thats exactly the mix I’m planning to test 😃 > > I’m looking forward to hear about your results! > > How about a mix of TAC, P83 and P75? I’m going to try the mix with SAammo, TUTH & P75 😃 Don’t have P75 or at least I don’t think I do, may have to check my pherostash. Tested P79 - Very different. Doesn’t seem to have it’s own ‘flavor’ so to speak but seems to intensify moods maybe? Haven’t tested it w/ other mones yet but I’m expecting a slight property specific boosts (aka [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) = Instant Shinier…etc). Ya so I tested p83 @ 60 mcg + TAC @ 20 mcg Holy OMG. Not sure if you can picture this but one of the many hits = Cougar slide tackling the side of my neck all the way up to my ear with her tongue while I was in a conversation with 2 other women and then said she didn’t know why but she just needed a taste. I was honestly worrying about the weekend and testing the addition of summer ammo, ammo, and tuth each on different days. Onto the rape… I mean addition of none. p83 + TAC + Summer Ammo = 24 and under crowd acted like they NEEDED me. I was getting pulled every which way at this 18+ club. Lost count of how many times my crotch and my ass were grabbed, patted, other verbage similar. The more alpha the girl was, the more intense the hit seemed which was weird as I thought the quiet ones would be the ones showing signs of more intense hits, but then again I don’t know if I was able to lock in on women for more than 30 sec at a time. Felt like I was thrown around like a female sex toy. p83 + TAC + Ammo = 23-35 (i think 35 at least). IOIs out the ass. Sexual banter was the majority of the conversation after the initial approach by either me or the woman/women. Lots of women overtly staring below the belt as well. One woman who was a bit drunk asked me if I’d grab her tits and suck on them… p83 + TAC + TUTH = Puma/cougar/cougar+ territory. And rape. End of story. One interesting thing to note - Women were noticeably louder during sex, like burst your eardrum loud. Also seemed to have multiple orgasms faster and more intense… at least I think. Definite increase in overall wetness as compared to sex w/ most other combos or no pheros at all. They also seem to want it harder and faster… AND they all climbed on top of me and rode the shit out of me. 2 of them couldn’t even wait for me to pull my boxers down or put a condom on and seemed to have the first orgasm in like 15-20 sec. ---
**Author:** ![Aegis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f17d59/32.png) [@Aegis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aegis)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2012, 11:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/solo-tests-summer-ammo-p83-tac/56785/8 "2012-09-23T23:53:56Z")
Great post sir! I’m extremely exited to test the same combos to confirm your results once they arrive. Had a great time reading your experiments, hilarious 😃 If it works that well for me too, it will be baptized “Instant Rape”, in honor of the sacrifices your ass has made. Of these mixes: which one is your favorite? and which one brought the most hits? What was the dosing of -none pheros, and did you use the same amount of p83 & tac in all tests? The orgasm thing was reported earlier in the women’s section I think. TAC seems to make women enjoy the moment more in a more relaxed state. Some men also reported more intensive orgasm, do you concur? I’m jumping up and down like a little boy here ^^ great post man, keep it coming! If you got more testing with the [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) rape mix I’m very interested in hearing your results! Yep - and one more thing: Have you tested these during the day time? How has the reactions of the uglier gender been? ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 5:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/solo-tests-summer-ammo-p83-tac/56785/9 "2012-09-24T05:04:16Z")
> [@rohitiyer10](#): > > Don’t have P75 or at least I don’t think I do, may have to check my pherostash. > > Tested P79 - Very different. Doesn’t seem to have it’s own ‘flavor’ so to speak but seems to intensify moods maybe? Haven’t tested it w/ other mones yet but I’m expecting a slight property specific boosts (aka Instant Shine = Instant Shinier…etc). > > Ya so I tested p83 @ 60 mcg + TAC @ 20 mcg > > Holy OMG. Not sure if you can picture this but one of the many hits = Cougar slide tackling the side of my neck all the way up to my ear with her tongue while I was in a conversation with 2 other women and then said she didn’t know why but she just needed a taste. I was honestly worrying about the weekend and testing the addition of summer ammo, ammo, and tuth each on different days. > > Onto the rape… I mean addition of none. > > p83 + TAC + Summer Ammo = 24 and under crowd acted like they NEEDED me. I was getting pulled every which way at this 18+ club. Lost count of how many times my crotch and my ass were grabbed, patted, other verbage similar. The more alpha the girl was, the more intense the hit seemed which was weird as I thought the quiet ones would be the ones showing signs of more intense hits, but then again I don’t know if I was able to lock in on women for more than 30 sec at a time. Felt like I was thrown around like a female sex toy. > > p83 + TAC + Ammo = 23-35 (i think 35 at least). IOIs out the ass. Sexual banter was the majority of the conversation after the initial approach by either me or the woman/women. Lots of women overtly staring below the belt as well. One woman who was a bit drunk asked me if I’d grab her tits and suck on them… > > p83 + TAC + TUTH = Puma/cougar/cougar+ territory. And rape. End of story. > > One interesting thing to note - Women were noticeably louder during sex, like burst your eardrum loud. Also seemed to have multiple orgasms faster and more intense… at least I think. Definite increase in overall wetness as compared to sex w/ most other combos or no pheros at all. They also seem to want it harder and faster… AND they all climbed on top of me and rode the shit out of me. 2 of them couldn’t even wait for me to pull my boxers down or put a condom on and seemed to have the first orgasm in like 15-20 sec. Yes, I, too, would like to know if you used **60 mcgs of [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/)** and **20 mcgs of TAC** in each test above, Roh? If so, did you notice a BIG difference when you used higher mcgs of P83? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![rohitiyer10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ad7895/32.png) [@rohitiyer10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rohitiyer10)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 9:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/solo-tests-summer-ammo-p83-tac/56785/10 "2012-09-24T09:30:41Z")
Ya stayed at 60 and 20 respectively. 60 vs 30 was a huge jump… didn’t even make sense. It was like at 30 the ones that wanted that little push to get sexual got it, but the majority of others were right on the verge. 60 = the majority only see you as a piece of meat especially if used w/ none as it steers them into that frame. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 11:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/solo-tests-summer-ammo-p83-tac/56785/11 "2012-09-24T11:21:12Z")
> [@rohitiyer10](#): > > Ya stayed at 60 and 20 respectively. 60 vs 30 was a huge jump… didn’t even make sense. > > It was like **at 30 the ones that wanted that little push to get sexual got it** , but the majority of others were right on the verge. 60 = **the majority only see you as a piece of meat** especially if used w/ none as it steers them into that frame. That sounds like a GRANDE difference using 30 mcgs, and then 60 mcgs of [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/)!! 😮 Thanks! Has anyone else playing with P83 noted such a difference!?!? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 12:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/solo-tests-summer-ammo-p83-tac/56785/12 "2012-09-24T12:25:59Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > That sounds like a GRANDE difference!! 😮 Thanks! > > Has anyone else playing with P83 noted such a difference!?!? 😛 Yes, with [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) and Androstenone things become very animalistic, P83 definitely steers it in that direction, you need a quite an amount of it though, at least 30mcg - P83 without Androstenone is a bit more sensual, erotic, sensitive etc… ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 2:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/solo-tests-summer-ammo-p83-tac/56785/13 "2012-09-24T14:16:01Z")
> [@still18](#): > > Yes, with P83 and Androstenone things become very animalistic, P83 definitely steers it in that direction, you need a quite an amount of it though, at least 30mcg - P83 without Androstenone is a bit more sensual, erotic, sensitive etc… Thanks! And I’m sorry about that, Still; but I was talking about noting a difference between 30 and 60 mcgs of [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/). I’ve made the pen and ink change. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 6:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/solo-tests-summer-ammo-p83-tac/56785/14 "2012-09-25T18:46:29Z")
TAC SELF effects please… anyone experience them? What are they? If woman are more easy to orgasm does that mean as men you are also way more relaxed too? Or are you hyped up nervous etc and they are relaxed? ---
**Author:** ![rohitiyer10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ad7895/32.png) [@rohitiyer10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rohitiyer10)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 8:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/solo-tests-summer-ammo-p83-tac/56785/15 "2012-09-25T20:29:07Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > TAC SELF effects please… anyone experience them? What are they? If woman are more easy to orgasm does that mean as men you are also way more relaxed too? Or are you hyped up nervous etc and they are relaxed? Doesn’t make sense. Where did you get I was hyped up and nervous? I don’t get self effects from TAC, or overt ones for that matter. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 9:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/solo-tests-summer-ammo-p83-tac/56785/16 "2012-09-26T09:28:39Z")
> [@rohitiyer10](#): > > Where did you get I was hyped up and nervous? I don’t get self effects from TAC, or overt ones for that matter. No I didn’t read you were nervous or hyped up I just meant in order for TAC to work its magic a man would have to be pretty alert and in the moment to satisfy all those incredible hits. BTW how does TAC do in the daytime especially in the summer ammo, p83, tac mix? ---
**Author:** ![rohitiyer10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ad7895/32.png) [@rohitiyer10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rohitiyer10)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 10:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/solo-tests-summer-ammo-p83-tac/56785/18 "2012-09-26T10:16:46Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > No I didn’t read you were nervous or hyped up I just meant in order for TAC to work its magic a man would have to be pretty alert and in the moment to satisfy all those incredible hits. > > BTW how does TAC do in the daytime especially in the summer ammo, p83, tac mix? Not sure about being way too alert but I’m a lot more aware and in the moment so it’s more natural now as to when and how I feel like responding to hits. I think that’d still be a great daytime mix as summer ammo isn’t sexual and p83 isn’t none sexual. ---
**Author:** ![Cjohnson446](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/958977/32.png) [@Cjohnson446](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cjohnson446)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 6:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/solo-tests-summer-ammo-p83-tac/56785/19 "2012-09-28T06:41:43Z")
More updates on the 60mcg [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/)! ---
**Author:** ![rohitiyer10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ad7895/32.png) [@rohitiyer10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rohitiyer10)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 1:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/solo-tests-summer-ammo-p83-tac/56785/20 "2012-09-28T13:53:09Z")
> [@Cjohnson446](#): > > More updates on the 60mcg P83! Haha.. ya 60 is great. I’ll be testing 60 + refreshing it later on. Been testing a combo w/ more mones than I ususally run with and have gotten some good results so far. Will be posting up a week/2week recap on sunday in my journal. For now, any chick (21-29 were best hits) that comes close to me turns her head. Great respect vibe from men as well. ---
**Author:** ![Mysterion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mysterion/32/986_2.png) [@Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mysterion)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 9:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/solo-tests-summer-ammo-p83-tac/56785/21 "2012-09-28T21:47:57Z")
Excuse me, but what exactly would you recommend now? P83 30mcg or 60mcg? I have a 30mcg here. Usage: daygaming. Meaning attracting, comforting and seducing females outside of clubs or bars. My other mones are [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), IShine, IO, Tuth. All in normal dosage. edit: 2 sprays of 30mcg would have the same effect as 1 spray of 60mcg, am I right? [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/solo-tests-summer-ammo-p83-tac/56785.md?page=2)