# Some self effects. A314 and MX203 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 9, 2009, 8:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-self-effects-a314-and-mx203/25885 "2009-02-09T08:25:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![LondonCityGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@LondonCityGuy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LondonCityGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 8:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-self-effects-a314-and-mx203/25885/1 "2009-02-09T08:25:29Z")
Hi all, Still trying to spot the subtleties in these amazing bottles. Maybe I’m just learning to be more observant 🙂 No surprises with the first one since it is so well reported but I finally found myself adopting the A314 “alpha” stance last week. Nothing big, just a couple of situations in a shop and a pub where I caught myself demanding better service. Could just be that I’m turning into a “grumpy old man” (UK TV reference 🙂) but it snapped the people involved back into line a bit. The second was me heading out to a local bank to report my mum’s death to them. (No worries here, just context). I put on 4 sprays of [MX203](https://a314.com/product/mx203/) since I knew I’d be in town a bit - each side of the head, each wrist. When I got there, the girl (24?) helping me went off to find the “bereavement” expert, then returned to say that he wasn’t around. Sidenote - more grump from me…how hard could it be to close an account! Anyway, when she came back to apologise, she moved right into my personal space, said sorry for that and then failed about 3 times to say “I’m sorry for your loss” - not a long sentence to cock-up you would have thought. After I finally said it for her, she cracked up and put her hand on my arm and agreed. So, finally, a real hit I think. More experiments to follow. As a final question - has anyone found IFM to make their partners REALLY spikey. I’m not sure on this one, everyone seems to say the opposite, but the wife was “the stone-cold bitch from hell” the other day and I was wearing a single to-go spray of IFM. Comments? ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 9:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-self-effects-a314-and-mx203/25885/2 "2009-02-09T09:34:35Z")
Reading your post, I was wondering how old you are, heh … sometimes I ~am~ a grumpy old man. I’m not aware of IFM causing that kind of spikiness, but – individual chemistry trumps expectations. That’s such a unexpected response, I’d repeat that experiment a dozen times or so to see if/when/how often it comes up. ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 10:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-self-effects-a314-and-mx203/25885/3 "2009-02-09T10:15:38Z")
LCG, sorry to hear about your mum. I take it from the fact that you are closing her account, you are her executor. If you want any assistance with the legal side of things, PM me ( don’t appoint a probate lawyer unless you have to, they cost a fortune 😮 and 99% of the stuff you can do by yourself) Regarding IFM, I’ve never had any woman react like that, including the wife, if you dare, I suggest you retest, it may just be that she was reacting to a change in your phero signature, a bad day or any one of a number of reasons. As MarkL said, that is a really unusual reaction! Were you wearing anything else with it? Don’t worry about being Meldrew, it’s probably you adjusting to your A314 signature, you’ll be fine. ---
**Author:** ![LondonCityGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@LondonCityGuy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LondonCityGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 10:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-self-effects-a314-and-mx203/25885/4 "2009-02-09T10:33:27Z")
> [@MarkL](#): > > Reading your post, I was wondering how old you are, heh … sometimes I ~am~ a grumpy old man. > > I’m not aware of IFM causing that kind of spikiness, but – individual chemistry trumps expectations. That’s such a unexpected response, I’d repeat that experiment a dozen times or so to see if/when/how often it comes up. Hey Mark, I’m a 23 year old trapped in the body of a 47 year old guy 🙂 It just happened one day when I wasn’t looking! I guess my personal signature is well bedded-in! You’re right about the re-test, I was so shocked that I immediately thought “naah, can’t be that” but I thought I’d ask. I will try again and report back. ---
**Author:** ![LondonCityGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@LondonCityGuy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LondonCityGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 10:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-self-effects-a314-and-mx203/25885/5 "2009-02-09T10:36:31Z")
> [@diamond](#): > > LCG, sorry to hear about your mum. I take it from the fact that you are closing her account, you are her executor. > > If you want any assistance with the legal side of things, PM me ( don’t appoint a probate lawyer unless you have to, they cost a fortune 😮 and 99% of the stuff you can do by yourself) > > Regarding IFM, I’ve never had any woman react like that, including the wife, if you dare, I suggest you retest, it may just be that she was reacting to a change in your phero signature, a bad day or any one of a number of reasons. As MarkL said, that is a really unusual reaction! Were you wearing anything else with it? > > Don’t worry about being Meldrew, it’s probably you adjusting to your A314 signature, you’ll be fine. Hi Diamond, Many thanks for the offer, I’ll keep it in mind if that’s OK. The beauty (and the bugger) of my situation is that I am also out of work after my company was bought out by Oracle last year. It gives me plenty of time to sort out paper-work but that obviously gets in the way of job-hunting 🙂 As a result, my phero-trials have all been UK based, rather than in the bars and clubs of Europe when I was employed! ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 10:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-self-effects-a314-and-mx203/25885/6 "2009-02-09T10:44:21Z")
No probs, you know where to find me 😉 As for testing, you’ve got 10 million or so subjects on your doorstep, get out there and have fun! ---
**Author:** ![LondonCityGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@LondonCityGuy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LondonCityGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 10:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-self-effects-a314-and-mx203/25885/7 "2009-02-09T10:58:40Z")
> [@LondonCityGuy](#): > > Hi all, > > Still trying to spot the subtleties in these amazing bottles. Maybe I’m just learning to be more observant 🙂 > > No surprises with the first one since it is so well reported but I finally found myself adopting the A314 “alpha” stance last week. Nothing big, just a couple of situations in a shop and a pub where I caught myself demanding better service. Could just be that I’m turning into a “grumpy old man” (UK TV reference 🙂) but it snapped the people involved back into line a bit. > > The second was me heading out to a local bank to report my mum’s death to them. (No worries here, just context). I put on 4 sprays of MX203 since I knew I’d be in town a bit - each side of the head, each wrist. When I got there, the girl (24?) helping me went off to find the “bereavement” expert, then returned to say that he wasn’t around. Sidenote - more grump from me…how hard could it be to close an account! > > Anyway, when she came back to apologise, she moved right into my personal space, said sorry for that and then failed about 3 times to say “I’m sorry for your loss” - not a long sentence to cock-up you would have thought. After I finally said it for her, she cracked up and put her hand on my arm and agreed. So, finally, a real hit I think. More experiments to follow. > > As a final question - has anyone found IFM to make their partners REALLY spikey. I’m not sure on this one, everyone seems to say the opposite, but the wife was “the stone-cold bitch from hell” the other day and I was wearing a single to-go spray of IFM. Comments? Damn, replying to my own post…how schizophrenic is that?! Just went back to the bank…got to sit in a room with a nice young lady to sort out all the account details. This time I only had 3 sprays of [MX203](https://a314.com/product/mx203/) on, 2 head, one neck. On three separate occasions, she suggested that if I didn’t get in touch with her for more help, then I wouldn’t have the chance to see and talk to her again 😮 Sounds like a real effect to me! All this with her male trainee colleague sat right next to her. I also forgot to mention a self-effect from my previous 4 spray event. I found that my heart felt like it was beating really hard last time (or I was just very aware of it) Not fast, just thump, thump, like the first time you ever asked a question out loud in front of an important peer group - so, some kind of adrenaline kick maybe. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 1:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-self-effects-a314-and-mx203/25885/8 "2009-02-09T13:37:58Z")
not for nothing, even after 2 years the bank is still f-ing with us over my dads account. :😔: it has to be done. anyhoo, in regards to the heartbeat thing, it makes my heart beat hard to be around anyone wearing _alot of any one mixture_. if the mixture has 'none in it, _even more so_. i cant speak for everyone but i believe you acclimate to it. also, i have tried 99% of the products here (yes, even the men’s mixes. im a devil) and i can say that IFM is not one of my favorites. im not sure why, but it doesnt make me nicer :o it does infact work for most or id say better than 80% of those who order it. id give it more time, maybe after a few uses you will find that your wife’s response to it was a fluke and due to other factors.