# Started Using Again, Ammo Making Me Feel Weird **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 26, 2013, 7:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/started-using-again-ammo-making-me-feel-weird/60106 "2013-09-26T19:38:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Quantum09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e56c9b/32.png) [@Quantum09](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Quantum09)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 7:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/started-using-again-ammo-making-me-feel-weird/60106/1 "2013-09-26T19:38:18Z")
Hey Everyone, I started experimenting with pheros back in 2008 and have experienced first hand how well they work. I used to use the fundamental formula varying different ratios of A314, [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), IS, IO, IH. I stopped using them because I was in an LTR. I’ve recently decided to have some fun with them as various signs from the universe have suggested I do so. I started off using solely A314 for some business-related stuff and sometimes with IO to buffer on certain occasions. Everything was fine. Watching my female attorney dilate and stare at me in awe reminded how fun this stuff really is. More recently, I’ve incorporated Ammo, IS, P75 and IH. I’ve had the following issues: (1) I’ve narrowed it down and realize that, for some reason, Ammo is making me feel weird/sick. When I use Ammo, I’m experiencing issues similar to what other users have reported. It immediately pushes me into a state of brain fog and I begin to feel awkward and uneasy. It’s difficult to explain, but it pushes me out of my normal mental framework in a negative way. When I wake up the next morning I feel hungover like I’m coming down from a bad high. (2) Both instances when I’ve applied a combination of a314, IO, IH, Shine, Ammo I’ve felt sick to my stomach. The first instance, after about 2-3 hours, I felt like my body was overheating and ended up throwing up. Despite feeling physically sick from the application, the pheros nonetheless were effective based on my ongoing interactions with others at this meeting. However, it was affecting me in a negative way for some reason. The second application instance, the same “overheating” sensation came over me but not as bad. I felt sick and couldn’t eat, but didn’t throw up the 2nd time. Being a long time phero user, and having never had any issues applying these same pheros in the past, its obviously concerning to come back and have this happen. More importantly, I need to find a substitute for Ammo that will steer my a314 in that same direction while avoiding whatever is negatively affecting my cognition and mood. Thoughts are welcome. ---
**Author:** ![XyzN](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xyzn/32/2416_2.png) [@XyzN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XyzN)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 9:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/started-using-again-ammo-making-me-feel-weird/60106/2 "2013-09-27T09:11:20Z")
Maybe its just Ammo’s scent that is making you feel ill? There’s the other FF22 [World Edition](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/world-edition/) & Summer one still. It would not surprise me if it was, Ammo has a very strong scent. Course I enjoy it cause of that reason. I let it die down ~15mins though before actual encounters. ---
**Author:** ![Quantum09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e56c9b/32.png) [@Quantum09](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Quantum09)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2013, 2:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/started-using-again-ammo-making-me-feel-weird/60106/3 "2013-09-28T14:28:21Z")
> [@XyzN](#): > > Maybe its just Ammo’s scent that is making you feel ill? There’s the other FF22 World Edition & Summer one still. > > It would not surprise me if it was, Ammo has a very strong scent. Course I enjoy it cause of that reason. I let it die down ~15mins though before actual encounters. Its definitely not the scent of ammo bothering me. I actually enjoy the smell of ammo. Also, it wouldnt explain the negative cognitive effects its having on me. Can anyone recommend a replacement for ammo that will steer my mix in the same direction. ---
**Author:** ![XyzN](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xyzn/32/2416_2.png) [@XyzN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XyzN)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2013, 4:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/started-using-again-ammo-making-me-feel-weird/60106/4 "2013-09-28T16:38:12Z")
So you’ve used Ammo few years back and it didn’t cause you problems back then? Maybe you are responding to a change in the recipe of Ammo that has changed over time? Androtics does this without telling its consumers often. ---
**Author:** ![Quantum09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e56c9b/32.png) [@Quantum09](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Quantum09)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2013, 8:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/started-using-again-ammo-making-me-feel-weird/60106/5 "2013-09-28T20:03:53Z")
> [@XyzN](#): > > So you’ve used Ammo few years back and it didn’t cause you problems back then? > > Maybe you are responding to a change in the recipe of Ammo that has changed over time? Androtics does this without telling its consumers often. Yeah that’s what I was thinking, or another phero. I actually just got back from a date that I wore: A314 x3 P75 x1 (just picked something to replace Ammo with) Shine x3 (or x4, can’t remember) IO x2 It actually went quite well, but its still putting me off cognitively. I basically go on autopilot and turn into a master conversationalist. But, it’s almost too much. I feel like I’m coming out of a daze afterward. I had the same physical feeling of getting really hot and feeling a bit sick. I had trouble eating my dinner. Normally, I would be inclined to attribute it to nerves on getting back out and dating, but I’ve been on dates where I just wear A314 and IO and I’m fine. I’m almost wondering if I’m just wearing TOO much pheros and my body is freaking out. I used to smoke marijuana excessively back when I wore pheros in '08, so I wasn’t as self-aware of my mental state. ---
**Author:** ![Unique](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unique/32/935_2.png) [@Unique](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Unique)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2013, 5:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/started-using-again-ammo-making-me-feel-weird/60106/6 "2013-09-29T05:40:51Z")
odd, ammo makes me feel a sense of comfort in my own skin maybe the phero sig just doesn’t work for you? ---
**Author:** ![Quantum09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e56c9b/32.png) [@Quantum09](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Quantum09)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2013, 11:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/started-using-again-ammo-making-me-feel-weird/60106/7 "2013-09-29T11:49:11Z")
> [@Unique](#): > > odd, ammo makes me feel a sense of comfort in my own skin > > maybe the phero sig just doesn’t work for you? I agree something about ammo could be putting me off. My concern is with the physical reaction three separate times. Im trying to test different combos to isolate it but im not sure. I was hoping someone might be able to recommend an ammo replacement in the interim