# spreadsheet summarising putatives & MX **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 6, 2007, 7:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spreadsheet-summarising-putatives-mx/4008 "2007-06-06T07:51:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2007, 7:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spreadsheet-summarising-putatives-mx/4008/1 "2007-06-06T07:51:20Z")
I now have [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) - 1..? and losing track a bit of which of the forum feedback on the more obscure notes so I made this for myself and thought why not share. posted here for now [Google Docs & Spreadsheets - Mix Guide](http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pQNd0an1GwdasioEPdlh_IA) it’s not complete - please post to the thread (not as a PM) if there is something I should add. if you’ve been posting here a while, PM me your email and I will give you permission to edit. ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2007, 6:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spreadsheet-summarising-putatives-mx/4008/2 "2007-06-06T18:31:54Z")
Very good idea and sorely needed! I’m a little apprehensive about the current hosting solution. It would be nice to have a stable solution not subject to personal conflicts on the forum, accounts being deleted, someone’s death, etc. I wonder if Jasmin could somehow “officially” host it. It would be beneficial for there to be some sort of control over it. Backups, prevention of deletion of data, etc. Persons will have different experiences and somehow we need to distil the overall impressions from a lot of anecdotal data. We also need to guard against the initial poster noting something, then everyone jumping in with “yes, what he said.” This can both suppress valuable differing information from emerging, and artificially inflate the significance of whatever the first responder said. I’m not sure how to get around that one. Just some thoughts. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2007, 6:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spreadsheet-summarising-putatives-mx/4008/3 "2007-06-06T18:49:23Z")
> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#): > > Very good idea and sorely needed! > > I’m a little apprehensive about the current hosting solution. It would be nice to have a stable solution not subject to personal conflicts on the forum, accounts being deleted, someone’s death, etc. I wonder if Jasmin could somehow “officially” host it. Isn’t google stable enough for the time being? I like the idea of this document. ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2007, 7:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spreadsheet-summarising-putatives-mx/4008/4 "2007-06-06T19:03:50Z")
> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#): > > Very good idea and sorely needed! > > I’m a little apprehensive about the current hosting solution. It would be nice to have a stable solution not subject to personal conflicts on the forum, accounts being deleted, someone’s death, etc. I wonder if Jasmin could somehow “officially” host it. > > It would be beneficial for there to be some sort of control over it. Backups, prevention of deletion of data, etc. Persons will have different experiences and somehow we need to distil the overall impressions from a lot of anecdotal data. > > We also need to guard against the initial poster noting something, then everyone jumping in with “yes, what he said.” This can both suppress valuable differing information from emerging, and artificially inflate the significance of whatever the first responder said. I’m not sure how to get around that one. > > Just some thoughts. all of the above is fair enough. but right now i would (selfishly, for my ends) rather have an organic solution that more or less works than wait for something perfect. there are only a few experienced phero users exploring the putatives who write up their results. the ultimate coordinator of feedback is androtics (via the forum and via other means), so it’s not like a great deal is lost should the sheet break for some reason. all the sheet is doing is saving time doing searches for the more obscure putatives, so i don’t think it makes the problem of biased feedback any worse. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2007, 7:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spreadsheet-summarising-putatives-mx/4008/5 "2007-06-06T19:04:52Z")
Great job!! I am going to PM you with a couple more MXes. ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2007, 7:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spreadsheet-summarising-putatives-mx/4008/6 "2007-06-06T19:07:19Z")
> [@bosshank](#): > > Great job!! I am going to PM you with a couple more MXes. thanks. would you mind posting any info that doesn’t need to be private (such as an email address) on this thread? my PM box is close to full… ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2007, 7:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spreadsheet-summarising-putatives-mx/4008/7 "2007-06-06T19:10:44Z")
> [@PheroQuirk](#): > > all of the above is fair enough. but right now i would (selfishly, for my ends) rather have an organic solution that more or less works than wait for something perfect. there are only a few experienced phero users exploring the putatives who write up their results. the ultimate coordinator of feedback is Androtics (via the forum and via other means), so it’s not like a great deal is lost should the sheet break for some reason. all the sheet is doing is saving time doing searches for the more obscure putatives, so i don’t think it makes the problem of biased feedback any worse. True. Anything is better than nothing. I have (had?) on my to-do list building a similar Excel inventory/effects tracker for my personal use. I had not considered sharing it though. Kudos to you for a community-minded approach. I’d rep you if I could, but the system says I have to spread stuff around first. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2007, 7:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spreadsheet-summarising-putatives-mx/4008/8 "2007-06-06T19:19:51Z")
**MX165:** This is 12.5mcg per spray of [P86](https://pheromonelabs.com/) in a base of Neroli. **MX166:** This is 12.5mcg per spray of [P81](https://pheromonelabs.com/) in a base of Neroli. **MX167:** This is 12.5mcg per spray of [P86](https://pheromonelabs.com/) in a base of Chocolatini. **MX168:** This is 12.5mcg per spray of [P81](https://pheromonelabs.com/) MX169: [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) 1.0 + 20mcg [TAA](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/). MX170: [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) 1.0 + 20mcg [P79](https://pheromonelabs.com/). MX171: [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) 1.0 + 12.5mcg [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/). MX 172: Sprayable test mix of classic A314, based on MX 102, with 14 [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/), scent with light neroli. Classic A314 respect vibe softened with a “romance” (not 'none) note. MX 173: Sprayable test mix of classic A314, based on MX 102, with 15 pheromones, scented with light neroli. MX 174: 37.5 mcg per spray 4 pheromone mix using women’s pheromones (including Molecule H and Molecule L). Chocolatini base scent. MX 175: 37.5 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) of American made human pheromones total per spray, just different ratios of each from MX 174. Chocolatini base scent. MX 237: MX 169 in a neroli base. I have tested MX 169 through MX 173. I have since reordered both MX 237 and MX 172. ---
**Author:** ![AussiePhero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aussiephero/32/1329_2.png) [@AussiePhero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AussiePhero)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2007, 11:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spreadsheet-summarising-putatives-mx/4008/9 "2007-06-06T23:11:18Z")
Thanks PheroQuick for starting this .. HELPs me out a LOT (me being a n00b with not much cash 🙂 ) and BOSSHANK .. awesome post ^^^ .. saves me doing a whole lot o searching !!! ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2007, 11:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spreadsheet-summarising-putatives-mx/4008/10 "2007-06-06T23:26:27Z")
Thanks Pheroquirk for putting it together! It can be really helpful for a quick glance. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 12:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spreadsheet-summarising-putatives-mx/4008/11 "2007-06-07T00:42:51Z")
The only question I have is … is Jasmine or MHarris going to verify the effects of the Ps? If not, who’s the man to step up and say what does what, and then, if it’s true because he said it? Example: 🆒 Examine: “Hey, [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) makes me fun!” Musk: “Hey, P74 makes me dance!” M&M: “Hey, P74 makes me horny!” Jasmine: P74 was designed to make you more relaxed. Good job, PQ!! If this post confuses you … just ingnore it, I’m still trying. ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 2:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spreadsheet-summarising-putatives-mx/4008/12 "2007-06-08T14:30:29Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > The only question I have is … is Jasmine or MHarris going to verify the effects of the Ps? If not, who’s the man to step up and say what does what, and then, if it’s true because he said it? > > Example: 🆒 > > Examine: “Hey, P74 makes me fun!” > > Musk: “Hey, P74 makes me dance!” > > M&M: “Hey, P74 makes me horny!” > > Jasmine: P74 was designed to make you more relaxed. > > Good job, PQ!! > > If this post confuses you … just ingnore it, I’m still trying. I’m only going to add stuff that has already been posted on the forum (and would ask other editors to do the same). The idea is just to save time searching when you receive a new putative, say. In an ideal world with each new mone I would start from scratch with no initial biases and see what I notice. In practice I don’t have the time to do that for many mones and I am hungry to get the most benefit I can as quickly as possible. Also once one’s attention is drawn to focusing, say, on the group co-ordinating properties of a mone one can notice nuances that wouldn’t have been visible had one’s perception not been primed. Jasmin has her own sheet that I am guessing has much richer detail than is posted here (since some people report their experiences in person or on the phone). I’ll filter reports by my personal biased impression of credibility (based on how long they have been around, revealed expertise, track record etc). If we hear different things from two different credible users then we can just note those differences. ---
**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 11:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spreadsheet-summarising-putatives-mx/4008/13 "2007-06-08T23:11:19Z")
> [@PheroQuirk](#): > > I’m only going to add stuff that has already been posted on the forum (and would ask other editors to do the same). The idea is just to save time searching when you receive a new putative, say. A good strategy, PheroQuirk. From someone who knows, this will take a terrific amount of work. I thought it would only take me a few hours. Ha! How wrong was I? 🙄 Anyhow, looking forward to the finished result. I’m working on upgrading mine now that P74 and P79 have been upgraded to [Pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) status. Musk ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2007, 6:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spreadsheet-summarising-putatives-mx/4008/14 "2007-06-09T06:23:47Z")
Yes good work PQ! Something like this is badly needed with all the mixes and putatives here! I will try and make updates to [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/), P76, P83, etc sometime… Visionary ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 1:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spreadsheet-summarising-putatives-mx/4008/15 "2007-06-13T01:32:47Z")
The google spreadsheet copies easily to Excel. I was looking at building an inventory of what I’ve got, and this just saved me a lot of typing. I just copied the contents of each sheet, put the cursor on the first cell in Excel, and pasted. The first row was offset but I just cut it and pasted it where it should be. THANKS PQ! ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2007, 12:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spreadsheet-summarising-putatives-mx/4008/16 "2007-07-30T00:47:05Z")
starting to summarize some of the best posts. here is the first part of the ‘wisdom of tacitus’ [Wisdom of tacitus](http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dg2mpp76_6x3bb5p) ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 4:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spreadsheet-summarising-putatives-mx/4008/17 "2007-09-18T04:55:38Z")
The spreadsheet needs MOAR updating : And what happened to the mx100-112? If anything, put mx103 back in there. ---
**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 7:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spreadsheet-summarising-putatives-mx/4008/18 "2007-09-18T19:11:17Z")
great job! Way to organize thisss ---
**Author:** ![Saccerdude24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/898d66/32.png) [@Saccerdude24](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Saccerdude24)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 7:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spreadsheet-summarising-putatives-mx/4008/19 "2007-09-18T19:30:50Z")
This is an amazing reference guide!! Are people continually adding to it, or is it just kind of sitting there as is? If we could try to get more complete information on some of the mixes and putatives then that would be great! (going to help contribute on a few of the ones that I have, a couple of which have very little info) ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 9:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spreadsheet-summarising-putatives-mx/4008/20 "2007-09-18T21:28:31Z")
I have updated [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) (as well as P93 which was mostly done a few weeks back) on the Spreadsheet now. Yea I agree it is a very useful piece of work as there are so many MXs and putatives around. -Visionary [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spreadsheet-summarising-putatives-mx/4008.md?page=2)