# stand alone porducts **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 17, 2009, 5:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stand-alone-porducts/34165 "2009-11-17T17:34:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tramatized](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@tramatized](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tramatized)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2009, 5:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stand-alone-porducts/34165/1 "2009-11-17T17:34:40Z")
Which products are extremely effective by themselves and what are thier typical results? ---
**Author:** ![tramatized](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@tramatized](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tramatized)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2009, 5:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stand-alone-porducts/34165/2 "2009-11-17T17:36:08Z")
i meant to say products…by the way ---
**Author:** ![Butcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f08c70/32.png) [@Butcher](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butcher)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stand-alone-porducts/34165/3 "2009-11-17T18:00:10Z")
All of the Instant line products, as well as A314 are very effective! They are well tested and proven consumer products 🙂 Check out the sticky threads for more info: > [@Basic Noob Phero Bootcamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159): > > Ok. Feel free to correct any errors I may have made. This took forever to write, so I hope you like it. Chapter 1 Alpha Androstenone: In the forum this is commonly referred to as –none or none. It is a hormone produced in men and women’s sweat. (significantly less if women) “Androstenone is the first mammalian pheromone to be identified.” ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androstenone](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androstenone)) Androstenone has the ability to cause arousal in women during their ovulation. It also has the ability cause irr… > [@The Snook's big book o' pheros for rookies](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-snooks-big-book-o-pheros-for-rookies/5879): > > So many pheros, so many newbs asking the same questions… I’ll break this down in a few different ways. Section one is for high school. two is for work. three is for clubbing. four is miscellany. NOTE: I will only be covering the pre-mixed products on this page, since it is being written for beginners. If you’re new to pheromones, please leave the TA, P, and MX series for later, once you’re a believer that -mones can do all I say they can below. Section one High School Firstly, if you’re unde… ---
**Author:** ![conundrum12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/46a35a/32.png) [@conundrum12](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/conundrum12)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 12:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stand-alone-porducts/34165/4 "2009-11-19T00:35:30Z")
What butcher said and I have the most individual success with ammo. It is somewhat social and also sexual, I’m 20 and have yet to overdose up to 3 sprays. Wore it to a strip club 3 sprays and definitely got a lot more attention than the other dudes in there (2 strippers talking to me after their dances, etc. and no, i wasnt tipping obscene amounts). It could have also been because I was young. It’s also good just on a daily basis as a cologne. Tuth and ammo you’ve got to be careful on their own, both are pretty powerful and can cause intimidated and even angry responses by themselves. IO isn’t bad by itself, gets you to open up and others to open up, but without any honesty it’s small talk/ not deep conversation. Honesty is good by itself if you want intense conversations but may be weird if you have a conversation with someone for the first time and don’t want to hear about all their current problems and life history. CTTM2 solves the IO/IH problem for the most part. Shine is good by itself, gets you social and everyone else social. Makes everyone physically feel better and makes you more confident. IG can stand alone but better buffered imo because it can come across as too gentlemany, or too jerky/cocky has happened to me. And of course, spaceland is always great by itself 🙄