# Some thoughts **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 19, 2011, 2:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-thoughts/53404 "2011-11-19T14:34:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RedStar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f07891/32.png) [@RedStar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RedStar)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 2:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-thoughts/53404/1 "2011-11-19T14:34:16Z")
Whats up everybody so since I have gotten my stash: IJ, IH, IO, AMMO, A314, TUTH, IS, I have been testing the sweet spots. A bit of a background on me, I am a personal trainer in a very upscale Studio and most of my clients are women ages 30-50, now I am not trying to pick anyone up at work as it goes against my professional policy, but never the less the environment is perfect for testing hehe. What I have noticed so far: 3 sprays of IS makes all the women blush, laugh and talk non stop. 3 sprays of IO or IH or 50/50 makes them talk way to much but I noticed that I myself start laughing and talking about BS way to much (how do you control that lol) 1 spray of IJ seems to give me a great confidence boost, but does not really have an effect on the people around me, then again I am not to sure even when to use IJ since for going out I think [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) would be better no? Would mixing Ammo + IJ be to much none? Then again I could potentially buffer that with IS or IH… As far as A314 goes I still did not try it, but will be next week, 1 drop on chin 1 drop behind ear? Should I rub it in? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 2:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-thoughts/53404/2 "2011-11-19T14:59:37Z")
> [@RedStar](#): > > 3 sprays of IS makes all the women blush, laugh and talk non stop. > 3 sprays of IO or IH or 50/50 makes them talk way to much but I noticed that I myself start laughing and talking about BS way to much (how do you control that lol) > 1 spray of IJ seems to give me a great confidence boost, but does not really have an effect on the people around me, then again I am not to sure even when to use IJ since for going out I think Ammo would be better no? > Would mixing Ammo + IJ be to much none? Then again I could potentially buffer that with IS or IH… > As far as A314 goes I still did not try it, but will be next week, 1 drop on chin 1 drop behind ear? Should I rub it in? IS - Yup, just what you might expect from it! IO/IH - This is more or less the official replacement for CTTM2 and again, you report exactly what you might expect. Self control is the only answer for the self-effects tho! 🙂 IJ - Yup, big none-style confidence boost. Response is not unsurprising considering the age range, 30-50 women will be far more comfortable with a lot of none and the enviroment will probably have a fair bit floating about anyway. Personally, IJ is the very last phero I’d be wearing for work but I’m in labs mainly, which is a very different sort of place. Mixed results when wearing IJ out. It is abrasive and will repel at least as many as it attracts but by god, when you get a good hit, you will know about it! 😃 Ammo - Far better social/sexy balance, so yes probably the one to wear out to maximise your appeal to the widest range of people. Ammo/IJ - Why not try it? Standard Ammo is only 2.5mcg of none per spray, compared to IJ’s 12.5, so you won’t be doing a great deal OD-wise, the equal amounts of nol and rone in Ammo may help to tame IJ a little. However, you need to forget subtle mixing/steering with IJ as that none content will likely obliterate the subtle steering molecules. I’d be more tempted to moderate IJ with a hefty dose of IS or nols - particularly betanol, so either IO or IH might be useful here. 🙂 A314 - 2 drops is probably a reasonable workday dose for a guy your age but you really re best to follow the sweet spot guide in order to better determine what works best. I usually only rub it as far as I need to cover my app points then leave it to fix on its own. I don’t rub it right-in. I also apply over a good quality lotion as I find the lanolin makes a better barrier to breakdown in the skin and prolongs the active period considerably. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RedStar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f07891/32.png) [@RedStar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RedStar)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 3:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-thoughts/53404/3 "2011-11-19T15:20:24Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > IS - Yup, just what you might expect from it! > > IO/IH - This is more or less the official replacement for CTTM2 and again, you report exactly what you might expect. Self control is the only answer for the self-effects tho! 🙂 > > IJ - Yup, big none-style confidence boost. Response is not unsurprising considering the age range, 30-50 women will be far more comfortable with a lot of none and the enviroment will probably have a fair bit floating about anyway. Personally, IJ is the very last phero I’d be wearing for work but I’m in labs mainly, which is a very different sort of place. Mixed results when wearing IJ out. It is abrasive and will repel at least as many as it attracts but by god, when you get a good hit, you will know about it! 😃 > > Ammo - Far better social/sexy balance, so yes probably the one to wear out to maximise your appeal to the widest range of people. > > Ammo/IJ - Why not try it? Standard Ammo is only 2.5mcg of none per spray, compared to IJ’s 12.5, so you won’t be doing a great deal OD-wise, the equal amounts of nol and rone in Ammo may help to tame IJ a little. However, you need to forget subtle mixing/steering with IJ as that none content will likely obliterate the subtle steering molecules. I’d be more tempted to moderate IJ with a hefty dose of IS or nols - particularly betanol, so either IO or IH might be useful here. 🙂 > > A314 - 2 drops is probably a reasonable workday dose for a guy your age but you really re best to follow the sweet spot guide in order to better determine what works best. I usually only rub it as far as I need to cover my app points then leave it to fix on its own. I don’t rub it right-in. I also apply over a good quality lotion as I find the lanolin makes a better barrier to breakdown in the skin and prolongs the active period considerably. 🙂 Thanks for the detailed reply brother! In all honesty I think that I will use IJ only for Self effects, and one spray on the chest keeps me motivated and sharp for at least 4-6 hours. I will be trying some AMMO/IS/IO or IH tonight, I recently read that IO can take away from some of the effects of AMMO so most probably will go towards IH. Will be interesting to see the effects, going to a club that is predominantly mid twenties to early thirties. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 3:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-thoughts/53404/4 "2011-11-19T15:29:37Z")
The main reasons I wear IJ are: 1 - Around my ex. She is part Spanish and very responsive to hi-none. She also responds to A314 very effectively. Occasionally I like to wind her-up a bit. 😉 2 - With a couple of women I see, I have found that if I put-on one spray after they have gone to sleep, I can be certain that they will wake-up feeling very, very horny! 😃 Otherwise, I’d have to say that the positive/negative hit ratio for me is weighted more to the negative (ghostings, arguments, fights), so for just going out, I’d mostly not bother. You may find A314 better or at least a different form of confidence/motivation self effects. It falls into the more cool/collected and in-command style. IS is also great for confidence but in a fun/centre of attention way. Yes, IO is a good none moderator. Which is what I mainly use it for as I don’t get on so well with it. I prefer IH/IS in its place. 🙂