# Some questions on P83 and P86 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 19, 2008, 10:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-questions-on-p83-and-p86/8453 "2008-01-19T22:20:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![runnerxvr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@runnerxvr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/runnerxvr)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 10:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-questions-on-p83-and-p86/8453/1 "2008-01-19T22:20:48Z")
Hello guys!!! How are you? I really hope you’re all fine!!! Today I’m starting this new thread to ask you guys some questions. In fact, I’ve some new pheros on their way coming to me. Of course, I’ve seen some other posts on the forum, but I didn’t get a quite a clear idea of P83 and P86. So, I hope that you’ll be willing of helping me :-). Of course, I know that for a good research it’d be better if I didn’t know the answeres to my questions, but I don’t want to mess all up. So, the questions are: 1. What are the main effects of P83? I’ve read that it’s some kind of sexual? 2. What are the main effects of P86? I’ve read that it’s more sexual than P83? Is it like TUTH or different? 3. This is only for those that already bought it. What is the best concentration of these pheros? I’ve bought 5 mcg/spray. 4. A spray from a “cobalt bottle” like those of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) do delivers more pheros than a TOGO bottle, or the same? Ok, for now these are all my questions. I’m waiting for your answers!!! See ya Franz ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2008, 4:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-questions-on-p83-and-p86/8453/2 "2008-01-20T04:37:31Z")
The full sized bottles apply more [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) per spray. I think the togo’s have approximately 80% of the content of a normal spray. In my travels P83 is very sexual, yet without a lot of the aggressiveness of none. It doesn’t seem to have a profound self affect, and doesn’t elicit abnormal behavior from other males. For a light touch 5mcg would be good to start, but it also ramps up nicely with more sprays. I like about 15-25, and others have had good reactions upwards at 60. P86 supposedly mixes really well with P83. from what I gather it is more social than sexual, but I haven’t experimented with it too much myself yet. ---
**Author:** ![TRDE59](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/trde59/32/412_2.png) [@TRDE59](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TRDE59)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2008, 4:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-questions-on-p83-and-p86/8453/3 "2008-01-20T04:40:34Z")
> [@P83 the multi-million variable putative!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-the-multi-million-variable-putative/7495/9): > > Lol. I can’t say I’ve noticed much in the way of super ultra hits that are blatantly obvious, but with a girl, I can usually tell a subtle difference in her actions when I wear p83 vs. when I don’t. Most are much more touchy-feely. Tater mentioned something about how p83 is sort of a crave activator. I agree with him, especially when it comes to sexuality/sensuality. Ever seen someone on Ecstasy? Very touchy-feely and very impulsive. When they want something, they want it NOW, and it usually i… That’s one of my observations about [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/). I haven’t tried P86, though. ---
**Author:** ![Rattlesnake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Rattlesnake](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rattlesnake)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2008, 11:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-questions-on-p83-and-p86/8453/4 "2008-01-20T11:05:50Z")
Yay! Someone referenced a post in one of my threads!!! 😃 To answer the OP, I dont know the effects of P86, but there is a fair amount of detailed observations in the link that TRDE59 linked to. ---
**Author:** ![m3turbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@m3turbo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/m3turbo)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2008, 7:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-questions-on-p83-and-p86/8453/5 "2008-01-20T19:19:39Z")
Don’t know anything about P86 but I know alot about [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/). It definitely is the closest thing to the axe effect I have experienced using pheros. It is definitely sexual! Too much though and it can produce some weird reactions. My sweet spot is around 45mcg. Hope that helps. ---
**Author:** ![runnerxvr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@runnerxvr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/runnerxvr)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 8:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-questions-on-p83-and-p86/8453/6 "2008-01-21T08:23:18Z")
Hello guys! Sorry for my late answer. Thank you for your replys!!! You’re all great! I can’t wait to test it out :-)! Of course, as soon as I test it, I’ll report it too! Ciao Franz ---
**Author:** ![runnerxvr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@runnerxvr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/runnerxvr)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 1:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-questions-on-p83-and-p86/8453/7 "2008-01-21T13:30:00Z")
Hello guys! I’ve just got my new order!!! Wow, all looks like it’s in one piece, and it didn’t leak this time. Now I’m planning to start testing soon. Ok, I should start with those [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) and P86, but I prefer to leave them for the weekend. Hmmm… Will I manage to not empty those nice blue bottles on me tonight ;-)? Did somebody test these two babies together? See ya Franz ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2010, 5:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-questions-on-p83-and-p86/8453/8 "2010-05-03T17:50:21Z")
> [@m3turbo](#): > > Don’t know anything about P86 but I know alot about P83. **It definitely is the closest thing to the axe effect I have experienced using pheros.** It is definitely sexual! Too much though and it can produce some weird reactions. My sweet spot is around 45mcg. Hope that helps. U sure about that? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2010, 6:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-questions-on-p83-and-p86/8453/9 "2010-05-03T18:05:19Z")
I finally feel asleep after three weeks waiting at the computer. Ran in here as soon as I saw the title, 'cause I THOUGHT P86 was in stock, and I had missed out. Pissed my pants! 😃 Wheeeeeew! That was a close call! 🙄 Anybody got a spare pull-up for old folks, that I can borrow? ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 12:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-questions-on-p83-and-p86/8453/10 "2010-05-04T00:52:05Z")
> [@runnerxvr](#): > > Hello guys!!! > How are you? I really hope you’re all fine!!! Today I’m starting this new thread to ask you guys some questions. In fact, I’ve some new pheros on their way coming to me. Of course, I’ve seen some other posts on the forum, but I didn’t get a quite a clear idea of P83 and P86. So, I hope that you’ll be willing of helping me :-). Of course, I know that for a good research it’d be better if I didn’t know the answeres to my questions, but I don’t want to mess all up. So, the questions are: > > 1. What are the main effects of P83? I’ve read that it’s some kind of sexual? > 2. What are the main effects of P86? I’ve read that it’s more sexual than P83? Is it like TUTH or different? > 3. This is only for those that already bought it. What is the best concentration of these pheros? I’ve bought 5 mcg/spray. > 4. A spray from a “cobalt bottle” like those of Instant Shine do delivers more pheros than a TOGO bottle, or the same? > > Ok, for now these are all my questions. I’m waiting for your answers!!! > > See ya > > Franz P86 makes you and other people around you more beautiful, this stuff is really great. Best concentration is 50mcg. ---
**Author:** ![apexi1100](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@apexi1100](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/apexi1100)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 1:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-questions-on-p83-and-p86/8453/11 "2010-05-04T01:27:33Z")
Holy Thread resurrection. I agree with the [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) making girls touchy-feely. I think I used about 30 mcgs with 3 drops of A314. One of my fav mixes is A314 with P86. I tried around 45 mcgs of P86 with 3 drops of A314 and everyone seemed to want to do things for me. I must have looked like a celeb or something. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 2:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-questions-on-p83-and-p86/8453/12 "2010-05-04T02:52:36Z")
Subbing for more thoughts on **P86**. Will it ever make it back to the store with **P96** , Batman? :o To be continued …