# Some questions on pheromones. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 8, 2009, 1:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-questions-on-pheromones/26849 "2009-03-08T13:30:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![monashguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@monashguy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monashguy)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 1:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-questions-on-pheromones/26849/1 "2009-03-08T13:30:36Z")
I like this really shy girl and I guess she did like me in the past, has been a while I didn’t see her. I have a way of meeting her that is I know where she works and I have a way to bump into her. It takes time before [pheromones](https://a314.com/) works right? And what is the best way to start back a conversation with her. What pheromones work best, I would really want a date with this girl after I try to “accidentally” bump into her. ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 5:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-questions-on-pheromones/26849/2 "2009-03-08T17:29:34Z")
As you know by now everyone reacts to the pheromones differently. There are no guarantees. You might try an io/ammo combination, start a conversation, and then aske her out not too far into the interaction. Say it’s been a long time since you’ve seen her and would like to catch up but don’t have time right now. The interest should be high and then you can leave her with interest still high. ---
**Author:** ![monashguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@monashguy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monashguy)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 12:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-questions-on-pheromones/26849/3 "2009-03-09T12:04:51Z")
> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#): > > As you know by now everyone reacts to the pheromones differently. There are no guarantees. > > You might try an io/ammo combination, start a conversation, and then aske her out not too far into the interaction. Say it’s been a long time since you’ve seen her and would like to catch up but don’t have time right now. The interest should be high and then you can leave her with interest still high. Thanks so much for the information, I appreciate it very much ---
**Author:** ![cdog](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cdog/32/231_2.png) [@cdog](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cdog)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 12:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-questions-on-pheromones/26849/4 "2009-03-09T12:39:45Z")
If this girl used to like you and she doesn’t currently have someone she is dating she will absolutely be willing to meet you to “catch up”. Just be very happy to see her and eager to talk with her some more. Since you wont have a lot of time to interact with her by “accidentally” bumping into her, ask her to meet you somewhere later and you can work on a date from there. a coffee house would be good or lunch somewhere would work. Ideally somewhere casual and either noisy or quiet as it will give you an excuse to need to be closer when you talk. be sure to watch for ioi and start the kino early so she doesn’t put you into the friend category, as that is often a death sentance lol. Your pheros should make you confident and open lines of communication Ill have to let others post on that, although ammo and instant openness sounds right to me. Remember people are just people and this girl has probably always wished you would initiate something with her so just be yourself and dont worry. Good luck Cdog ---
**Author:** ![monashguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@monashguy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monashguy)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 2:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-questions-on-pheromones/26849/5 "2009-03-09T14:15:27Z")
> [@cdog](#): > > If this girl used to like you and she doesn’t currently have someone she is dating she will absolutely be willing to meet you to “catch up”. Just be very happy to see her and eager to talk with her some more. > > Since you wont have a lot of time to interact with her by “accidentally” bumping into her, ask her to meet you somewhere later and you can work on a date from there. a coffee house would be good or lunch somewhere would work. Ideally somewhere casual and either noisy or quiet as it will give you an excuse to need to be closer when you talk. > > be sure to watch for ioi and start the kino early so she doesn’t put you into the friend category, as that is often a death sentance lol. Your pheros should make you confident and open lines of communication Ill have to let others post on that, although ammo and instant openness sounds right to me. > > Remember people are just people and this girl has probably always wished you would initiate something with her so just be yourself and dont worry. > > Good luck > > Cdog hey dear friend, would you like to know my whole love story, it’s not exactly that private, if you wouldn’t mind listening, I wouldn’t mind telling 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![cdog](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cdog/32/231_2.png) [@cdog](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cdog)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 12:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-questions-on-pheromones/26849/6 "2009-03-10T12:14:28Z")
Sure lets hear it ---
**Author:** ![monashguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@monashguy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monashguy)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 1:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-questions-on-pheromones/26849/7 "2009-03-10T13:06:41Z")
This is going to be long 🙂 This is going to be very long, so please bear with me and I hope you are patient with me. I recognize your effort in answering my question and I appreciate it. The reason I wrote short is because I didn’t want to trouble you. This goes a long way back in 2006 December when she was my work colleague,Back then we used to hang out for lunch, and on one of the lunch, she make a joke with me and said she is married and have children and in less than a minute she was laughing and says she was joking, I kind of like her already and when she say she has children and is married, I laughed. In office I make funny jokes with my friend and she in the vicinity, I touched my other guy friends and I said I was gay in a joking manner and she laughed a lot. I am a Chinese and she is a Chinese and she asked me how my Chinese name is written in Chinese, most Chinese girls would not ask a guy how to write his name in Chinese unless they like the guy(in most cases but I am not 100% sure on this) She is a very quiet girl and she talks a lot. She has known other guys(friends) for 3-4 months and when they talked to her and she is quiet, she responds to others and said she don’t talk much with people she doesn’t know much, yet when I knew her for less than a month, she talked so much with me, I can’t catch up. I only worked with the same bank with her one and half month only. The last day of working day with the bank, we had a small party at Dome Cafe, as time was running out and it was time to go back to work, I just told her to eat abit faster, and she look at me, put out her tongue at me and show it full of food saying she is eating fast or spicy, can’t recall what she said. After 1-2 weeks after I left the bank, the word spread out to her that I liked her and she got very angry with her good friend(a guy) because the fact I like her, he kept secret and didn’t let her know and after I left the bank only she knew about it. She was so mad she shouted at the bank that nearly everyone know she shouted at him and she ignored the guy 1-2 months. In fact, after few months I left the bank(after she knew I like her) she ask my good friend, have I found a job yet? There was once I called my friend, and for no reason he passed the phone to her, my friend asked do you want to speak to John(me), she said yes, I was a bit silly I don’t deny, so I just asked why did he pass the phone to you, then she said John is it you don’t want to speak to me?(this happened after she know I like her) Well the last time I talked to her was 14 February 2007. She left the bank I worked at August 2007, and she told a friend of hers, I didn’t accept John as my boyfriend because of different religion, I am a Christian and she is a Buddhist. But of course she never said she liked me. Well when she ate some vegetarian buddhist food, I followed her, I ordered a coke but I told her I was full and have eaten but I haven’t yet. And when she celebrates Chinese New Year, I told her I don’t take red packets or rather ang pow, red packets usually contain money and is chinese tradition. Maybe she can’t accept that. But to me, is it the relgion that is the barrier, maybe is there a way to tell her, I can compromise that is I’d still respect her belief but I do my things and she does hers? And recently I only found out that when her friends told her I like her, she became very sad. Interesting 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![monashguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@monashguy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monashguy)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 1:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-questions-on-pheromones/26849/8 "2009-03-10T13:09:41Z")
The thing is I like her very much despite 2 years has passed. I refuse to belive she didn’t like me, I thought pheromones can help, so I thought of asking her friend for help.Pls remember my first thing is to bump into her, but I am so shy anyways. My plans will change as circumstances and conditions change, nothing is certain for sure 🙂 > [@What is the best pheromones to wear in this situation.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-best-pheromones-to-wear-in-this-situation/26877): > > I like a girl example A and her friend is B. I am going to meet B soon, however B doesn’t like me too much, but doesn’t hate me. I am going to meet B because B’s friend is C and C is inviting B and me out. So in short, I am going to find out A’s telephone number by asking B and get to know B better so I can be close to A. So I am wondering what kind of [pheromones](https://a314.com/) would help so I will be in better relationship with B so I can get to know A better slight_smile ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 1:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-questions-on-pheromones/26849/9 "2009-03-10T13:41:23Z")
it actually does sound from your story that religion plays a part here. it can be a very big player. if someone cant wrap their head around how things could ever work, they cease trying. your job here is to accenuate the things you both have in common, minimize the things you dont, and use pheromones that help drop her guard. my guess is that uplifting [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) would be good for that. have you tried instant gentleman yet? ---
**Author:** ![monashguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@monashguy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monashguy)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 2:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-questions-on-pheromones/26849/10 "2009-03-10T14:14:24Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > it actually does sound from your story that religion plays a part here. > > it can be a very big player. > > if someone cant wrap their head around how things could ever work, they cease trying. > > your job here is to accenuate the things you both have in common, > minimize the things you dont, > and use pheromones that help drop her guard. > > my guess is that uplifting social pheromones would be good for that. > > have you tried instant gentleman yet? No I haven’t tried instant gentleman yet 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![cdog](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cdog/32/231_2.png) [@cdog](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cdog)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 8:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-questions-on-pheromones/26849/11 "2009-03-10T20:07:30Z")
OK my friend you have two problems here and only one is easy to solve. 1. you don’t know if this girl feels the same way about you that you do about her. the simple solution is to ask her to lunch and tell her how happy you are to see her again and that you have missed spending time with her. This statement is relatively harmless but based on her reaction you should be able to tell if she feels the same way about you. Your problem is that even if she does respond favorably towards you you are likely to convince yourself that your still not sure about her feelings. Its hard for me to tell you what I think you should do or expect to see because there seems to me a cultural difference between you and I, however I would imagine that if she is hoping that you like her, when you tell her that you do, her face should light up. 1. The other problem is actually a real problem and that is one of religion. I believe you said you are a Christian and she is a Buddhist. Well here my friend is where the trouble starts as I’m sure you are aware that you are not supposed to be “un-equally yoked”. You cant get into a relationship with the intention of changing the other person rather the liklyhood is that she will change you and according to the Christian faith that obviously would be bad. The rest is up to you, as far as the pheros, I really think its pretty much self effects is all that you should be concerned with at this point. Shine, openness, honesty…even the names of the products reflect how you need to treat this situation. Good luck with this it will be a character building experience for you but that is the price that will be required for what you desire. ---
**Author:** ![monashguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@monashguy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monashguy)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 12:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-questions-on-pheromones/26849/12 "2009-03-11T12:37:10Z")
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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-questions-on-pheromones/26849/13 "2009-03-11T13:31:21Z")
Hey great pictures. I got your PM and went over the mone options with you. Just so others know I suggested [MX200](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx200/) aka… Asian Persuasion, (since this is your second attempt with mones) and I made you aware its not guaranteed. IH and IG which do come with the guarantee. Now the religous differences can be hard to get by but I feel the IH can help you both open up about that and talk about it so you can express how you feel on the issue. Her looking sad when it was mentioned that you like her can be a indication of anything at this point. Perhaps being aware of the religous difference she was concerned, who knows but the IH can help you get to the bottom of it. Like I mentioned to you approach it softly. You dont want to come on to strong and I think that is what happened when you used A314 before. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![monashguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@monashguy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monashguy)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 1:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-questions-on-pheromones/26849/14 "2009-03-11T13:49:08Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Hey great pictures. > > I got your PM and went over the mone options with you. Just so others know I suggested MX200 aka… Asian Persuasion, (since this is your second attempt with mones) and I made you aware its not guaranteed. > > IH and IG which do come with the guarantee. > > Now the religous differences can be hard to get by but I feel the IH can help you both open up about that and talk about it so you can express how you feel on the issue. Her looking sad when it was mentioned that you like her can be a indication of anything at this point. Perhaps being aware of the religous difference she was concerned, who knows but the IH can help you get to the bottom of it. > > Like I mentioned to you approach it softly. You dont want to come on to strong and I think that is what happened when you used A314 before. > > Tisha I will buy according to what u suggested, it was really useful.Thanks!! 😃😃😃 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 2:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-questions-on-pheromones/26849/15 "2009-03-11T14:28:55Z")
There are two sections to the store. The consumer section which is where you get the proven products like IG and IH. The advanced section is where experinced users test products and report on them her in the forum [MX200](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx200/) is in that section. Its been around a long time and the men like it. It has a low low dose of anone so it meshes better with the asian culture. Asian men tend to naturally make lower levels of anone so this is what asian women are attracted to. Some info on MX200 > [@](#): > > **By Jasmin** > Many men want more influence with beautiful Asian ladies, but it’s well known that most pheromones formulas are just too much for them. Or the lovely Asian girls are simply too reserved to respond “outside their heads”. Either way, “Asian Persuasion” has long been something pheromone users have been pining for. > > If it actually ends up hitting Asian women’s hot buttons more than others, we’d be glad to develop this into a product. We could even call it “Asian Persuasion” > [@If you like Asian born women, Mx200 is a must](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/if-you-like-asian-born-women-mx200-is-a-must/5014): > > Last night I had a boat trip to attend with several hundred of my classmates. (almost all Asian, I am in Shanghai, China) The mix 3 sprays of 2x Instant Openess 3 x MX200 1x shine I got on the bus, which was 2 seats short of full capacity, and sat down in one. It was the back row of seats, and I was seated directly in the middle of a group of 4 Japanese friends. The mx200 didn’t really kick in till later I don’t think. anyway, the busride was fun. I was using a mix of Chinese and Engli… > [@MX200 on… \*GASP!\* White Chicks? A.K.A. 1 Day with MX200](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx200-on-gasp-white-chicks-a-k-a-1-day-with-mx200/13685): > > Warning: LONGGGG Post ahead! Okay here’s the deal I’ve pretty much tried almost all of the Men’s “instant” products, so on my last order I thought I’d have some fun and give one of the MX’s a shot. So after browsing the MX’s a while I came across MX200 by its description on the Androtics site it’s a “symphonic mix” of 17 different [pheromones](https://a314.com/), with a new “pherogame” scent. Hmmmm this one sounds interesting, and oh yeah it just might work well with the asian ladies… So I impulsively bought a bot… > [@](#): > > **By Zeph** > MX200 is a very social heavy mix/feel to it. That is probably why it tends to attract Asians well. It also works well on other ethnicities. > MX203 has been called instant caucasian magic and I think I read somewhere that it contains small amounts of -none, but I’m not too sure. I’ve found that it attracts caucasians very well. It may offend some others, as I’ve been told that I smell offensive by some Asians (I found that out through mutual friends). It may not offend everyone who is not caucasian as it did seem to be ok with some Asians, the ones who did not find the smell offensive. I’m assuming its the pheromones themselves because MX200 and MX203 have the same scent and I’ve been told by plenty of Asians that I smell great when I wore MX200. I haven’t really seen many other reactions from other people with MX203. This thread just illistrates how much the guys like it. I thought it was funny LOL > [@!!HEADS UP!! - MX200 is BACK!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heads-up-mx200-is-back/12855): > > Hey guys, HEADS UP - MX200 is back in store! MX200 is back, MX200 is back, MX200 is back, MX200 is back, MX200 is back, MX200 is back, MX200 is back, MX200 is back! If you’re wondering why I’m crazy over MX200, it’s because I got one as a sample, and well, it does amazing stuff - besides smelling great. It smells NOTHING like [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/).. and.. well, it’s a very clear, light something. Basically, just get a girl to smell it - they ALL say it’s yummy refreshing! **Dancing jokers Journal …** > [@DJ's Back in Business - New Lab & Journal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/djs-back-in-business-new-lab-journal/14914/23): > > MX200 + MX105 = Enhanced Instant Asian Persuasion Summary: I have been testing MX200 on multiple occasions, and have noted the “Instant Asian Persuasion” effects that many testing members have reported on. Seeking to tweak and enhance the effects, I decided to try out MX105 along with MX200, which Examine had recommended for its good results as well with the Asian ladies. The results from the MX200/MX105 combo were much better than just MX200 alone, and I have detailed the significant resul… **BY Leo** > [@](#): > > By this stage I thought that **MX200** was definitely doing something. I was not getting much from “White” girls but it was definitely doing something with the ones with oriental descent. But it was subtle and not overt like you may get from someone who is Primed and hit with NONE. > So I decided to grow some Cojones and approached a nice looking girl(Asian) who was dancing solo because her friend was with another guy. I started talking and asked her If I could dance with her. She smiled and said she couldn’t dance and I told her that neither could i but just to move and feel the music! She was very friendly, tho a bit shy and on the conservative side but I felt that she received me really well and was not intimidated by me. Had a good dance and chat and told her that maybe I may see her here again some other time. > [@](#): > > The 5x sprays were making me feel happy,more social( I am fairly shy )and slightly more confident. I went to the dance floor and danced next to a group of asian girls and I can say that they definitely noticed me. There were no overt reactions but they acknowledged my presence with looks and proximity and they were not intimidated by me. Next thing I know there is another group of Asian girls on the other side!!!😃 > I went to go upstairs to another room and smiled to one of the girls as I went past and to my surprise I got a real nice big smile from her!! > > I was in the other room for around 5 min and the group of girls with the one that smiled back at me came and started dancing next to me! Were these girls following me? > I really wanted to approach this girl but Alas, pheros or no pheros my Shyness got the better of me 🙄 . I know guys, this is something I am slowly working on and am getting over. **By Perronec** > [@](#): > > MX200 is a mix, it seems to make asian girls(and white girls to some extent) smiley. I’ve been complemented on the smell on many occasions. to be honest, i’m still at the beginning of testing this mix, and when i do get to some more thorough testing, it will be posted in my journal for sure. > [@the asian -none thread](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-asian-none-thread/21948): > > I’ve had his hankering for a while now to really give none-products a shot here. I firmly, along with the mad-tater apparently, believe that asians could have a positive rxn to -none, but it needs to be buffered, and i also need to play the part, perhaps more accurately than normal. so here is the kitten’s kaboodle: I want you guys to suggest things to buffer none with, (psst, it doesn’t have to be a nol…) and over time, with intermittent putative tests, I will do my best to test them all out. … > [@MX200 with P74, Instant Honesty and Instant Openness: a first-date combo](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx200-oh-how-it-works-on-the-asians/23608): > > You may view and post in original thread here: [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx200-oh-how-it-works-on-the-asians/21243](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx200-oh-how-it-works-on-the-asians/21243) the mix: 2x mx200 25mcg P74 12.5mcg Instant Honesty 2x [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) went out for a first date lunch with a girl i cold approached at a cafe. i met her once by chance again, and we hung out for 15 minutes or so, just chatting, and then today was the first actual date. anyway, I met her for lunch at 12:30, and she needed to go to class at 3. but around 2ish, she to… > [@urgent (and serious) advice needed from experienced guys with \*shy\* asian girls](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/urgent-and-serious-advice-needed-from-experienced-guys-with-shy-asian-girls/22546): > > i’ve been using a mix of p74 and mx200, sprinkled with IS and IH depending on occasions, to very good effect. so, yes, they work very well on asian girls. (i am asian too, if that matters) here’s the problem with this girl that i am ehh… seeing? i am definitely not a very experienced guy (2 previous LTRs), and i am honestly getting very confused over my current situation, it’s like nothing i’ve previously had. i met this girl three weeks ago over some group dinner. i was sitting beside her and… > [@](#): > > \*\*By Knowledgeispower…\*\*Today’s results were interesting. Yes, I can SEE why it’s called Asian Persuasion 😃 Most asian girls in my class were alot more talkative with me and simply more social. Normally I’m not that social with asians so this is how I know it’s working. > > Unfortunately, it did not have an amazing effect on the 1 asian girl I was specifically targetting. But that is my fault for not being in range. But it did affect everyone else… **Perronecs Journal** > [@Perronec's Research; AKA " what works best on Asian girls"](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/perronecs-research-aka-what-works-best-on-asian-girls/22911): > > I will update this post as I go along with my experiments I will update this list from the top down, so its easy to see new things i have learned. things I have learned: IFM is god… p75 above 1.5mcgs cause’s guys night out to be guys night in silence. even with normally talkative people and [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) added. p75 is a great putative. people really want to get to know you. 1-2mcg max. mx272 at 3x leads to funny conversations that are less ‘all over the place’ than spaceland. Brother Th… These posts should give you a feel for what MX200 does and some suggestions from the men on attracting Asian women. Tisha