# Some help please...

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-help-please/25470>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [January 28, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-help-please/25470 "2009-01-28T18:51:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![ps86651](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ps86651/32/206_2.png) [@ps86651](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ps86651)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-help-please/25470/1 "2009-01-28T18:51:50Z")

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Hi there forum buddies..

I have a problem (little or large, depending on your take). I have been invited to a party on Saturday evening at a friends place. Nothing out of the ordinary there, but what will be unusual for me is one particular guest who will be present at the party…my EX.

We split some time back because of my flying career and how she wanted someone who could be there for her all the time. Obviously I couldn’t do that but totally understood her position. It’s something which always gets in the way of my relationships, so we had a series of discussions and eventually decided to part amicably.

Anyways, she started dating some other guy relatively quickly (a couple of weeks after our split) and since then, has been extolling the virtues of this dude, how he’s always there for her day and night, how he comes running to her whenever she needs him, how he’s always picking her up and dropping her off to work, how he’s..blah blah blah whatever. In addition to this, I’ve found out that she’s specifically targeting me with some other negative comments about me to our mutual friends, which really pissed me off.

Anyways I want to wear something that will blow her out of the water on Saturday night, do you know what I mean? I want her to think “Ok I have this beta-boy as my current boyfriend who will do anything for me, but shit, he (i.e. me) was really amazing, I sure miss being with him”. I DON’T want to make out / screw her since she’s with someone and I don’t have anything against him (seems like a decent-enough low-key guy), but I want to be in a position where with some work, I could DO so if I so pleased.

I currently have: A314, MX292, IS, IH, IFM, [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/)

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated…as always, a full report will follow once the party is over!

Take care..

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**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 9:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-help-please/25470/2 "2009-01-28T21:21:59Z")

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Personally I would go with a mega-dose of A314 and a little IS+IH

A314 signals that you are a VIP, exactly what you want her to think.

Add a good dose of IS to help ensure that you make yourself the center of the party and a couple sprays of IH for good conversations.

Then play it up and make sure you are one social motherfucker - sit in the corner and all is lost.

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 9:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-help-please/25470/3 "2009-01-28T21:32:28Z")

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You want 2-3 drops of A314 and 3-4 sprays of MX292.

Look at my two MX292 reports. The second one in particular was with 2 drops of A314.

She may well regret her decision come Saturday night. But then again there a couple reasons women want guys they can completely control and none of them are good.

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**Author:** ![JohnnyPaper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnypaper/32/338_2.png) [@JohnnyPaper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyPaper)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 9:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-help-please/25470/4 "2009-01-28T21:38:22Z")

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This sounds like revenge…which is OK. However, I must say this guy you describe that is waiting on her hand and foot is apparently what she wanted, and also who you are NOT. Why don’t you do like Easy-E mentioned and “Throw it in the gutter and go buy another!”…of course that was when he wrapped his 64 around a telephone pole and we are talking about women. Anyway, you really wanna get her…get a hot girl on your arm and bring her to the party and act like you are the man and she could burn for all you care…She will come running if that’s what you want!😃

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 9:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-help-please/25470/5 "2009-01-28T21:42:38Z")

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> [@JohnnyPaper](#):
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> Anyway, you really wanna get her…get a hot girl on your arm and bring her to the party and act like you are the man and she could burn for all you care…

The best revenge is often to live well.

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**Author:** ![JohnnyPaper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnypaper/32/338_2.png) [@JohnnyPaper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyPaper)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 9:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-help-please/25470/6 "2009-01-28T21:44:37Z")

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> [@bosshank](#):
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> The best revenge is often to live well.

Yes you are right, but hey let’s have a little fun! 😃

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**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 10:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-help-please/25470/7 "2009-01-28T22:06:58Z")

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Just guesswork based on your age but I would try this out a couple of days before the party, if it works, it should have the desired effect!

2 drops A314  
3 sprays MX292  
30mcg [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/).

It sounds to me as if she is trying to get under your skin (I’ll leave it to you to figure out why, possibly regretting her decision?) In any event, be nice to the guy, go out of your way to say hello to him, do the alpha guy thing. It will either piss her off or she will realise that you’ve moved on, think of it as trolling for an ex, dangle the bait then snatch it away

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 4:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-help-please/25470/8 "2009-01-29T04:06:49Z")

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> [@JohnnyPaper](#):
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> Yes you are right, but hey let’s have a little fun!

Don’t misunderstand - I was agreeing with you. Show up with a hot babe on your arm, be very gracious and polite as Diamond points out - if not a little condescending, alpha style - and then have a good time and ignore them.

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**Author:** ![ps86651](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ps86651/32/206_2.png) [@ps86651](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ps86651)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 3:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-help-please/25470/9 "2009-01-29T15:32:56Z")

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> [@bosshank](#):
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> Don’t misunderstand - I was agreeing with you. Show up with a hot babe on your arm, be very gracious and polite as Diamond points out - if not a little condescending, alpha style - and then have a good time and ignore them.

Thanks gents for the suggestions. I must say, MX292+[P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/)+A314 seems like a potent combination. I think I will go for a 3 spray - 1 spray - 2 drop combo to see how it all goes.

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**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-help-please/25470/10 "2009-01-29T16:07:11Z")

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I would even add more A314 and a little IS to that (3-4 drops A314 + 2 sprays IS)

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**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 4:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-help-please/25470/11 "2009-01-29T16:11:28Z")

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I would say 2 drop of A314 and 4 to 5 spray of IFM and 3 to 4 shot of IH and cover all with IS 3 to 5 sprays.😛

that right there should get her thinking oh ya and act cool and chill like go up to her and say hi and give her little hug and walk right off. 😃

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**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 10:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-help-please/25470/12 "2009-01-29T22:38:11Z")

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I’m REALLY curious to read how this is going to play out. My ex keeps trying to go out of her way to show off the one or two guys she’s dated since our split. Of course, I usually make up for it by seducing the hell out of her and reminding her that I still know precisely what she likes. Nothing boosts the ego like “He drives a brand new Jetta? Phssh… big whoop. I’m still fucking you.” 😉

-D4

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**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 10:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-help-please/25470/13 "2009-01-29T22:54:00Z")

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> [@data4](#):
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> I’m REALLY curious to read how this is going to play out. My ex keeps trying to go out of her way to show off the one or two guys she’s dated since our split. Of course, I usually make up for it by seducing the hell out of her and reminding her that I still know precisely what she likes. Nothing boosts the ego like “He drives a brand new Jetta? Phssh… big whoop. I’m still fucking you.” 😉
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> -D4

Sweet,

D4, you bad!

Seriously, why do women insist on trying to rub your nose in it with the new guy? If it’s over, it’s over, we’ve moved on 😕

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**Author:** ![ps86651](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ps86651/32/206_2.png) [@ps86651](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ps86651)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 12:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-help-please/25470/14 "2009-01-30T00:04:17Z")

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> [@diamond](#):
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> Sweet,
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> D4, you bad!
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> Seriously, why do women insist on trying to rub your nose in it with the new guy? If it’s over, it’s over, we’ve moved on 😕

Exactly man - couldn’t agree more. I guess she just needs some way of justifying why our relationship ended and the new one started. Hopefully, with the fantastic input and recommendations that you guys have given, she’ll be more confused than Bush in a math class…

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**Author:** ![HADYOU](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hadyou/32/1458_2.png) [@HADYOU](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HADYOU)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 8:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-help-please/25470/15 "2009-02-03T20:54:54Z")

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😕

> [@ps86651](#):
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> Exactly man - couldn’t agree more. I guess she just needs some way of justifying why our relationship ended and the new one started. Hopefully, with the fantastic input and recommendations that you guys have given, she’ll be more confused than Bush in a math class…

Similiar situation here in a way, I have instant gentleman, instant honesty, instant shine, TUTH, mx292, p74, cometalk to me, instant openness.

Would gentleman and mx292 instant honesty, shine, maybe one or 2 drops of A134 be a good combo? or would TUTH be good or bad in this area also with casual visits for lunch so she can see our son? her blood type if it helps is 0-

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**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-help-please/25470/16 "2009-02-03T20:58:10Z")

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well lets hear details and we can all help you.

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**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 9:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-help-please/25470/17 "2009-02-03T21:08:33Z")

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Been thinking on this thread and it seems to me the best thing to do would be to pick either the one thing she likes most about you and amplify it, or the opposite of the thing she likes least about the new guy and amplify that.

For instance lets say you are the life of the party and she always liked that about you but you weren’t very good with the deeper connection. It would make more sense to make her regret the fact that you are so much fun by wearing IO than it would be to wear the more connective IH.

Or, the guy she’s with is a real knucklehead but she loves the sex. You would be better off showing a high status A314 signature than trying to compete with new guy by wearing IJ.

Just a thought.

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**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-help-please/25470/18 "2009-02-03T21:10:55Z")

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thats a good point you got there but ya I wouldn’t push it to much or try make the other guy look bad because it just shows your not mature.

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**Author:** ![HADYOU](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hadyou/32/1458_2.png) [@HADYOU](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HADYOU)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 9:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-help-please/25470/19 "2009-02-03T21:14:26Z")

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> [@dss](#):
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> well lets hear details and we can all help you.

Ex I have a son with has constantly been on rebounds I think due to the fact that she doesn’t want me back physically because she cheated on me and she’s not comfortable with my mother now also who treated her like a daughter. She is single a few times over again within 6 months since we were over in July. She is now acting needy on someone else who is out of state thank god in the army. She’s never dealt with things in her life, terrible upbringing just read some of my other posts which helos describe the situation more clearly.

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**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 9:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-help-please/25470/20 "2009-02-03T21:21:24Z")

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Oh, definitly don’t try to upstage the other guy with actions. Just use the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) to define yourself in the way that is most positive in her mind. My main point is don’t use the pheromones to try to correct a (perceived)deficiency use them to highlight and delineate the most positive aspects of who you are; perhaps compared to newguy.

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