# Spaceland and non-androstenone products with Asian women: is every mix a problem? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 9, 2007, 5:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spaceland-and-non-androstenone-products-with-asian-women-is-every-mix-a-problem/3568 "2007-05-09T05:14:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![perronec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/perronec/32/1280_2.png) [@perronec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/perronec)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 5:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spaceland-and-non-androstenone-products-with-asian-women-is-every-mix-a-problem/3568/1 "2007-05-09T05:14:05Z")
Hey everyone, I’ve read in a few places that Asian women tend not to enjoy hardly any amount of -none. I was wondering whether or not they were non-compatable with all mixes, or just -none heavy ones. A while back, I was with my Chinese tutor(she’s Asian born, but Americanized. I’m a Chinese minor in college), and she asked me “are you wearing cologne?” and I suddenly remembered putting ammo on because I was going to meet a girl I was interested in before going to the tutor. “Oh yeah” I said. “Oh!” she said , and I looked at her funny and I was expecting her to elaborate, but she just shook her head, and we got down to my chinese homework. Usually she’s pretty friendly. The time before that she had said she was going to make me meet her parents when I came to Shanghai(I’m going from august, until my second or third visa runs out) but that day it was all business. Today, I was running late, but I figured I would try something else to make things a little chattier. I put: 2 sprays of Spaceland to the back of my head 1 spray of Eternal by CK(I’m not really bothered by spaceland’s smell myself, but I’m afraid others might be.) I figured I would make her either really chatty or potentially burn her neurosensors out. **BUT IN THE NAME OF SCIENCE I PRESSED ON!!** (don’t worry i’ve read toilofday’s thread where he wore 10 sprays) Anyways, I got there at 9:30PM, and her shift in the help center was over at 10PM, so I figure I’ll just have to work fast. We started, and I just felt ‘on’ all my jokes were funny, my chinese seemed to flow better, and she couldn’t stop feeding me complements. I looked down at my cellphone to check the time, and it was 10:20. I mentioned that she didn’t have to stay, and that I could finish the rest on my own, but she just shook her head like I was uttering nonsense and we kept on working and chatting. This answers the question of whether Alpha Androstenol effects Asians. I would venture to say that beta-Androstenol due to similarity in nature would work well too, but I havn’t field tested that. I’ve heard that mx200 works well for attraction. Has anyone else tried other types like: TAA or Shine p74 p79 p90 p98 Instant Female magic Pheroproof(see below for disclaimer as i know this has -none in it) _disclaimer_ Also, i’ve noticed that pheroproof does a pretty good job of covering up the -none it contains. Once I almost thought that one Asian girl was staring at me DIHL style, but it was hard to be sure as she is pretty shy. (I recently asked her to a cocktail party held by my fraternity, and she said yes instantly and was really really excited I asked. She is a Japanese exchange student, not an american born asian. I was not wearing [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) at the time that I asked her to the party.) I hadn’t really ever spoken with her besides that one time when I wore pheroproof, but not much was said, and one other time several weeks ago. Other than that it was all smiles and waves. It’s hard to tell if she was attracted from the pheroproof or not. I’m not sure if all this was common knowledge, but I figured I would post it anyway, as it was news to me. I’m sorry if you think that way, but there is just no way possible that I can give your 40 seconds back to you. **As for my opinion of Spaceland:** 2 sprays to the back of the head makes me a little chatty, and she laughed at everything I said(I think I can be pretty funny when im ‘on’, and I felt ‘on’),but it wasn’t anything rediculous, just a good conversation. I felt pretty smooth overall.🙂🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 8:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spaceland-and-non-androstenone-products-with-asian-women-is-every-mix-a-problem/3568/2 "2007-05-09T08:07:07Z")
You really can’t generalize for all other males based on this one Chinese woman (may apply perfectly for you). I’m Asian and mainly live and work among Asians of every nationality and age. Yes, East Asian women tend to be more sensitive to androstenone than White or Black women. However that does not mean they can’t tolerate or even be enticed under the influence of androstenone. I wear androstenone products nearly every day around Asian women–old country and local–and get wonderful results. In fact, I can almost swim in the dad burn funky fluid and it just keeps getting better… I believe the question of androstenone’s effectiveness is closely linked to the wearer’s race, culture, persona and body chemistry. As a mellow Asian male I can wear much more androstenone than most White and Black men. Most of the “advice” about how much androstenone to wear and avoid ODs is totally wrong for me. Why? I probably have little natural production and Asian women tend to be comfortable with me. I can say, my use of The Edge and NPA has helped lead to some really wild times with my Korean, Japanese, Thai and Vietnamese GFs. ---
**Author:** ![perronec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/perronec/32/1280_2.png) [@perronec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/perronec)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 12:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spaceland-and-non-androstenone-products-with-asian-women-is-every-mix-a-problem/3568/3 "2007-05-09T12:20:55Z")
I’ve read pretty much everywhere that pheromone effects differ by body type, and that makes sense. My experience happened to be in line with what was predicted ( im 22 White male with what is most likely a decent -none output) Im just really interested to see if there are other interesting trends other people have noticed, now that we have noticed one. I see this Chinese girl quite often, so I’ll keep testing differnent pheromones on her and see what happens. My goal is to have a really solid understanding of how each pheromone i have is going to effect asians, because im going to be living in China for a substantial period of time, and i want to have the correct supplies with me that will actually help me(my alterior motive, you caught me!😉) It is good to know that if i were somehow able to reduce my none production (like strong anti-persperant) i may be able to wear none around asian women. (although if I’m already putting it out, and they arn’t reacting badly, there may be no point.) more testing is in order!😃😃 DAMN i love science! ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 8:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spaceland-and-non-androstenone-products-with-asian-women-is-every-mix-a-problem/3568/4 "2007-05-09T20:07:44Z")
Wo de tai tai shi zhongguo ren. Ta lai zi Beijing. Qi shi, Zhongguo ren ye dui pheromones hen mingan. Youyu wenhua bei jing bu tong, tamen de fanying keneng bu mingxian. ---
**Author:** ![perronec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/perronec/32/1280_2.png) [@perronec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/perronec)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 9:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spaceland-and-non-androstenone-products-with-asian-women-is-every-mix-a-problem/3568/5 "2007-05-09T21:20:05Z")
第一个问题： 你试很多Pheromones在你的太太吗？ 你找到什么事？ 第二个问题： 你的最喜欢Pheromone你用在你的太太是什么？ ~裴龙 Lets keep things in english from now on, so that we can help others besides ourselves. His last post said his wife was a Chinese native from Beijing, and that chinese people tend to be very sensitive to pheromones because the ‘culture’ is different I’ll let him translate my post so you all can find out what I asked. PS. GWTW, don’t come back at me with some really difficult Chinese, as simple conversation is the limit of my abilities k??😃😃 ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 9:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spaceland-and-non-androstenone-products-with-asian-women-is-every-mix-a-problem/3568/6 "2007-05-09T21:41:32Z")
A -none OD is a strange thing with Asians in my experience. When I am in the -none OD zone, the asian guys around me start getting massive hits from other asian girls, DIHL and what not, while I get total indifference and sometimes overt avoidance. Limited amount of -none suitably buffered has gotten me good responses but it has been pretty hit and miss so far. P.S. Can you try that P98 in say 20-30 mcg dose range with your Chinese tutor and let us know? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 9:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spaceland-and-non-androstenone-products-with-asian-women-is-every-mix-a-problem/3568/7 "2007-05-09T21:52:01Z")
Wee I had a good night last night with a high androstenone mix. Asian women too! ---
**Author:** ![perronec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/perronec/32/1280_2.png) [@perronec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/perronec)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 10:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spaceland-and-non-androstenone-products-with-asian-women-is-every-mix-a-problem/3568/8 "2007-05-09T22:05:27Z")
I don’t currently have P98, but i was wondering if anyone else had tried it. I will probably be picking it up soon to give it a test drive. Now now Sigma, how can you whet my appetite for knowledge like that and give me no explanation. Lets hear the details of your mix! OUT WITH IT MAN!😮 ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 3:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spaceland-and-non-androstenone-products-with-asian-women-is-every-mix-a-problem/3568/9 "2007-05-10T03:55:16Z")
> [@perronec](#): > > I don’t currently have P98, but i was wondering if anyone else had tried it. I will probably be picking it up soon to give it a test drive. > > Now now Sigma, how can you whet my appetite for knowledge like that and give me no explanation. Lets hear the details of your mix! OUT WITH IT MAN!😮 P74 P79 [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/) Turn Up The Heat A314 Lots of really masculine notes in that mix but it went well To sum things up succinctly Went out with a lady I’ve been dating, and she couldn’t keep her hands offa me the whole night. We’ll leave it at that. Bumped into a girl from school later in the night (while the lady was off with her friends), who buys me a shot of patron. After I take it she says “I don’t think I need to tell you this, but you’re hot. Give me a kiss on the cheek.”…which I snuck in while no one was looking hah ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 4:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spaceland-and-non-androstenone-products-with-asian-women-is-every-mix-a-problem/3568/10 "2007-05-10T04:37:16Z")
> [@perronec](#): > > 第一个问题： 你试很多Pheromones在你的太太吗？ 你找到什么事？ > > 第二个问题： 你的最喜欢Pheromone你用在你的太太是什么？ > > ~裴龙 > > Lets keep things in english from now on, so that we can help others besides ourselves. > > His last post said XXX > > I’ll let him translate my post so you all can find out what I asked. > > PS. GWTW, don’t come back at me with some really difficult Chinese, as simple conversation is the limit of my abilities k??😃😃 Perronec, You blew my cover! I try not to leave too many obvious personal details on the forum so I’d appreciate it if you would edit your post to delete the information I’ve deleted with XXX in the quote above. I don’t mind the forumites knowing my details but I’d rather not leave them in the searchable forum record. Without translating your questions in detail, I’ve tried most of the Androtics products on Asians. Almost all produce reactions. Some favorites are TUTH, PheroProof. IH, IS and numerous other products tend to cause funny feelings in the head, but still are effective. I’ll be trying out some P98 soon too! ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 4:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spaceland-and-non-androstenone-products-with-asian-women-is-every-mix-a-problem/3568/11 "2007-05-10T04:37:53Z")
> [@sigma](#): > > P74 P79 P93 Turn Up The Heat A314 [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) is now on my NEXT list; and the application points of those were? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 4:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spaceland-and-non-androstenone-products-with-asian-women-is-every-mix-a-problem/3568/12 "2007-05-10T04:42:35Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > P74 is now on my NEXT list; and the application points of those were? > > Thanks! wrists and neck ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 5:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spaceland-and-non-androstenone-products-with-asian-women-is-every-mix-a-problem/3568/13 "2007-05-10T05:21:13Z")
> [@](#): > > Perronec, You blew my cover! I try not to leave too many obvious personal details on the forum so I’d appreciate it if you would edit your post to delete the information I’ve deleted with XXX in the quote above. I don’t mind the forumites knowing my details but I’d rather not leave them in the searchable forum record. Sheesh you’re paranoid. Your wife being a “Chinese native from Beijing” puts you in the company of millions. I think you can stop worrying and continue your stealthy little posts with glee. Now that I think of it, my neighbor’s wife is from Beijing. Hopefully you’re not him. Is your wife a concert pianist and Juilliard graduate? Just jerkin’ your chain…😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 5:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spaceland-and-non-androstenone-products-with-asian-women-is-every-mix-a-problem/3568/14 "2007-05-10T05:21:21Z")
I tried editing my previous post but the forum-monster keeps eating my edits. I’ll just make a new post to say what I left out. What I wanted to add is that [pheromone](https://a314.com/) reactions of various Asian peoples may not be easily identifiable by westerners, due to cultural differences and different cultural expectations. That doesn’t mean that the reactions are not there. They are often quite strong and evident to those with the eyes to see them. ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 3:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spaceland-and-non-androstenone-products-with-asian-women-is-every-mix-a-problem/3568/15 "2007-05-10T15:11:07Z")
Gegogi, Your ability to perceive motivations in others appears to be as highly developed as your courtesy and compassion. I sincerely thank you for the lesson. It was valuable, even if unpleasant. I will adjust my foolish behaviors on the forum accordingly. I can imagine that the combination of a sharp wit and keen intelligence, a position of power over students in an educational setting, and the demonstrated character traits cause occasional, or perhaps even frequent, discomfort. That leads me to consider that besides the social enhancement effects of pheromones that we frequently discuss on the forum, pheromones may have additional uses as prosthetic molecules. ---
**Author:** ![pheroasian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheroasian/32/2114_2.png) [@pheroasian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pheroasian)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 3:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spaceland-and-non-androstenone-products-with-asian-women-is-every-mix-a-problem/3568/16 "2007-05-10T15:56:37Z")
My order of [MX200](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx200/)-MX201 has been shipped out. I am going to test it on all Asian environment. Plus I am Asian as well. So there is no cultural barrier and I shall report if there is any difference.😛 ---
**Author:** ![Y3LLoWF3LLoW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/47e85d/32.png) [@Y3LLoWF3LLoW](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Y3LLoWF3LLoW)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 4:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spaceland-and-non-androstenone-products-with-asian-women-is-every-mix-a-problem/3568/17 "2007-05-10T16:06:07Z")
I just ordered ammo, tuth, and a314. Although I mostly interact with asians, they are all americanized. So my question is, will I get negative effects? is it cultural or biological? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 7:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spaceland-and-non-androstenone-products-with-asian-women-is-every-mix-a-problem/3568/18 "2007-05-10T19:19:25Z")
I’m impressed. I’m glad you feel better now. ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 10:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spaceland-and-non-androstenone-products-with-asian-women-is-every-mix-a-problem/3568/19 "2007-05-10T22:17:24Z")
try MX105 . it will be sexual to her. its basically a A314 for asians (because of its very light tone). maybe add a little TAA/Instant Shine. ive gotten good IOIs with this one (asians that werent friends of course) Weird thing is a I can wear -none around my Korean girlfriend, but then again we’ve been together for a couple of years (on and off) so she usually turns into a little school girl, puts her chin in her chest (like someones whispering in her ear) and giggles. we have a history of whats going to happen next. [now with a stranger, i dont think it would work the same way lol.] this of course is if i use 1:1 with alphanol. oh and i have to add the only --none I have is from the T experiement series, so im sure there are buffers in there, not sure what they are tho. she has been very good to me since ive started my dosage of P79 +P74+P90. She also reacts very very well to [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), ive come to learn she cant argue the same way in person (as opposed to the phone) because of it. its funny, because on the phone she’s a lion, but in person after about 5 sprays of Instant Female Magic, she’s much more of a listener. ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 10:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spaceland-and-non-androstenone-products-with-asian-women-is-every-mix-a-problem/3568/20 "2007-05-10T22:23:47Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > I wear androstenone products nearly every day around Asian women–old country and local–and get wonderful results. In fact, I can almost swim in the dad burn funky fluid and it just keeps gettinga cultural disconnect as Koreans and Chinese are sorta like oil and water. um. you’re asian dude, of course you can wear -none, its not clashing with your natural chemistry, like it would for me. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spaceland-and-non-androstenone-products-with-asian-women-is-every-mix-a-problem/3568.md?page=2)