# Spiked my Ammo and Instant Shine with a well known pheromone additive! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 17, 2008, 10:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spiked-my-ammo-and-instant-shine-with-a-well-known-pheromone-additive/22992 "2008-11-17T22:31:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SyraBrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@SyraBrian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SyraBrian)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 10:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spiked-my-ammo-and-instant-shine-with-a-well-known-pheromone-additive/22992/1 "2008-11-17T22:31:58Z")
Here’s what happened. Ordered Athena 10X and a travel bottle to mix it in. Travel bottle was left out of my order. I was going to use the travel bottle to mix the Athena with Pheromol Factor. My Pheromol Factor bottle was too full to mix, so being impatient and unwilling to wait until the travel bottle arrived, I mixed the Athena 10x with what was left of my Ammo and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) 2x to go bottles. I now have an Ammo togo that’s roughly a three to one ratio of Athena to Ammo, and an Instant Shine2x/Athena mix that’s roughly 3:2 in favor of the Instant Shine. Of course, I then piggybacked onto my sister’s order to get new Ammo and Instant Shine togo’s. So I’ll soon have spiked and regular versions of both. Maybe I’ll do a little contrast and compare… ---
**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 10:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spiked-my-ammo-and-instant-shine-with-a-well-known-pheromone-additive/22992/2 "2008-11-17T22:48:29Z")
Hmmm, from what Gegogi has said in the past, mixing [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) does have some effect on the scent at anything less than 5:1 ratio. Brian, let us know how that works for you. Any idea what pheromones are in the Athena 10x? ---
**Author:** ![SyraBrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@SyraBrian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SyraBrian)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 11:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spiked-my-ammo-and-instant-shine-with-a-well-known-pheromone-additive/22992/3 "2008-11-17T23:10:55Z")
Don’t know. I remember a post from either here or the other forum from a poster who claimed to know the [pheromones](https://a314.com/) involved. He inicated that one was extremely expensive to make. He said that he used to disperse the pheromone through air vents at clubs and parties and then watch the crowd get giddy. ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 12:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spiked-my-ammo-and-instant-shine-with-a-well-known-pheromone-additive/22992/4 "2008-11-18T00:34:03Z")
> [@SyraBrian](#): > > …Of course, I then piggybacked onto **my sister’s order** … Does she post here?? ---
**Author:** ![Bonecrkr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@Bonecrkr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bonecrkr)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 5:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spiked-my-ammo-and-instant-shine-with-a-well-known-pheromone-additive/22992/5 "2008-11-18T05:11:58Z")
I’m not even close to being impressed by AthenaX. It’s not an outright scam like I consider Pherlure to be. But it is definitely the weakest product I own. Very few hits…really, only the occassional hit with older women. If you want a [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) additive to regular cologne, New Pheromone Addititive is pretty good. Love Scent sells it. ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 6:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spiked-my-ammo-and-instant-shine-with-a-well-known-pheromone-additive/22992/6 "2008-11-18T06:09:09Z")
ya i never got any legit response to athena for men. won’t bother trying that one again. ---
**Author:** ![SyraBrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@SyraBrian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SyraBrian)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 9:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spiked-my-ammo-and-instant-shine-with-a-well-known-pheromone-additive/22992/7 "2008-11-18T21:53:35Z")
> [@josef](#): > > ya i never got any legit response to athena for men. won’t bother trying that one again. I’ve ordered it four times, and it’s always added to whatever [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) I mix it with. It seems to add a “lovey-dovey” type of response. Women are warmer, softer and simply more comfortable around me. It adds a more romantically affectionate vibe rather than a sexually affectionate vibe. Out of nowhere, I’ve had woman flash a big grin and blurt out a “You’re soooo cute!” at me. ---
**Author:** ![Bonecrkr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@Bonecrkr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bonecrkr)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 11:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spiked-my-ammo-and-instant-shine-with-a-well-known-pheromone-additive/22992/8 "2008-11-18T23:18:54Z")
I can certainly see where you are coming from with this. Which is why I don’t consider AthenaX an outright fraud, like I do with Pherlure. Could just be my own pheromones and personality don’t mix well with the effect. I get good responses from heavy -none products…NPA, alpha-7, Axcite etc. and barely anything from more “social” blends…WAGG, Chikara, Scent of Eros etc. However, AthenaX is definitely the one that gives the least response of anything I have (and I have quite a few). > [@SyraBrian](#): > > I’ve ordered it four times, and it’s always added to whatever pheromone product I mix it with. It seems to add a “lovey-dovey” type of response. Women are warmer, softer and simply more comfortable around me. > > It adds a more romantically affectionate vine rather than a sexually affectionate vibe. Out of nowhere, I’ve had woman flash a big grin and blurt out a “You’re soooo cute!” at me. ---
**Author:** ![SyraBrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@SyraBrian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SyraBrian)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 10:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spiked-my-ammo-and-instant-shine-with-a-well-known-pheromone-additive/22992/9 "2008-11-19T22:13:21Z")
> [@Mtnjim](#): > > Does she post here?? I have two sisters who have made a grand total of four posts combined. ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 1:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spiked-my-ammo-and-instant-shine-with-a-well-known-pheromone-additive/22992/10 "2008-11-20T01:42:01Z")
> [@SyraBrian](#): > > I have two sisters who have made a grand total of four posts combined. Active aren’t they??😃