# Starting out with 'mones: Takin' it nice and slow... NOT!

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**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [October 5, 2010, 6:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340 "2010-10-05T06:57:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 9:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/242 "2011-10-26T21:57:41Z")

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Started the day feeling good! Well, I had an amazing sleep cycle… Since last week, I’ve been using the Sirius light machine (Thx Steve!!! 🙂, working wonderfully!) so, I’ve noticed a progressively better sleep cycle.

Well, that let’s you know what kind of mood I was in and then I applied:

**3D x A314 -** 1 to top of hands, 1 ea, behind the ears.  
**2 x IS\*2 -** 1 to wrist and 1 on top of head/hair  
**2 x TUTH -** 1 to top of hands and one to back of neck

2 hours after application, I was at a job site. I was confident and a bit brash. I had a smile on like I came into a small mound of money, and asked to speak with S. The young plump Asian gal was quick to jump out of her chair and start looking for S. As soon, as she stepped on the threshold of the door going into the offices, she quickly turned around and apologized. ‘I’m sorry, I was in a hurry to get him for you… I forgot to ask you for your name!’ She included a shy smile with that statement. I told her it’s 1Alpha and that’s quite all right… I’ll wait for you!

S was not expecting me, contrary to what my office had told me. So, I quickly filled him in on what was the purpose of my visit. He was quite willing to help out however he could. He brought me an extra table and chair in case I needed to have additional work space. Then, when he left me, he said, are you sure you don’t want anything else? Then scribbled on a piece of paper his cordless extension number and told me to call him if I needed anything else.

While I’m working, an older Asian gal, late 40’s (?) walked toward me and I smiled and greeted her. She was going to the closet next to the cubicles, where I was working. She greeted and did her thing then, left. She came back about 10 minutes later, right up to me smiling and opened up a package of long, thin, round, crackers(?). She said they were Chinese and had dark brown sugar baked into them. I grabbed one, thanking her again and saying thanks for thinking of me. She smiled broadly and mentioned that I shouldn’t be working through lunch. I told her I already had lunch, but I appreciate the dessert. She turned around and got in close to offer me some more of these thin round crackers. She told me to take several!  
Great I said… You’re going to make me fat! She responded, you aren’t fat, you look good the way you are…! She nearly beamed at me with her smile as she left.  
Every so often, she would walk by and smile toward me. I smiled back at her, but, she seemed to make it a point to catch my smile back at her.

As I left, S and I were talking… no, not the two letters 😛… he made it a point to offer me some beverage before I left. He offered me some hot tea, soda, or water. I told him I had to leave, so a water bottle would be great! He obliged and was asking if I can be the one returning to the clients office, the following visit. I told him I’ll see if I can make that happen.

All in all, very good day!

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**Author:** ![Joe10](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/joe10/32/300_2.png) [@Joe10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Joe10)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 10:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/243 "2011-10-26T22:59:19Z")

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> [@1Alpha](#):
>
> Started the day feeling good! Well, I had an amazing sleep cycle… Since last week, I’ve been using the Sirius light machine (Thx Steve!!! 🙂, working wonderfully!) so, I’ve noticed a progressively better sleep cycle.
> 
> Well, that let’s you know what kind of mood I was in and then I applied:
> 
> **3D x A314 -** 1 to top of hands, 1 ea, behind the ears.  
> **2 x IS\*2 -** 1 to wrist and 1 on top of head/hair  
> **2 x TUTH -** 1 to top of hands and one to back of neck
> 
> 2 hours after application, I was at a job site. I was confident and a bit brash. I had a smile on like I came into a small mound of money, and asked to speak with S. The young plump Asian gal was quick to jump out of her chair and start looking for S. As soon, as she stepped on the threshold of the door going into the offices, she quickly turned around and apologized. ‘I’m sorry, I was in a hurry to get him for you… I forgot to ask you for your name!’ She included a shy smile with that statement. I told her it’s 1Alpha and that’s quite all right… I’ll wait for you!
> 
> S was not expecting me, contrary to what my office had told me. So, I quickly filled him in on what was the purpose of my visit. He was quite willing to help out however he could. He brought me an extra table and chair in case I needed to have additional work space. Then, when he left me, he said, are you sure you don’t want anything else? Then scribbled on a piece of paper his cordless extension number and told me to call him if I needed anything else.
> 
> While I’m working, an older Asian gal, late 40’s (?) walked toward me and I smiled and greeted her. She was going to the closet next to the cubicles, where I was working. She greeted and did her thing then, left. She came back about 10 minutes later, right up to me smiling and opened up a package of long, thin, round, crackers(?). She said they were Chinese and had dark brown sugar baked into them. I grabbed one, thanking her again and saying thanks for thinking of me. She smiled broadly and mentioned that I shouldn’t be working through lunch. I told her I already had lunch, but I appreciate the dessert. She turned around and got in close to offer me some more of these thin round crackers. She told me to take several!  
> Great I said… You’re going to make me fat! She responded, you aren’t fat, you look good the way you are…! She nearly beamed at me with her smile as she left.  
> Every so often, she would walk by and smile toward me. I smiled back at her, but, she seemed to make it a point to catch my smile back at her.
> 
> As I left, S and I were talking… no, not the two letters 😛… he made it a point to offer me some beverage before I left. He offered me some hot tea, soda, or water. I told him I had to leave, so a water bottle would be great! He obliged and was asking if I can be the one returning to the clients office, the following visit. I told him I’ll see if I can make that happen.
> 
> All in all, very good day!

Good post Mr. VIP. In fact, your whole journal is a very good read.

Thank you for taking the time to share your experiences with us. Now, if only the TAC in your cart… 😛

God bless

Joe

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 10:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/244 "2011-11-04T22:41:18Z")

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Just got my order of mones!!! 🙂 I wanted to try out P81 as well as an MX412, the A1 alternative… Is it REALLY an alternative?! I’ll have to try that one out soon. I also orderd TAC at 10 mu and TAA at 15 mu.

For my wife, I ordered MX397 and MX398 and have her give those a go!

AND : \>\>\>\>\> I got the ANOL split test pack!!! WOOOHOOO!!! Thanks JS!

Things are good! 🙂

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**Author:** ![CBusinesstime](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cbusinesstime/32/1746_2.png) [@CBusinesstime](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CBusinesstime)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 10:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/245 "2011-11-10T10:22:29Z")

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> [@1Alpha](#):
>
> Just got my order of mones!!! 🙂 I wanted to try out P81 as well as an MX412, the A1 alternative… Is it REALLY an alternative?! I’ll have to try that one out soon. I also orderd TAC at 10 mu and TAA at 15 mu.
> 
> For my wife, I ordered MX397 and MX398 and have her give those a go!
> 
> AND : \>\>\>\>\> I got the ANOL split test pack!!! WOOOHOOO!!! Thanks JS!
> 
> Things are good! 🙂

Can’t wait for your results bro! I always enjoy reading your stuff. I’m back again trolling haha..Seems like you’ve been consistent..and there are new MX’s?! Good to hear! I’m a bit behind, but I’ll try to catch up. I had taken quite a long hiatus due to some situations, but I’ll be on as much as I can. 😃

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 3:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/246 "2011-11-10T15:39:39Z")

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OOOH P81 should be a fascinating test for you. Looking forward to those reports 😉

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**Author:** ![raqy101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@raqy101](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/raqy101)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 8:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/247 "2011-11-13T08:05:44Z")

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amazing read keep up the good work

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 8:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/248 "2011-11-14T20:13:56Z")

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Personal Thoughts on Mones… 1Alpha’s ramblings!

I have this nagging feeling that this has been touched on in my stroll through this labyrinth of a forum. I’ve been reading up on the forum and thought about how mones fit in the social equation. Some have proposed that certain none heavy products are prone to cause fisticuffs… others, that an other than desired response will be directed at the mone wearer. Or that the user will be getting women clawing all over him like a 21st century Casanova. Also, that being Ghosted, completely ignored, is a likely outcome to an exaggerated application of none.

At my current level of mone experience, I can see that _ **all** _ of the above are possible. Some are more likely to occur than others. This does not make it more so because of my own personal experience. Maybe when I’ve applied a certain product, I’ve seen brawls breaking out more commonly than being ghosted, as an example. There are several variables that would need to be considered to see what is _ **LIKELY** _ to occur. I’ll try to direct my ramble on this.

**What Attitudes are projected?**

I realized the attitude and ‘presence’ of the wearer will bear a strong influence in which direction the mone reaction will take. As to ‘presence’, that is, are they imposing or impressive in their character? Or is the user lacking in character and positive qualities? Is he/she a ninnyhammer? This will have a direct impact on the influence of mones. I think this has a reciprocal relation to the environment that the user finds himself in. Is he using mones in a clubbing environment, partying, work, school, gym, church gatherings? Some environments, such as the first two indicated require a disihibited tendency, more of an animalistic attitude to get a ‘response’ (Ex. Having sex). A shy wallflower will not have the same reactions. This brings me to the next point.

**How does the mone affect to me and those around me?**

Does the wearer have a general goal when wearing the mone or is he with a ‘set it and forget it’ mindset? This is either a good thing or bad… as congruence is not easily achieved without direction, a tendency or inclination of the user. Others have a ‘natural’ congruence to the mones they are using. This congruence factor has also been exhaustively examined in these forums. It’s a factor that is one of the most important variable to effectively using mones. You MUST be in a state of agreement with the mone signal you’re wearing. If contradictory signals are projected from your mones and yourself, either the mones effectiveness will be seriously diminished or completely ignored. I also include this as it can have a negating effect, when the subconscious of those around you cannot correlate the mones to the actions and attitudes of the user. You must be comfortable with yourself, at the very least, to let the mones signal do their thing!!! Otherwise, the mone signal is ignored.

What reactions does the wearer have to the mones, normally? Are they aware of how mones will affect their emotional balance? I was wearing a particular P in my testing and found that it completely exhausted my patience level. It brought out the inner bitch in me! I was short tempered at work, with friends, everyone close to me. I was ticked at any little thing that was said, in the wrong way… I was seriously pissed! I found that others in my mone cloud would also likely develop similar tendencies with sufficient exposure time. The P’s effects would diminish over time; it was about 3 to 4 hours when the effects would fade away completely. I DID NOT know what this P would do to me or those around me. Could I use it effectively in a social setting? Obviously not, until I eventually saw the trending of this P. Others have reported differing responses to mine on this P. If I would have used their experiences with this P as a foundation in a combo of mones for use at work, for example, I would have failed dramatically!

**In what mental state are the people that I’m trying to influence?**

Realizing that others have their own ‘things’ going on will help in understanding that mones will NOT affect everyone the same way. Just knowing that will temper expectations.

I was walking my dog, a beautiful retriever, and often get compliments on her expression, coat and temperament. While we were walking down the street, a women in her mid 30’s was doing her morning walk, walking up the street. I smiled at her and gave her a warm greeting. What was her response? She straightened her back, lifted her chin slightly, and continued walking. She wasn’t wearing headphones, listening to music. If that were the case, I would have just smiled, tried to make eye contact and just nod. But, she did NOT have a positive reaction to my greeting. I was considering that the smile, the warm tone of voice, some mone or even my dog’s presence would elicit at least a basic response, a salutation. Nope!

As I continued on, I also saw walked by a man who was opening up the parking area of an office where I supposed he works. As he had already unlocked and was in the middle of moving the chain off to one side of the parking entrance I was approaching him. I, again smiled, and gave my morning salutations. His response? No smile, but a nod in my direction. His was a minimal response.

I was slowly being overtaken by a father and his son, @ 7 years old or so. The boy was being taken to school a few blocks away. I had my dog heel next to me on some grass, a bit off of the sidewalk. This was to allow them more room to pass. Some people are nervous around ANY type of dog. As he approached, I also greeted with a similar enthusiasm and get a reciprocal response. His smile was infectious as well as his son’s. They briefly stopped and asked if my dog can be petted. I agreed and a few seconds later, they were off again with smiles and good-byes. I also had a mother and son walking close behind this father and son, greet and smile as well, to my offerings of good morning.

Were mones at work here? Not at all, as I wasn’t wearing any. The only output was the ones I naturally produce. However, what was going through the first women’s mind? Did she have an argument with her boyfriend that morning before going out for her morning walk? Did she have a disturbingly frustrated call from her mother accusing her of being distant with her? Had she been bothered by guys during her morning walk and I reminded her of those situations? I don’t know! She was not in the mood for conversation, even a basic human one, such as a greeting.  
Was the man not responding to my natural mones? Did he have something against dogs? Is he racially biased? Was he late for work? I don’t know! His mood was leaning toward a focus on his ‘things’ and cut the small talk.  
The man and the woman with the kids were more inclined to be friendly. Could it have been reversed, the man and woman with the kids respond coldly or not at all and the first two respond warmly? Sure! But, it happened this way, the friendly dog could have put them in a good mood. My warm smile could have been contagious. My natural mones could have a nol like aspect to them. My exercise wardrobe could have put them at ease as to my intentions.

In all of these cases, the synthetic mone aspect was not part of the equation. Their mental disposition was at work in their responses. This, tempered with the chilly external environment, would have either handicapped or aided a particular mone application.

**Other thoughts….**

I had another experience with IShine and A314. While I was wearing these, I met a girl friend that I hadn’t seen in several months. Her greetings were warm enough, but, I noticed her hugs on greeting and departure were distant, as if she was holding back. It was more of a slight hug from the shoulders, sideways hug. She will normally be more of a frontal hugger. In talking with her, she’s been having guy difficulties as well as family problems, primarily with her father. Her response to my A314 and IShine? Could it be that she was subconsciously taking out her problems on me? Seeing me primarily as a daddy/male figure?

A week later, we met again, I was mostly wearing IShine as I had only a couple of drops of A314 from 7 hours earlier. My IShine was refreshed from that early morning application, an hour or so before meeting her again. This time, her hugs lasted longer with a prolonged boobing upon greeting. Her smile and body language was inclined toward me. The departure was a basically a hug and a boob rub up and down before releasing. Surprising for sure, as I wasn’t expecting it, from my previous interactions with her. She was all smiles and honestly wanting to spend some time with my wife and I later in the week. Her mental disposition had handicapped my mones and later aided my mone application. That’s the way I see it.

Please feel free to comment on these points or not. I’ve taken this textual stroll to annotate some of my thoughts on mones. I like to share this reflection with others, as well as to my future self! 🙂

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 8:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/249 "2011-11-14T20:28:08Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
>
> OOOH P81 should be a fascinating test for you. Looking forward to those reports 😉

Allright! I’ll take a look at this P… I’m in the middle of some additional P100 tests, ATM.

I’ll keep it in mind! 🙂

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 5:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/250 "2011-11-16T17:39:36Z")

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Well, I did it again… ☹ I’ve gone to see doctors…☹

I went to the hospital ER, as i was in an accident… busted a rib and I’m black and blue, though more blue/green than black, on the side of my torso. Arm is tweaked, and hurts like the dickens!! 😛 I got a couple of medications, for inflammation and Vicodin for the pain.

I’ll be out from work a few days at least, so in regards to any mone testing, it will likely be in self effects… 🙂

tootles!

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 6:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/251 "2011-11-16T18:41:34Z")

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Take care of yourself my friend. We need to get you some padded gear.

Ribs really hurt so don’t laugh, but smile a lot. I hope you feel healthy again real soon. Lots of positive love coming your way.

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**Author:** ![maksimus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f8ce5/32.png) [@maksimus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/maksimus)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 6:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/252 "2011-11-16T18:48:18Z")

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Oh no! Sorry to hear that. Hope you feel better soon my friend.

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**Author:** ![Marihino](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marihino/32/1286_2.png) [@Marihino](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marihino)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 6:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/253 "2011-11-26T18:05:31Z")

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> [@1Alpha](#):
>
> I have this nagging feeling that this has been touched on in my stroll through this labyrinth of a forum. I’ve been reading up on the forum and thought about how mones fit in the social equation. Some have proposed that certain none heavy products are prone to cause fisticuffs… others, that an other than desired response will be directed at the mone wearer. Or that the user will be getting women clawing all over him like a 21st century Casanova. Also, that being Ghosted, completely ignored, is a likely outcome to an exaggerated application of none.
> 
> At my current level of mone experience, I can see that _ **all** _ of the above are possible. Some are more likely to occur than others. This does not make it more so because of my own personal experience. Maybe when I’ve applied a certain product, I’ve seen brawls breaking out more commonly than being ghosted, as an example. There are several variables that would need to be considered to see what is _ **LIKELY** _ to occur. I’ll try to direct my ramble on this.
> 
> **What Attitudes are projected?**
> 
> I realized the attitude and ‘presence’ of the wearer will bear a strong influence in which direction the mone reaction will take. As to ‘presence’, that is, are they imposing or impressive in their character? Or is the user lacking in character and positive qualities? Is he/she a ninnyhammer? This will have a direct impact on the influence of mones. I think this has a reciprocal relation to the environment that the user finds himself in. Is he using mones in a clubbing environment, partying, work, school, gym, church gatherings? Some environments, such as the first two indicated require a disihibited tendency, more of an animalistic attitude to get a ‘response’ (Ex. Having sex). A shy wallflower will not have the same reactions. This brings me to the next point.
> 
> **How does the mone affect to me and those around me?**
> 
> Does the wearer have a general goal when wearing the mone or is he with a ‘set it and forget it’ mindset? This is either a good thing or bad… as congruence is not easily achieved without direction, a tendency or inclination of the user. Others have a ‘natural’ congruence to the mones they are using. This congruence factor has also been exhaustively examined in these forums. It’s a factor that is one of the most important variable to effectively using mones. You MUST be in a state of agreement with the mone signal you’re wearing. If contradictory signals are projected from your mones and yourself, either the mones effectiveness will be seriously diminished or completely ignored. I also include this as it can have a negating effect, when the subconscious of those around you cannot correlate the mones to the actions and attitudes of the user. You must be comfortable with yourself, at the very least, to let the mones signal do their thing!!! Otherwise, the mone signal is ignored.
> 
> What reactions does the wearer have to the mones, normally? Are they aware of how mones will affect their emotional balance? I was wearing a particular P in my testing and found that it completely exhausted my patience level. It brought out the inner bitch in me! I was short tempered at work, with friends, everyone close to me. I was ticked at any little thing that was said, in the wrong way… I was seriously pissed! I found that others in my mone cloud would also likely develop similar tendencies with sufficient exposure time. The P’s effects would diminish over time; it was about 3 to 4 hours when the effects would fade away completely. I DID NOT know what this P would do to me or those around me. Could I use it effectively in a social setting? Obviously not, until I eventually saw the trending of this P. Others have reported differing responses to mine on this P. If I would have used their experiences with this P as a foundation in a combo of mones for use at work, for example, I would have failed dramatically!
> 
> **In what mental state are the people that I’m trying to influence?**
> 
> Realizing that others have their own ‘things’ going on will help in understanding that mones will NOT affect everyone the same way. Just knowing that will temper expectations.
> 
> I was walking my dog, a beautiful retriever, and often get compliments on her expression, coat and temperament. While we were walking down the street, a women in her mid 30’s was doing her morning walk, walking up the street. I smiled at her and gave her a warm greeting. What was her response? She straightened her back, lifted her chin slightly, and continued walking. She wasn’t wearing headphones, listening to music. If that were the case, I would have just smiled, tried to make eye contact and just nod. But, she did NOT have a positive reaction to my greeting. I was considering that the smile, the warm tone of voice, some mone or even my dog’s presence would elicit at least a basic response, a salutation. Nope!
> 
> As I continued on, I also saw walked by a man who was opening up the parking area of an office where I supposed he works. As he had already unlocked and was in the middle of moving the chain off to one side of the parking entrance I was approaching him. I, again smiled, and gave my morning salutations. His response? No smile, but a nod in my direction. His was a minimal response.
> 
> I was slowly being overtaken by a father and his son, @ 7 years old or so. The boy was being taken to school a few blocks away. I had my dog heel next to me on some grass, a bit off of the sidewalk. This was to allow them more room to pass. Some people are nervous around ANY type of dog. As he approached, I also greeted with a similar enthusiasm and get a reciprocal response. His smile was infectious as well as his son’s. They briefly stopped and asked if my dog can be petted. I agreed and a few seconds later, they were off again with smiles and good-byes. I also had a mother and son walking close behind this father and son, greet and smile as well, to my offerings of good morning.
> 
> Were mones at work here? Not at all, as I wasn’t wearing any. The only output was the ones I naturally produce. However, what was going through the first women’s mind? Did she have an argument with her boyfriend that morning before going out for her morning walk? Did she have a disturbingly frustrated call from her mother accusing her of being distant with her? Had she been bothered by guys during her morning walk and I reminded her of those situations? I don’t know! She was not in the mood for conversation, even a basic human one, such as a greeting.  
> Was the man not responding to my natural mones? Did he have something against dogs? Is he racially biased? Was he late for work? I don’t know! His mood was leaning toward a focus on his ‘things’ and cut the small talk.  
> The man and the woman with the kids were more inclined to be friendly. Could it have been reversed, the man and woman with the kids respond coldly or not at all and the first two respond warmly? Sure! But, it happened this way, the friendly dog could have put them in a good mood. My warm smile could have been contagious. My natural mones could have a nol like aspect to them. My exercise wardrobe could have put them at ease as to my intentions.
> 
> In all of these cases, the synthetic mone aspect was not part of the equation. Their mental disposition was at work in their responses. This, tempered with the chilly external environment, would have either handicapped or aided a particular mone application.
> 
> **Other thoughts….**
> 
> I had another experience with IShine and A314. While I was wearing these, I met a girl friend that I hadn’t seen in several months. Her greetings were warm enough, but, I noticed her hugs on greeting and departure were distant, as if she was holding back. It was more of a slight hug from the shoulders, sideways hug. She will normally be more of a frontal hugger. In talking with her, she’s been having guy difficulties as well as family problems, primarily with her father. Her response to my A314 and IShine? Could it be that she was subconsciously taking out her problems on me? Seeing me primarily as a daddy/male figure?
> 
> A week later, we met again, I was mostly wearing IShine as I had only a couple of drops of A314 from 7 hours earlier. My IShine was refreshed from that early morning application, an hour or so before meeting her again. This time, her hugs lasted longer with a prolonged boobing upon greeting. Her smile and body language was inclined toward me. The departure was a basically a hug and a boob rub up and down before releasing. Surprising for sure, as I wasn’t expecting it, from my previous interactions with her. She was all smiles and honestly wanting to spend some time with my wife and I later in the week. Her mental disposition had handicapped my mones and later aided my mone application. That’s the way I see it.
> 
> Please feel free to comment on these points or not. I’ve taken this textual stroll to annotate some of my thoughts on mones. I like to share this reflection with others, as well as to my future self! 🙂

wow, this in an excelent post, good sir!

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**Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 7:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/254 "2011-11-30T07:31:46Z")

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> [@1Alpha](#):
>
> I have this nagging feeling that this has been touched on in my stroll through this labyrinth of a forum. I’ve been reading up on the forum and thought about how mones fit in the social equation. Some have proposed that certain none heavy products are prone to cause fisticuffs… others, that an other than desired response will be directed at the mone wearer. Or that the user will be getting women clawing all over him like a 21st century Casanova. Also, that being Ghosted, completely ignored, is a likely outcome to an exaggerated application of none.
> 
> At my current level of mone experience, I can see that _ **all** _ of the above are possible. Some are more likely to occur than others. This does not make it more so because of my own personal experience. Maybe when I’ve applied a certain product, I’ve seen brawls breaking out more commonly than being ghosted, as an example. There are several variables that would need to be considered to see what is _ **LIKELY** _ to occur. I’ll try to direct my ramble on this.
> 
> **What Attitudes are projected?**
> 
> I realized the attitude and ‘presence’ of the wearer will bear a strong influence in which direction the mone reaction will take. As to ‘presence’, that is, are they imposing or impressive in their character? Or is the user lacking in character and positive qualities? Is he/she a ninnyhammer? This will have a direct impact on the influence of mones. I think this has a reciprocal relation to the environment that the user finds himself in. Is he using mones in a clubbing environment, partying, work, school, gym, church gatherings? Some environments, such as the first two indicated require a disihibited tendency, more of an animalistic attitude to get a ‘response’ (Ex. Having sex). A shy wallflower will not have the same reactions. This brings me to the next point.
> 
> **How does the mone affect to me and those around me?**
> 
> Does the wearer have a general goal when wearing the mone or is he with a ‘set it and forget it’ mindset? This is either a good thing or bad… as congruence is not easily achieved without direction, a tendency or inclination of the user. Others have a ‘natural’ congruence to the mones they are using. This congruence factor has also been exhaustively examined in these forums. It’s a factor that is one of the most important variable to effectively using mones. You MUST be in a state of agreement with the mone signal you’re wearing. If contradictory signals are projected from your mones and yourself, either the mones effectiveness will be seriously diminished or completely ignored. I also include this as it can have a negating effect, when the subconscious of those around you cannot correlate the mones to the actions and attitudes of the user. You must be comfortable with yourself, at the very least, to let the mones signal do their thing!!! Otherwise, the mone signal is ignored.
> 
> What reactions does the wearer have to the mones, normally? Are they aware of how mones will affect their emotional balance? I was wearing a particular P in my testing and found that it completely exhausted my patience level. It brought out the inner bitch in me! I was short tempered at work, with friends, everyone close to me. I was ticked at any little thing that was said, in the wrong way… I was seriously pissed! I found that others in my mone cloud would also likely develop similar tendencies with sufficient exposure time. The P’s effects would diminish over time; it was about 3 to 4 hours when the effects would fade away completely. I DID NOT know what this P would do to me or those around me. Could I use it effectively in a social setting? Obviously not, until I eventually saw the trending of this P. Others have reported differing responses to mine on this P. If I would have used their experiences with this P as a foundation in a combo of mones for use at work, for example, I would have failed dramatically!
> 
> **In what mental state are the people that I’m trying to influence?**
> 
> Realizing that others have their own ‘things’ going on will help in understanding that mones will NOT affect everyone the same way. Just knowing that will temper expectations.
> 
> I was walking my dog, a beautiful retriever, and often get compliments on her expression, coat and temperament. While we were walking down the street, a women in her mid 30’s was doing her morning walk, walking up the street. I smiled at her and gave her a warm greeting. What was her response? She straightened her back, lifted her chin slightly, and continued walking. She wasn’t wearing headphones, listening to music. If that were the case, I would have just smiled, tried to make eye contact and just nod. But, she did NOT have a positive reaction to my greeting. I was considering that the smile, the warm tone of voice, some mone or even my dog’s presence would elicit at least a basic response, a salutation. Nope!
> 
> As I continued on, I also saw walked by a man who was opening up the parking area of an office where I supposed he works. As he had already unlocked and was in the middle of moving the chain off to one side of the parking entrance I was approaching him. I, again smiled, and gave my morning salutations. His response? No smile, but a nod in my direction. His was a minimal response.
> 
> I was slowly being overtaken by a father and his son, @ 7 years old or so. The boy was being taken to school a few blocks away. I had my dog heel next to me on some grass, a bit off of the sidewalk. This was to allow them more room to pass. Some people are nervous around ANY type of dog. As he approached, I also greeted with a similar enthusiasm and get a reciprocal response. His smile was infectious as well as his son’s. They briefly stopped and asked if my dog can be petted. I agreed and a few seconds later, they were off again with smiles and good-byes. I also had a mother and son walking close behind this father and son, greet and smile as well, to my offerings of good morning.
> 
> Were mones at work here? Not at all, as I wasn’t wearing any. The only output was the ones I naturally produce. However, what was going through the first women’s mind? Did she have an argument with her boyfriend that morning before going out for her morning walk? Did she have a disturbingly frustrated call from her mother accusing her of being distant with her? Had she been bothered by guys during her morning walk and I reminded her of those situations? I don’t know! She was not in the mood for conversation, even a basic human one, such as a greeting.  
> Was the man not responding to my natural mones? Did he have something against dogs? Is he racially biased? Was he late for work? I don’t know! His mood was leaning toward a focus on his ‘things’ and cut the small talk.  
> The man and the woman with the kids were more inclined to be friendly. Could it have been reversed, the man and woman with the kids respond coldly or not at all and the first two respond warmly? Sure! But, it happened this way, the friendly dog could have put them in a good mood. My warm smile could have been contagious. My natural mones could have a nol like aspect to them. My exercise wardrobe could have put them at ease as to my intentions.
> 
> In all of these cases, the synthetic mone aspect was not part of the equation. Their mental disposition was at work in their responses. This, tempered with the chilly external environment, would have either handicapped or aided a particular mone application.
> 
> **Other thoughts….**
> 
> I had another experience with IShine and A314. While I was wearing these, I met a girl friend that I hadn’t seen in several months. Her greetings were warm enough, but, I noticed her hugs on greeting and departure were distant, as if she was holding back. It was more of a slight hug from the shoulders, sideways hug. She will normally be more of a frontal hugger. In talking with her, she’s been having guy difficulties as well as family problems, primarily with her father. Her response to my A314 and IShine? Could it be that she was subconsciously taking out her problems on me? Seeing me primarily as a daddy/male figure?
> 
> A week later, we met again, I was mostly wearing IShine as I had only a couple of drops of A314 from 7 hours earlier. My IShine was refreshed from that early morning application, an hour or so before meeting her again. This time, her hugs lasted longer with a prolonged boobing upon greeting. Her smile and body language was inclined toward me. The departure was a basically a hug and a boob rub up and down before releasing. Surprising for sure, as I wasn’t expecting it, from my previous interactions with her. She was all smiles and honestly wanting to spend some time with my wife and I later in the week. Her mental disposition had handicapped my mones and later aided my mone application. That’s the way I see it.
> 
> Please feel free to comment on these points or not. I’ve taken this textual stroll to annotate some of my thoughts on mones. I like to share this reflection with others, as well as to my future self! 🙂

This post is so important, I’m glad you shared Alpha!  
Things I’ve never considered before, especially the part where you stated "Could it be that she was subconsciously taking out her problems on me? Seeing me primarily as a daddy/male figure? " this is something I’ve NEVER thought of,it’s SO crucial to understanding -mones, thanks again!🙂

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**Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 9:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/255 "2011-12-02T21:51:36Z")

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> [@1Alpha](#):
>
> I have this nagging feeling that this has been touched on in my stroll through this labyrinth of a forum. I’ve been reading up on the forum and thought about how mones fit in the social equation. Some have proposed that certain none heavy products are prone to cause fisticuffs… others, that an other than desired response will be directed at the mone wearer. Or that the user will be getting women clawing all over him like a 21st century Casanova. Also, that being Ghosted, completely ignored, is a likely outcome to an exaggerated application of none.
> 
> At my current level of mone experience, I can see that _ **all** _ of the above are possible. Some are more likely to occur than others. This does not make it more so because of my own personal experience. Maybe when I’ve applied a certain product, I’ve seen brawls breaking out more commonly than being ghosted, as an example. There are several variables that would need to be considered to see what is _ **LIKELY** _ to occur. I’ll try to direct my ramble on this.
> 
> **What Attitudes are projected?**
> 
> I realized the attitude and ‘presence’ of the wearer will bear a strong influence in which direction the mone reaction will take. As to ‘presence’, that is, are they imposing or impressive in their character? Or is the user lacking in character and positive qualities? Is he/she a ninnyhammer? This will have a direct impact on the influence of mones. I think this has a reciprocal relation to the environment that the user finds himself in. Is he using mones in a clubbing environment, partying, work, school, gym, church gatherings? Some environments, such as the first two indicated require a disihibited tendency, more of an animalistic attitude to get a ‘response’ (Ex. Having sex). A shy wallflower will not have the same reactions. This brings me to the next point.
> 
> **How does the mone affect to me and those around me?**
> 
> Does the wearer have a general goal when wearing the mone or is he with a ‘set it and forget it’ mindset? This is either a good thing or bad… as congruence is not easily achieved without direction, a tendency or inclination of the user. Others have a ‘natural’ congruence to the mones they are using. This congruence factor has also been exhaustively examined in these forums. It’s a factor that is one of the most important variable to effectively using mones. You MUST be in a state of agreement with the mone signal you’re wearing. If contradictory signals are projected from your mones and yourself, either the mones effectiveness will be seriously diminished or completely ignored. I also include this as it can have a negating effect, when the subconscious of those around you cannot correlate the mones to the actions and attitudes of the user. You must be comfortable with yourself, at the very least, to let the mones signal do their thing!!! Otherwise, the mone signal is ignored.
> 
> What reactions does the wearer have to the mones, normally? Are they aware of how mones will affect their emotional balance? I was wearing a particular P in my testing and found that it completely exhausted my patience level. It brought out the inner bitch in me! I was short tempered at work, with friends, everyone close to me. I was ticked at any little thing that was said, in the wrong way… I was seriously pissed! I found that others in my mone cloud would also likely develop similar tendencies with sufficient exposure time. The P’s effects would diminish over time; it was about 3 to 4 hours when the effects would fade away completely. I DID NOT know what this P would do to me or those around me. Could I use it effectively in a social setting? Obviously not, until I eventually saw the trending of this P. Others have reported differing responses to mine on this P. If I would have used their experiences with this P as a foundation in a combo of mones for use at work, for example, I would have failed dramatically!
> 
> **In what mental state are the people that I’m trying to influence?**
> 
> Realizing that others have their own ‘things’ going on will help in understanding that mones will NOT affect everyone the same way. Just knowing that will temper expectations.
> 
> I was walking my dog, a beautiful retriever, and often get compliments on her expression, coat and temperament. While we were walking down the street, a women in her mid 30’s was doing her morning walk, walking up the street. I smiled at her and gave her a warm greeting. What was her response? She straightened her back, lifted her chin slightly, and continued walking. She wasn’t wearing headphones, listening to music. If that were the case, I would have just smiled, tried to make eye contact and just nod. But, she did NOT have a positive reaction to my greeting. I was considering that the smile, the warm tone of voice, some mone or even my dog’s presence would elicit at least a basic response, a salutation. Nope!
> 
> As I continued on, I also saw walked by a man who was opening up the parking area of an office where I supposed he works. As he had already unlocked and was in the middle of moving the chain off to one side of the parking entrance I was approaching him. I, again smiled, and gave my morning salutations. His response? No smile, but a nod in my direction. His was a minimal response.
> 
> I was slowly being overtaken by a father and his son, @ 7 years old or so. The boy was being taken to school a few blocks away. I had my dog heel next to me on some grass, a bit off of the sidewalk. This was to allow them more room to pass. Some people are nervous around ANY type of dog. As he approached, I also greeted with a similar enthusiasm and get a reciprocal response. His smile was infectious as well as his son’s. They briefly stopped and asked if my dog can be petted. I agreed and a few seconds later, they were off again with smiles and good-byes. I also had a mother and son walking close behind this father and son, greet and smile as well, to my offerings of good morning.
> 
> Were mones at work here? Not at all, as I wasn’t wearing any. The only output was the ones I naturally produce. However, what was going through the first women’s mind? Did she have an argument with her boyfriend that morning before going out for her morning walk? Did she have a disturbingly frustrated call from her mother accusing her of being distant with her? Had she been bothered by guys during her morning walk and I reminded her of those situations? I don’t know! She was not in the mood for conversation, even a basic human one, such as a greeting.  
> Was the man not responding to my natural mones? Did he have something against dogs? Is he racially biased? Was he late for work? I don’t know! His mood was leaning toward a focus on his ‘things’ and cut the small talk.  
> The man and the woman with the kids were more inclined to be friendly. Could it have been reversed, the man and woman with the kids respond coldly or not at all and the first two respond warmly? Sure! But, it happened this way, the friendly dog could have put them in a good mood. My warm smile could have been contagious. My natural mones could have a nol like aspect to them. My exercise wardrobe could have put them at ease as to my intentions.
> 
> In all of these cases, the synthetic mone aspect was not part of the equation. Their mental disposition was at work in their responses. This, tempered with the chilly external environment, would have either handicapped or aided a particular mone application.
> 
> **Other thoughts….**
> 
> I had another experience with IShine and A314. While I was wearing these, I met a girl friend that I hadn’t seen in several months. Her greetings were warm enough, but, I noticed her hugs on greeting and departure were distant, as if she was holding back. It was more of a slight hug from the shoulders, sideways hug. She will normally be more of a frontal hugger. In talking with her, she’s been having guy difficulties as well as family problems, primarily with her father. Her response to my A314 and IShine? Could it be that she was subconsciously taking out her problems on me? Seeing me primarily as a daddy/male figure?
> 
> A week later, we met again, I was mostly wearing IShine as I had only a couple of drops of A314 from 7 hours earlier. My IShine was refreshed from that early morning application, an hour or so before meeting her again. This time, her hugs lasted longer with a prolonged boobing upon greeting. Her smile and body language was inclined toward me. The departure was a basically a hug and a boob rub up and down before releasing. Surprising for sure, as I wasn’t expecting it, from my previous interactions with her. She was all smiles and honestly wanting to spend some time with my wife and I later in the week. Her mental disposition had handicapped my mones and later aided my mone application. That’s the way I see it.
> 
> Please feel free to comment on these points or not. I’ve taken this textual stroll to annotate some of my thoughts on mones. I like to share this reflection with others, as well as to my future self! 🙂

It really is a world class post and as such has been copied and made sticky in the Men’s area. Congratulations Alpha 😃

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**Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 11:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/256 "2011-12-02T23:12:08Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
>
> _ **It really is a world class post and as such has been copied and made sticky in the Men’s area. Congratulations Alpha** _😃

Sticky indeed! 🙂 That was fabulous, 1A! 😉

I’m glad you’re feeling better and hope everything is OK for you out there. We’ve had our share of Mother Nature’s wrath lately on the east coast, too. Power out, lots of flooding/roads out and downed trees everywhere. Oy.

Bella

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 4:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/257 "2011-12-08T16:09:23Z")

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Thanks Bella for the post of support! I’ve gotten some things back in working fashion, power for one, then, lost water for a few hours, then, everything was fine for a while, then, Boom… power out for another day… Interesting times…

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Well, I’m just stoppin’ in and updating a bit and I’ll be back with a full(er) report! 😃

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 4:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/258 "2011-12-08T16:14:11Z")

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A few more pics of some areas around my neck of the woods!

Necessity required that I drive around a bit so, here is some pics of what I saw… ☹ Plenty more these fallen giants as well as power poles…

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2011, 7:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/259 "2011-12-12T19:50:10Z")

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_ **MX 432:** _  
Following the ‘what to report’ suggestions from JS… with some story tellin’ in between…

**NOTE: Application was to tops of hands/wrist, one spray to each. 4 tests at this application points were done with those noted below being typical of the responses of this MX.**

• Strength - **How strong did you feel the effects? On yourself?**  
I see the effects were immediate, that is within 20 seconds of application, I was getting the edges of my mouth pulled upward. It was a feeling of contentment, slight amusement at it’s effect, a kind of snugness about it. The strength of these effects was more than subtle, though not a slap to the face. More of a gentle shove… you will notice it, and turn and say, hmmm, what WAS that?  
**On others?**  
Within a minute of application, I could still notice the scent of freshness, purity, and slightly soapiness. I was approached by a ‘greeter’ in a supermarket. I was entering at the same time as 2 other shoppers, a woman was about 5 feet ahead of me, to my left and an older gentleman, mid 50’s(?), a few feet to my right and also ahead of me. The greeter focused on me and went through his shpeal on the specials of the day. He went on to include the benefits of a club membership with the store as I stood by listening fairly intently. I thanked him as he insisted I take the application and apply on checkout. I took it and continued into the store.

**(5 minutes from application time)**

While I was walking about, an Asian late 40’s woman was pushing her cart about 4 feet away. I was going toward my cart that was ahead of her so I walked by her. As I was overtaking her and she was to my left, 3 feet away, she turned toward me, then looked away. Immediately, snapped her head back at me and smiled which I smiled back and greeted her. It was the type of shock, like there was a big ‘ol zip on my nose was amazed to see it, that then broke down immediately to a friendliness like we knew each other for a while, like friends that haven’t seen each other is a couple of months. We spoke a bit as I grabbed my cart and then told her to bundle up as it was an unnaturally chilly afternoon.

**(Between 5 to 10 minutes application time)**

Other gal, at the fruit section, was cool when I was around as she appeared to be trying to concentrate on the produce in front of her. She was Caucasian, early 30’s. I walked passed her to get to the pears. No noticeable reactions.

**(@ 15 minutes from application time)**

A set of young girls, teenagers that were likely around 15, walked by me on another aisle as they were chatting. They walked behind me as I was looking for my spice items. As they slowed, one of the girls, quieted down and seemed to shut up to turn around and look in my direction. I looked toward them as they were about 8 to 10 feet away looking for some bags of chips. One of them was looking intently in my direction and I met her gaze and smiled at her. She nervously smiled, blushed a bit, and looked back at the shelves of chips, trying to hide herself in them. She giggled something to the other girl and the other one looked at me and giggled softly to the first one. They grabbed some bags of chips and walked off.

**(@20 minutes from application)**

I almost bumped into a woman that made a hard right turn in front of some shelves of bread. She apologized and I smiled and said something like, oh that’s alright, you can bump into me anytime… I needed someone to wake me up! She smirked slightly and continued on to the dairy section, I think.

**Did it hit you over the head, or was it more subtle?**

It was more than subtle, though not a slap to the face. More of a gentle shove… you will notice it, and turn and say, hmmm, what WAS that?

• **Length of Effects - When did you notice onset of effects?**  
Within 10 seconds.  
**When did you notice the outset?**  
In 4 tests, found that it would last 3 hours.

**When did it peak?**

At the ½ mark, it would seem to peak for me.  
**When did it wane?**

Hour 2 would begin to wane with about hour 3 being the cut off time.

• Tenacity - Tenacity refers to “staying power”, or the aggressiveness of the cologne.  
Light in ‘staying power’, noticeable within 10 to 15 minutes of application, then, only noticeable occasionally as a sanitary, soapy scent. That 10 minute window of application, then, it wasn’t perceptible. I’d take a whiff on my wrists to see if I can still smell it. That would only be about 3 inches from my app point, and yes, I’d smell that soapy, almost antibacterial scent.

• **Effectiveness - How effective is this mix? Have its effects been consistent?**  
The strength and tenacity points mentioned above have been consistent with 4 tries @ 2 sprays to the wrists.

• Diffusion/Sillage - Sillage refers to your “vapor trail”. **Think of it like the wake of a ship. How many feet/meters is your vapor trail?**

It would be about 2 to 3 meters with substantial drop effectiveness to complete ineffectiveness getting to 4 meters or more. The length of the vapor trail would be within 9 feet.

**Do people seem to follow your sillage?**  
Only time that I noticed that this happened with a woman and her young son, walking through a store. I was looking at different breads on the shelves and as I moved off looking, they would follow, go around me, then follow me briefly as she was also looking at the shelves… Noticed because, she seemed distracted while looking and would seem to be observing my selections.

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2011, 8:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/260 "2011-12-14T20:10:00Z")

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Still liking my A314 oil… 🙂

But, I have been using my A314/a spray… at one spray to the top of one hand and rubbed to the other. Some strong feelings of getting work done, a no nonsense feeling, centered and ready for ACTION…

I can tell that it’s been continuing to affect me after hour 4, though, it is waning in strength by this time. However, don’t have any of these feelings from hour 5 on. I can see a top off, reapplication at @ 4 to 5 hours.

I’ll keep testing A314/a with some P’s and see what I can get… I do like TAF and P114 as some possible combinations with it…

😃

Even with 1 spray, I can still get the jolt in self effects as well as the respect me NOW hit within a minute TF and 7 feet distance…

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2011, 11:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/261 "2011-12-16T23:43:01Z")

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Following P51’s stead…

Here is my email 🙂

\<1alphamatter.@.gmail.com\>

Cheers all! 🙂

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