# Spice Advice With EOW

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spice-advice-with-eow/6947>\
**Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [November 26, 2007, 10:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spice-advice-with-eow/6947 "2007-11-26T22:37:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![PlainJane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dec6dc/32.png) [@PlainJane](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PlainJane)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2007, 10:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spice-advice-with-eow/6947/1 "2007-11-26T22:37:32Z")

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I wish there were more posters on this forum … so anyone out there with EoW experience please let me know!

I think I’ve read almost everything on the forum about EoW and I guess I’m going to order some -

I realize there’s no “sure thing”, but it sounds like most people have luck with this? If you have had luck, I want to hear it, and if you haven’t, I want to hear it too. It sounds like since I’m older, I’d need to up the amount I’m using - does it matter what the age of the target guy is? Do younger guys need less, older guys need more, or is it all based on the woman’s age?

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2007, 12:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spice-advice-with-eow/6947/2 "2007-11-27T00:27:37Z")

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There aren’t any rules … individual results vary. You’ll have to experiment to find out if it does anything for you or the men in your life. There are some huge fans of EoW on this forum; I’m not one of them.

Large doses of EoW don’t do much sexually for my husband the way other things do: Scent of Eros, or a tiny amount (1-2 drops of a 10% solution) of EoW well covered with perfume, or yesterday’s dose of EoW, combined with some androstenone-containing product like Dirty or NPA/w, for example.

Part of the problem is that EoW doesn’t smell good. Real joyjuice does. The product is not a very good approximation of a scent that should be highly arousing.

I get best results from other people when I’m feeling a good amount of positive self-effect from whatever I wear - then the phero signature is more aligned with the attitude and vibe I emanate.

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**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2007, 7:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spice-advice-with-eow/6947/3 "2007-11-27T07:39:34Z")

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The amount used should be determined by your age, if you’re on birth control and even bathing habits. There is a great article about this in the Studies & Abstracts section. [Copulins: pheromone excerpts from The Science of Sex](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins/1601)

If you follow Bunny’s instructions in the stickied thread titled Newbie with a few questions you should see some result. If not, test for your own sweet spot by lowering or raising the amount in one drop increments. The dry down is absolutely necessary if you’re applying it straight or it will stink up again after it is re-wet with perfume.

I’ve seen varying results with it myself, from no acknowledgment to instant erection. What I am sure of is that my husband reacts better if I have worn it for several hours before he is exposed.

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**Author:** ![dolly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dolly/32/1591_2.png) [@dolly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dolly)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2007, 3:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spice-advice-with-eow/6947/4 "2007-11-28T15:37:54Z")

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I have been using EW for about 4 years now…I absolutely swear by it. I have applied it in all methods imagineable…straight to the skin (both wearing a cover AND wearing it with no cover), added to spray or oil perfumes (and to phero mixes), mixed in lotion, and even added to my homemade soap.

However, EW is not for everyone. Some do not get their desired results, and some cannot stand the smell…the dried down scent will vary on each individual. This can be due to a woman’s own chemistry (just as with regular perfumes), or to a variance in the EW batch itself. The only way you will know if it is for you is to try it. If you do order some, there is no “proper” amount to use. Start with one drop and work your way up. Experimentation is the only way that you can find your proper dosage. Definitely do read Bunny’s post in the women’s section sticky.

Also, please take note: EW has been known (in some instances) to create a full-on sexual reaction from males. If you wear it in a highly public setting, you must be prepared for this. Some men react to it, and some don’t. Some newbies have had a negative experience and getting responses that they were not fully prepared for.

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**Author:** ![PlainJane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dec6dc/32.png) [@PlainJane](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PlainJane)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2007, 11:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spice-advice-with-eow/6947/5 "2007-11-28T23:25:04Z")

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Okay - I did it, I placed my order…

I really hope this wasn’t $ down the drain. I’ll let you know as soon as I try it out!

Another question: does EoW do anything for the wearer? Make you feel sexy or horny or anything?

I know I have to experiment before I’ll know what works, but what’s a good starting point? Based on what I’ve read, I plan to put it on early in the day when I want it to work at night (to let it mellow? supposed to be more effective?) and since I’m older, I might need more than a couple of drops … I see that some women went up to 10 drops, but where should I start?

HOW STINKY IS THIS STUFF??? Can I cover it with my regular scent? Will I get so used to the stench after wearing it all day that I won’t even realize I stink?

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**Author:** ![NancysBoy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nancysboy/32/391_2.png) [@NancysBoy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NancysBoy)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 6:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spice-advice-with-eow/6947/6 "2007-11-29T06:07:38Z")

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> [@PlainJane](#):
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> Another question: does EoW do anything for the wearer? Make you feel sexy or horny or anything?

It makes me very horny, very quickly.

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> I know I have to experiment before I’ll know what works, but what’s a good starting point? Based on what I’ve read, I plan to put it on early in the day when I want it to work at night (to let it mellow? supposed to be more effective?)

If you are not going to be around target men, I don’t think you should wear it, unless you just like being followed around by howling, drooling men.

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> and since I’m older, I might need more than a couple of drops … I see that some women went up to 10 drops, but where should I start?

Standard advice here - start small and build up as needed.

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> HOW STINKY IS THIS STUFF??? Can I cover it with my regular scent? Will I get so used to the stench after wearing it all day that I won’t even realize I stink?

To me, it smells like the most wet woman I ever imagined. I can’t smell it from a distance, but I suspect some women might be able to.

Good luck - I know EOW works, I just hope you get what you want from it, too.🙂

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 11:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spice-advice-with-eow/6947/7 "2007-11-29T11:32:36Z")

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> I really hope this wasn’t $ down the drain. I’ll let you know as soon as I try it out!

Just keep in mind this is something you need to work with. Took me a month until Dolly mentioned something in her posts that made me realize why I was having problems. Now its great.

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> Another question: does EoW do anything for the wearer? Make you feel sexy or horny or anything?

I do get a girly sexy feeling from it. Depends on the situation whether it makes me feel horny there has to be some other stimulas like some eye candy around and then I will feel it but its still subtle. You wont walk around horny all day if thats your concern. Now if you encounter TUTH that another story LOL.

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> I plan to put it on early in the day when I want it to work at night (to let it mellow? supposed to be more effective?) and since I’m older, I might need more than a couple of drops … I see that some women went up to 10 drops, but where should I start?

I wear it to work, Dolly wears it where ever she wants. (she works at home most times) I think if you have the personality that can handle guys hitting on you then put it on in the morning and touch it up just a tad before you see your target guy. Again this will take testing.  
I also suggest doing a search in the forum on all of Dollys posts and Bunnys posts. They helped me the most in using EOW.

I use between 8 to 10 drops with husband. I use about 3 to 5 for other situations so I get a more subtle effect. You may need more or less. One of my Best friends at work is male. He knows I use mones and he has tried them as well. I am able to gage my dose on his reactions pretty well. He cant smell the EOW but he always knows when I have it on. He will blurt something out like “JC your giving me a woody today, what are you wearing”

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> HOW STINKY IS THIS STUFF??? Can I cover it with my regular scent? Will I get so used to the stench after wearing it all day that I won’t even realize I stink?

It smells sort of cheesy and sort of like rotton grapes. Very hard to discribe and everyone picks up something different with it. God I have some industrial cops that dolly gave me and they are so, so, so bad lol. I still havnt gotten the guts to try them out.

Dry down is important. wait 10 to 15 to add your cover scent. Or you can try mixing it with some oil or perfumes in a little roller bottle. The girls have alot of tips on that all over the forum. I use several different methods depending on my mood. I have mixes I made in a atomizor with perfume and a few droppers of EOW. I have some roll ons with just a little. I have it mixed in lotion. I wear it straight sometimes. I have even worn it with no cover just to test it out. Never once have I got a “you smell” reaction. In fact I got compliments on how I smelled and I almost laughed because here I am getting ready to have a possible smelly bad day.

Pink suger really is one of the best covers for it. It also is a scent men usually love. I get compliments on it even without mones but with them they go bonkers over it.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![dolly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dolly/32/1591_2.png) [@dolly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dolly)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2007, 4:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spice-advice-with-eow/6947/8 "2007-12-02T04:38:11Z")

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The only time I have gotten the “you smell” reaction is from my 8 year old son…I can put on one drop of it, with a cover, and he’ll pick it up.

I think it is because, for the last several years, I have been stinking up the bathroom mixing the stuff…😮

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**Author:** ![PlainJane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dec6dc/32.png) [@PlainJane](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PlainJane)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2007, 4:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spice-advice-with-eow/6947/9 "2007-12-02T16:53:53Z")

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How did the name of my post change to “spice advice with EoW”? What does that even mean?

Thanks to everyone who’s answered so far. I’m hoping it’s going to come in the mail tomorrow and I’ll get to try it out.

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**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2007, 7:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spice-advice-with-eow/6947/10 "2007-12-02T19:44:56Z")

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My husband can detect 1 drop of EOW in a bottle of BBW Warm Vanilla Sugar lotion if I’ve applied a little to my hands. And he _doesn’t_ like it.

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> The only time I have gotten the “you smell” reaction is from my 8 year old son…I can put on one drop of it, with a cover, and he’ll pick it up.
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> I think it is because, for the last several years, I have been stinking up the bathroom mixing the stuff…😮

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**Author:** ![PlainJane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dec6dc/32.png) [@PlainJane](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PlainJane)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2007, 8:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spice-advice-with-eow/6947/11 "2007-12-02T20:17:35Z")

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> [@Carrie](#):
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> My husband can detect 1 drop of EOW in a bottle of BBW Warm Vanilla Sugar lotion if I’ve applied a little to my hands. And he _doesn’t_ like it.
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Oh crap - I really hope I didn’t waste money on this stuff.

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**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2007, 8:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spice-advice-with-eow/6947/12 "2007-12-02T20:28:36Z")

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Only one way to find out - and most women here like using it. I use it too, just in very small amounts and very well covered.

My bottle is from 2-3 years ago (it’s not from the beta batch, though) and it may very well have been stronger/funkier than recently sold bottles - batches vary and I’ve heard some women say recently they didn’t think it smelled bad at all, kind of fruity … mine smells like vinegar, expensive cheese and overripe fish. It smells like bacterial vaginosis and I think I’d complain if my partner wore it, too :o

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**Author:** ![PlainJane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dec6dc/32.png) [@PlainJane](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PlainJane)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2007, 8:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spice-advice-with-eow/6947/13 "2007-12-02T20:55:12Z")

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> … mine smells like vinegar, expensive cheese and overripe fish. It smells like bacterial vaginosis and I think I’d complain if my partner wore it, too :o

HOLY CRAP. I hope my nose works well and I don’t walk around offending anyone without knowing it.

YIKES. 😮

I’m really impatient for it to get here so I can experiment! But if it smells like rotten fish I don’t think I’ll be brave enough to even try.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2007, 9:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spice-advice-with-eow/6947/14 "2007-12-02T21:24:27Z")

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I agree Carrie the bottles I have bought recently smell much different then the ones I bought over a year ago. Mine sort of smell like rotten grapes and cheese. My husband cant smell it unless he is holding the bottle up to his nose and taking a wiff. He actually likes the scent LOL.

I wear a tremendous amounts and so does dolly and a few other people I know here on the forum and here at home. None of us have ever had anyone say anything other then compliments on how we smell as far I as know. I cant not even detect when my friends have it on and I know what it smells like. Carries batch is probably much stronger then the more recent batches. When EOW was first released in the beta version it was not diluted at all. It was so bad you had to open the bottle outside with gloves and googles on. Really I am not kidding. LOL I think to sell more product and to avoid refunding they have been working on the smell.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2007, 4:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spice-advice-with-eow/6947/15 "2007-12-03T04:22:00Z")

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I think I too have a super stinky bottle, it is about 2 years old. Don’t buy your bottles 2 at a time to avoid this. I never thought to return them, I had read eow does stink. While I detest it and try to keep moving to avoid the smell while applying my husband has never once commented that it smells bad or asked about it.

That is even when I’m applying a light mango body spray that I ruined by dumping half a bottle of eow in to it, it smells like rotted mango with asiago or romano cheese. 🙄

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**Author:** ![nosemolester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nosemolester/32/1782_2.png) [@nosemolester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nosemolester)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2008, 12:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spice-advice-with-eow/6947/16 "2008-06-27T00:26:33Z")

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so does it work better the older it gets?

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**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2008, 1:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spice-advice-with-eow/6947/17 "2008-06-27T01:19:27Z")

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No - it works better if you get some from a batch that’s not too strong 🙂
