# SomeoneOrNot's irresponsibly updated journal **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [July 30, 2012, 1:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/someoneornots-irresponsibly-updated-journal/56263 "2012-07-30T13:20:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![SomeoneOrNot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/someoneornot/32/205_2.png) [@SomeoneOrNot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SomeoneOrNot)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2012, 11:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/someoneornots-irresponsibly-updated-journal/56263/61 "2012-09-02T23:15:18Z")
I’m thinking I’m going to take a break for a little while, a few days from pheros altogether. Then start really doing “sweet spot” testing, with one of the single molecules most likely. Not [P130](https://a314.com/product/p130/), though. While it’s interesting stuff I notice that it isn’t available in the store. I’m interested in the stuff but it’s at least somewhat rare right now and I’m afraid I’m going to waste it mixing until I have a better idea of what I’m doing with it. One final observation on P130 before I put it back on the shelf for a week or two - wearing it one day caused several people to remark that things I said were funny, that I was funny…when I wasn’t being particularly funny. Wry, perhaps, at most, but not really even lame jokes - just those little half-joke turns of phrase that people don’t usually pick up on or laugh at. Kinda makes me think it would be good for comedians, except you would have to be sitting close to the stage for it to affect you. Coming soon - I had my ex-girlfriend wear TAH 2 days in a row, and entertaining results occurred as she went about her day shopping each time! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SomeoneOrNot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/someoneornot/32/205_2.png) [@SomeoneOrNot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SomeoneOrNot)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2012, 12:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/someoneornots-irresponsibly-updated-journal/56263/62 "2012-09-03T12:07:34Z")
So day of shopping the first - gave the ex a single spray of TAH (12.5mcg) on the front of her neck before we went out shopping. She was hit on by two guys and three women. Not typical. One guy came up and kept asking her if she needed help at the bookstore, blatantly giving her kind of a DIHL reaction every time he walked by her. Asked her if she needed help like four times. This is pretty funny because for all intents and purposes we could well appear to be still dating, we’re familiar with each other and our body language definitely reflects that - so this guy was kind of going out on a limb. Also my friend, Lady A, was very enthusiastic about meeting the ex - being super flirty with her throughout the evening. (Lady A is bisexual, the ex is not) Day two of shopping, I wasn’t there for. I think the ex forgot that she had it on but was telling me all sorts of things about her weird day and how some guy at another store was being super flirty, and discounted her $70 worth of items in her basket to $16. I don’t think she made the connection to having had a spray of TAH(12.5mcg) on, but I noted it as it was approximately 2 hours after, timewise. Very interesting. I note that the ex’s sweat has developed an odd, pheromone-y odor at the end of the day after wearing the TAH. Sort of like artificial popcorn butter. I think it’s her reaction to the TAH rather than the TAH itself, but it’s hard to say. ---
**Author:** ![SomeoneOrNot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/someoneornot/32/205_2.png) [@SomeoneOrNot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SomeoneOrNot)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2012, 12:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/someoneornots-irresponsibly-updated-journal/56263/63 "2012-09-03T12:44:34Z")
The ex has this to say - “Also, while I was at the bookstore waiting for the bathroom a girl came up to me and was just talking and talking and talking like she didn’t want to leave…” ---
**Author:** ![SomeoneOrNot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/someoneornot/32/205_2.png) [@SomeoneOrNot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SomeoneOrNot)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 10:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/someoneornots-irresponsibly-updated-journal/56263/64 "2012-09-18T22:11:34Z")
Man, between the new job starting and the internet going down around here I’ve been a busy, busy bee. Little time to post results, I did take a break from the pheros for a little while and I’m glad I did - I realized that I had kind of altered my perspective a bit from wearing various things _constantly_ and wasn’t really getting very good perspectives on everything. A quick report, however - I hung out with a lady who is a bit older than me (40), that I’ve always been interested in but never had an opportunity to put the moves on in the past. 2 sprays of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) Summer 2012 edition worked amazing wonders on her. She came into the room, immediately started talking about sex, sexual activities and the like. Kept touching me, her fingertips lingering on my arm, etc. When I was leaving she grabbed me, gave me a crotch-grinding hug of outstanding quality and whispered “keep in touch” in my ear…all very out of character. The next day she found me on facebook, sent me a message saying how much she enjoyed hanging out, and invited me to stop by her house after work any time I want to(!!). This is…not typical behavior for her. But I certainly hope it _becomes_ more typical. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 1:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/someoneornots-irresponsibly-updated-journal/56263/65 "2012-09-19T01:05:44Z")
> [@SomeoneOrNot](#): > > Man, between the new job starting and the internet going down around here I’ve been a busy, busy bee. Little time to post results, I did take a break from the pheros for a little while and I’m glad I did - I realized that I had kind of altered my perspective a bit from wearing various things _constantly_ and wasn’t really getting very good perspectives on everything. A quick report, however - I hung out with a lady who is a bit older than me (40), that I’ve always been interested in but never had an opportunity to put the moves on in the past. 2 sprays of Ammo Summer 2012 edition worked amazing wonders on her. She came into the room, immediately started talking about sex, sexual activities and the like. Kept touching me, her fingertips lingering on my arm, etc. When I was leaving she grabbed me, gave me a crotch-grinding hug of outstanding quality and whispered “keep in touch” in my ear…all very out of character. The next day she found me on facebook, sent me a message saying how much she enjoyed hanging out, and invited me to stop by her house after work any time I want to(!!). This is…not typical behavior for her. But I certainly hope it _becomes_ more typical. 😃 Superhit! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SomeoneOrNot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/someoneornot/32/205_2.png) [@SomeoneOrNot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SomeoneOrNot)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 8:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/someoneornots-irresponsibly-updated-journal/56263/67 "2012-09-19T20:23:17Z")
Thanks! I worry that I’m not providing enough detail at times but my thought process on pheromones is just…hard to articulate at times. So in the news, I have decided a few things. For one, I’ve been _very_ impressed with the results I’ve gotten from A314/b spray, enough so that i’ve gone ahead and ordered a bottle of the oil. I’m excited. Ordered some p75 along with it. I’m planning on doing some single-molecule testing soon. Can’t do it at work and they’re working us overtime (highly paid overtime, mind you) so I will have infrequent testing times, but… And, I _did_ do some sweet-spot testing on P83. I’m pretty sure that my sweet spot is around 40mcg. Haven’t gotten up past that but one, but I can just kinda tell that it’s the upper limit, odd as that sounds to say. Dunno. P83 is like…liquid. Smooth, fluid, sensual in a sensory sense. Like laid-back jazz, or a cool breeze or something. I have to wait to drive after I spray it for a few minutes because it kinda makes me a sloppier driver until it dies down a bit. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SomeoneOrNot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/someoneornot/32/205_2.png) [@SomeoneOrNot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SomeoneOrNot)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 9:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/someoneornots-irresponsibly-updated-journal/56263/68 "2012-09-19T21:05:11Z")
I’m definitely going to have to do some single-molecule testing with p74 - I can’t really tell with that stuff if it’s doing anything or not. I _know_ it almost certainly is, but until I’ve tested it, found a sweet spot, and been able to really observe effects well, I am at a loss where it is concerned. So far I’ve done…10mcg at the most. But that was _ahem_ irresponsibly mixing it with stuff without first establishing a baseline. I appreciate the frustration the AD folks have expressed about this kind of behavior, which makes me want to do better testing in the future - and frankly it’s better for me too if I do so. Sigh. I need to just put all of the things I’m not using in my safe, out of sight, except for my bottle of Ammo SE 2012 and IS for emergencies. Then just keep whatever the single-molecule I’m testing out and only use that. Hmmm…this isn’t a bad idea, maybe I _will_ do that. ---
**Author:** ![SomeoneOrNot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/someoneornot/32/205_2.png) [@SomeoneOrNot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SomeoneOrNot)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2012, 8:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/someoneornots-irresponsibly-updated-journal/56263/69 "2012-09-23T08:59:48Z")
Oh wow, holy crap the oil version of A314 is impressive. Subtle, and at the same time not at all subtle. Off to work, more details later. ---
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2012, 1:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/someoneornots-irresponsibly-updated-journal/56263/70 "2012-09-23T13:12:22Z")
> [@SomeoneOrNot](#): > > Oh wow, holy crap the oil version of A314 is impressive. Subtle, and at the same time not at all subtle. Off to work, more details later. I am interested in these results. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![SomeoneOrNot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/someoneornot/32/205_2.png) [@SomeoneOrNot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SomeoneOrNot)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 11:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/someoneornots-irresponsibly-updated-journal/56263/71 "2012-09-25T23:29:28Z")
A314 oil based…well, for starters, the longevity is fantastic. I do get a slight (and I mean slight) -none smell by the end of about 10 hours or so, but it’s mild. By subtle I mean it’s smooth - I can tell the effects from my own behavior, and from the obvious difference in the way people behave around me, but it’s nothing like any of the alcohol-based sprays. Those are fairly dramatic, and have a self-effect punch that just makes me kinda zonkers in many cases…but they don’t build, and they don’t last. This is much more like what I imagine it would be like it my actual natural signature was A314’s composition. And man, people are politer, friendlier, and in the cases of women 28+ often flirtier. Random people went out of their way to talk to me the other day, asking questions about what dept I worked in (at work), how the job was going (at the local coffee shop), etc. I’ve had these effects before from A314/b spray but they were hit or miss. The oil is _slightly_ less effective but way, way, way more consistent - and a broader range of people seem to respond to it. If it was possible, and I understand why it isn’t in terms of cost-effectiveness for AD, I would buy all the products I’ve already got in oil form. I think it’s more of a game-changer than I believed it would be. In hindsight it makes sense though. Today, however, I tried something different - that’s right, I’ve finally decided to start SINGLE MOLECULE TESTING!!! _cue dramatic music and thunderclap_ One spray of P74, 5mcg (Neroli - I’ve really got to vary the scents I get, I’m starting to smell like a human fabric softener when I mix & match) directly to my solar plexus, on my shirt not my chest: So P74 confuses the hell out of me. I can tell it’s doing something usually but it’s very subtle to me and since I’ve been using it layered with other stuff it was getting drowned out. But today I was able to pinpoint it. (I know, this is why you guys have been telling me to do that all along. I am sheepishly hanging my head in I-knew-better-ness) I felt emotionally more open. Like I could empathize, sure, but also like I could get drawn into the emotions of the music I was listening to. I felt that I could have easily gotten sad if I had let myself go down that road, or happy, or angry, etc…but I felt like some sort of “walls” were down a bit. Not in the way that other molecules have this effect, like beta -nol or P130, or P83. I didn’t feel disinhibited or necessarily more trusting…just, the option to follow an external emotional lead was more readily available. Just the option. Nothing slipping past my defenses or anything, but if I had been having a day where I was in my own headspace and not paying attention to other people’s state of mind, this would have helped me come back around and remember to pay attention to it. To connect. Subtle for me specifically, because I’m generally very empathetic and emotionally malleable anyway…these are some of my defining traits and I’ve put some work into turning them into strengths rather than crippling weaknesses over the years. But it’s why I couldn’t put my finger on what it was doing before - it was reinforcing already familiar territory for me. Gave me a slight headache, nothing like a -nol overdose or too much P130 all at once does. Jesus, the time I gave myself 3 shots of P130 12.5mcg all at once to see what a megadose would do…I have a whole new appreciation for people who suffer from cluster headaches and migraines now. That’s what that did for me. I’m thinking of making up a little chart with tally marks for my A314 experimentation. Count the number of times someone talks to me and I feel it is out of the ordinary, count the number of times people misinterpret my age, my social standing, etc. All very subjective, of course, but it’s some raw data which over time could really help me (and AD) since it can be kind of hard to pinpoint the effects in the moment. Especially since pheros tend to give me wicked pherobuzz a lot of the time. Not that I’m complaining! It’s usually awesome. Oh and one last observation - a few days back I tried one shot of [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) which is…oh, of course, it’s a standardized strength so no dosage report needed. Ok, anyway, here’s something I noticed about the stuff - most pheros kind of make me a little buzzed, a tiny bit mentally slower like a moderately heavy meal or the post-orgasm sleepies or something. They take the edge off, which is great but bugs me sometimes when I’m doing intellectually challenging activities (like learning complex systems at work). MX297 had almost the opposite effect - woke me up, dilated my pupils, made my vision sharper…I figure it’s got to have TAF or one of the other experimones or putatives that I don’t have yet in it. (TAC?) Whatever it is that’s doing that, I _needs_ me some of it. It _really_ helped. I figure when my next round of purchases comes through (this job is paying me so much right now compared to my expenses, I love it) I’m going to snap up a bunch of random stuff and see if I can’t figure out what was helping my focus. Except TAF - that shit is 999.99 for non-reporting-users. I’ll just wait till it comes down in price or I’ve posted enough to be a reporting user. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SomeoneOrNot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/someoneornot/32/205_2.png) [@SomeoneOrNot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SomeoneOrNot)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 11:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/someoneornots-irresponsibly-updated-journal/56263/72 "2012-09-25T23:47:49Z")
Reading another thread, I had _totally_ forgotten about TAK! I’m going to definitely have to get some of that next time. I don’t think it’s the superfocus molecule - I strongly suspect TAF actually, or a couple of putatives that have been mentioned - but I don’t have it…and, you know…gotta test them all… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SomeoneOrNot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/someoneornot/32/205_2.png) [@SomeoneOrNot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SomeoneOrNot)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 11:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/someoneornots-irresponsibly-updated-journal/56263/73 "2012-09-27T23:07:26Z")
Ok, got me some TAC and TAK on the way, along with a couple of putatives I haven’t seen much of anything written about. That way I have few preconceptions, should be interesting. P92 and P104. Saw one comment on P92 saying they felt it had a mild nootropic effect but really I’ve seen nothing. And P104 I’ve seen nothing on. Should be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![SomeoneOrNot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/someoneornot/32/205_2.png) [@SomeoneOrNot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SomeoneOrNot)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 12:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/someoneornots-irresponsibly-updated-journal/56263/74 "2012-09-29T12:15:43Z")
And on a related-but-unrelated front, I’ve upped my game on my DIY fragrance making, bought myself a “beginner’s kit” of tools and various notes. I like my existing scent stuff but I want something that blends better with [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) & Akuto, which for some strange reason I’ve been smelling a lot like lately. Can’t imagine why. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SomeoneOrNot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/someoneornot/32/205_2.png) [@SomeoneOrNot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SomeoneOrNot)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2012, 8:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/someoneornots-irresponsibly-updated-journal/56263/75 "2012-10-02T08:29:40Z")
Heh, the order sheet _says_ freebie but I don’t see one in here. Mind you, I’m not complaining - this was INCREDIBLY fast shipping time. OK, so trying not to bias my results too much, I’m going to go ahead and forgo my usual 1-2 drops of A314 today before work and just give myself a shot of P92, 12.5mcg (in grapefruit fragrance, I had so much in neroli that as I said I was starting to smell like fabric softener all the time) and see how it goes. It’s soooooooo tempting to try all of the things that arrived, of course, but what good would that do me? I don’t know what any of these do. But here’s what arrived, for journal purposes: TAK 5mcg (grapefruit), TAC 5mcg (grapefruit), P92 12.5mcg (grapefruit), and P104 12.5mcg (grapefruit). Also IH but I figure we’re all at least somewhat familiar with the effects of that one already. So _anyway_, on to the science! 1 12.5mcg shot to my neck, to record self-effects while I’m sitting here…back in five. ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2012, 8:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/someoneornots-irresponsibly-updated-journal/56263/76 "2012-10-02T08:34:50Z")
> [@SomeoneOrNot](#): > > Heh, the order sheet _says_ freebie but I don’t see one in here. Mind you, I’m not complaining - this was INCREDIBLY fast shipping time. OK, so trying not to bias my results too much, I’m going to go ahead and forgo my usual 1-2 drops of A314 today before work and just give myself a shot of P92, 12.5mcg (in grapefruit fragrance, I had so much in neroli that as I said I was starting to smell like fabric softener all the time) and see how it goes. It’s soooooooo tempting to try all of the things that arrived, of course, but what good would that do me? I don’t know what any of these do. But here’s what arrived, for journal purposes: TAK 5mcg (grapefruit), TAC 5mcg (grapefruit), P92 12.5mcg (grapefruit), and P104 12.5mcg (grapefruit). Also IH but I figure we’re all at least somewhat familiar with the effects of that one already. So _anyway_, on to the science! > > 1 12.5mcg shot to my neck, to record self-effects while I’m sitting here…back in five. Look forward to your findings! ---
**Author:** ![SomeoneOrNot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/someoneornot/32/205_2.png) [@SomeoneOrNot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SomeoneOrNot)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2012, 8:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/someoneornots-irresponsibly-updated-journal/56263/77 "2012-10-02T08:40:13Z")
Hmmm ok, slight tightness in my temple area, which some pheros do. My mental focus seems slightly more external and less internal, a shift I could feel happening. I do feel a slight sense of potential energy in my abdomen muscles, which under the wrong circumstances could be interpreted as anxiety…or excitement under the right ones. Not a particularly strong effect on mood although I do feel that my mood is slightly improved. I would say slightly mentally relaxed and physically energetic, but without the brain fog that some pheromones give me. Has that “refreshing breeze on a warm day” psychological effect that some molecules seem to have on me. Hmmm…and it appears to still be building a little. This is interesting. I’d definitely say it’s not doing _nothing_ - there is clearly some sort of effect going on here. And it seems to have calmed my mental chatter a little bit in an unfamiliar way. Mind you, all of this is potentially more subtle than I’m making it sound like since I’m pretty good at paying attention to internal phenomena, but _I_ will say it’s more noticeable than I was expecting. So there. It’s not an overt, hit-you-over-the-head-with-sexuality vibe but I can see several places where this would be useful. For example, at my job. I’m definitely glad I bought P92. ---
**Author:** ![SomeoneOrNot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/someoneornot/32/205_2.png) [@SomeoneOrNot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SomeoneOrNot)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2012, 8:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/someoneornots-irresponsibly-updated-journal/56263/78 "2012-10-02T08:44:35Z")
And a few minutes later I find myself actually _looking forward_ to going in to work. That’s just…it’s like I don’t even know who I am anymore. 😛 But seriously, that’s definitely slightly out of character. Half an hour ago I was dreading it, now I feel competent and calmly ready to roll up my sleeves and get to it. If this is the kind of self-effects I can expect I may have to space this out carefully so that i can keep experiencing them. ---
**Author:** ![SomeoneOrNot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/someoneornot/32/205_2.png) [@SomeoneOrNot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SomeoneOrNot)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2012, 8:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/someoneornots-irresponsibly-updated-journal/56263/79 "2012-10-02T20:30:55Z")
So this is what I wrote at work: 12:38 interesting, it sends to affect my adhd a bit. my focus is better, i feel like I’m slightly more on the same timing page as the neurotypical community. a sense of relaxed expectancy as well. i _dig_ this stuff! 3:36 still feeling focused and cheerful. not anxious despite members of my training group being let go. Normally this would concern me more. Laughing at jokes people tell more. I suppose i feel socially integrated, “I am part of this team” etc 4:15 whoa, wearing off i started to really space out. People have been fairly friendly all day, bosses taking some extra interest in me in positive ways but it’s difficult to say if that has any relation to the pheromones. 5 - Pretty much completely gone at this point. watch that last step, it’s a doozy. Going to eat lunch and reapply the same amount. (forgot my change at the drive through and had to go back.) 5:41 reapplied. oh yes, one additional observation - people who normally don’t talk to anyone much were filling me in on the details of what happened during the morning shift. again, inconclusive since two people were fired earlier so it’s am unusual circumstance, but these two never talk to anyone. this was…around one thirty or so I’d say. I’d say that this is a social, in the “we’re all on the same side here” sense. If further testing indicates that it cuts down on unnecessary competitiveness (as opposed to necessary of course) then I’m a fan. i hate that nonsense. So my final conclusions…I’d say that this is underrated. Sure, it’s not a standalone product - but it’s a putative, they rarely are. It has some definite benefits for me personally, and it made my day go by at a better subjective pace at work. Also, everyone seemed to be in good spirits but working hard. This one is definitely useful, I’m interested to see how it steers other molecules and mixes. I’ll be doing more tests of this one without a doubt. ---
**Author:** ![SomeoneOrNot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/someoneornot/32/205_2.png) [@SomeoneOrNot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SomeoneOrNot)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 7:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/someoneornots-irresponsibly-updated-journal/56263/80 "2012-10-03T19:45:41Z")
Whew! Day 2, didn’t sleep as well last night for unrelated reasons…and when the P92 wore off (single spray, 12.5mcg to the chest area of my shirt instead of my neck this time) it made me _super_ groggy. Just…totally unable to focus for a while. It was unpleasant. I stared at the computer at work for about five minutes without really having a single thought about anything. Then it wore off and I was fine after about half an hour or so. So, not surprisingly it’s no substitute for a good night’s rest. ---
**Author:** ![SomeoneOrNot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/someoneornot/32/205_2.png) [@SomeoneOrNot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SomeoneOrNot)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 8:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/someoneornots-irresponsibly-updated-journal/56263/81 "2012-10-03T20:17:40Z")
Oh wow, I had totally forgotten about something, however. At lunch, I sprayed 1 spray of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) more or less reflexively - I’ve gotten in the habit of refreshing it at the 5 hour mark when I’m working, although I’m thinking I may take a break from it for a little while. It’s definitely my favorite product (although A314 is basically almost tied with it and may continue to gain ground) but I have been wearing it nearly every day for over a month now and the self-effects are basically completely gone at this point. Need a serious break from it, more than just a single day here and there. _Anyway_ - this may have had something to do with the results of that P92 crash, I didn’t even think about having done that until now, and they would have been wearing off within an hour or two of each other based on when I applied the P92. Hmmm…interesting. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/someoneornots-irresponsibly-updated-journal/56263.md?page=3) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/someoneornots-irresponsibly-updated-journal/56263.md?page=5)