# SomeoneOrNot's irresponsibly updated journal

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/someoneornots-irresponsibly-updated-journal/56263>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [July 30, 2012, 1:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/someoneornots-irresponsibly-updated-journal/56263 "2012-07-30T13:20:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![SomeoneOrNot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/someoneornot/32/205_2.png) [@SomeoneOrNot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SomeoneOrNot)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 9:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/someoneornots-irresponsibly-updated-journal/56263/82 "2012-10-03T21:13:18Z")

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Okay, updated list time:  
**Commercial Products:**  
**A314** - oil  
**A314/b** -spray  
**Instant Honesty  
Instant Openness  
AMMO Summer 2012 Edition  
Instant Shine**

_(And From LS, digging through my desk drawer I realize I should really figure out what to do with some of the things I don’t use anymore, maybe trading post, or give them to a friend of mine who I think could benefit from Pheros)_  
**WAGG**  
**NPA**  
**Chikara**  
**Liquid Trust** (I agree that it _shouldn’t_ work, by all the science I’ve heard, but there seems to be _something_ to it that isn’t simply beta -nol. I dunno, I like it though)  
**Perception** packet of uselessness  
**Alter Ego** for men sample  
**Chikara** sample gels  
**Edge** Wipe  
Some product called “ **Mistress** ” that contains female pheros. Little sample bottle

**Experimentals & Putatives:**

**P130** 12.5mcg/spray sample in Neroli  
\*\*MX297  
\*\ ***P83** 5mcg Neroli spray  
**P83** 10mcg Neroli spray  
**TAA** 7.5mcg Grapefruit spray  
**TAK** 5mcg Grapefruit spray  
**TAC** 5mcg Grapefruit spray  
**P75** 5mcg Grapefruit spray  
**P74** 5mcg Grapefruit spray  
**TAL** 12.5mcg Neroli spray  
**TAH** 12.5mcg Neroli spray (this isn’t entirely accurate, the bottle I had was such a hit with a lady friend that I gave it to her, but I’ve ordered another one so it evens out)  
**P92** 12.5mcg Grapefruit spray  
**P104** 12.5mcg Grapefruit spray  
And coming soon in the mail - **P102** 5mcg Neroli spray

\*(Also, from LS)  
\*\*\*Beta -nol \*\*Chemset edition.  
**A1**

**Miscellaneous:**

**Perfumer’s alcohol** and a variety of different scents and tools for DIY cologne making. (synthetic ambergris, various fragrance notes including **Clary Sage** , etc)

Some old blends that I made back when I was just mixing together commercial products from LS, before I discovered AD. They are labeled “ **Magic Feather** ” and “ **Sex Panther** ” - naturally.

Three _ **very special** _ ingredients, two of them related to perfumery and one of them related to some interesting recent developments in biological sciences that I hope to begin studying at some point when I’ve got more time, perhaps in the spring. Whether they relate to pheromones directly or not is hard to say, but one of them has definite potential from what I can tell. I’m not keeping this a secret out of any info-hoarding tendency or anything but I want to do more research before I go spilling my half-baked theories all over the place. (And hell, if I _did_ turn out to be on to something I’d rather give **AD** a shot at it than their competitors…but I’m not getting my expectations too high on my idle speculations)

Oh, and last but not least, a bottle which contains basically a combination of portions of all the [female pheromone](https://phera.com/) samples, sprays, and miscellany that I’ve gotten over the years. I dab a tiny bit on my nose whenever I’m wearing a combo that might make me overly aggressive and it calms me down. Works as a great mood elevator as well.

…so a couple of things about this list, and correspondingly this space. If anyone is reading this (I know a few of you pop in from time to time at least) any requests for testing? I’m still testing P92 for the next few days but I haven’t really done extensive testing of lots of these putatives. I did a little with MX297 but I could do more. It tends to make me anxious sometimes and I gather that it’s a complicated enough mix that it doesn’t blend well for most people. Anyway, I’m open to suggestions, otherwise I’m just going to move through them more or less randomly.

The other thing is, I’m really considering making notes regarding my DIY fragrance making, but I worry that it will fill this journal up with posts that are only tangentially related to pheromones. Suppose I could always start another thread, maybe over in the parfum section of the forum…I may do that when the rest of my supplies arrive.

EDIT:  
So one last thing before I sleep, since I’ve been all wired up and posting too much today - I used the excellent A1 guide found [here](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668) to turn the A1 into a 5mcg spray. To be honest I’m probably not going to mess with it too much as it can cause that depression effect if I wear it too many times too close together, but eventually…

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