# Starting out with 'mones: Takin' it nice and slow... NOT!

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**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [October 5, 2010, 6:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340 "2010-10-05T06:57:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 12:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/262 "2011-12-20T00:31:49Z")

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I’m in a bit of a hiatus on posting up testing of mones as I have some other ‘goodies’ that I’m testing out, that is, nootropics. As these will also affect mood, I’ll have to give them some air time to see how they affect me.

Otherwise, my mone testing will be skewed… more so than usual… 😛

I’m still using mones, for sure, though!!

Can’t keep my grubby hands off of my tried and true…

A314, IShine, P114 and P123… among a few others… 😃

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 3:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/263 "2011-12-21T03:32:10Z")

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Because of this… batch booboo…

For the MX 432… the actual Batch that I have:

**ZI290068**

I had posted up my observations on MX 432… here:

[MX432 reports: a sample that came with TUTH, and whether effects beat placebo - #15 by 1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx432-reporting-discussion-thread/52821/15)

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2011, 12:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/264 "2011-12-24T00:02:31Z")

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Because of the below, I posted some thoughts, reactions, and dosages using nootropics on my ‘brain’ thread…

[Mones that will clear up brain fog!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-that-will-clear-up-brain-fog/42569)

TAF is some excellent stuff, though, the focus and clarity will last less than 1 hour in me, with hour 2 feeling it, but on a sharp decline.

So there you have it… you know of my new nootropic addiction… 🙂

> [@1Alpha](#):
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> I’m in a bit of a hiatus on posting up testing of mones as I have some other ‘goodies’ that I’m testing out, that is, nootropics. As these will also affect mood, I’ll have to give them some air time to see how they affect me.
> 
> Otherwise, my mone testing will be skewed… more so than usual… 😛
> 
> I’m still using mones, for sure, though!!
> 
> Can’t keep my grubby hands off of my tried and true…
> 
> A314, IShine, P114 and P123… among a few others… 😃

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2011, 6:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/265 "2011-12-25T18:00:50Z")

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Nootropics can be some really great stuff. However there are some products that will not play nicely with other more common nutrients. Make sure you read up about potential interactions.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2011, 6:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/266 "2011-12-25T18:01:13Z")

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Oh and Merry Christmas my friend 🙂

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 12:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/267 "2011-12-28T00:30:38Z")

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Thanks Steve… I’m taking care of what I’m ingesting with these powders and pills…

🙂

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**Author:** ![The\_Hammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@The\_Hammer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Hammer)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 6:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/268 "2011-12-28T06:15:54Z")

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I’m interested in this as well. I’ve had weird problems with fish oil and resveratrol. Perhaps the fish oil was just bad, but the resveratrol gives me headaches. With either one my visual perception was heightened to the point that it was like I could view multiple depths at the same time. It was as if I were viewing life through 3D glasses that were all inclusive and it made me sick, actually.

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 7:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/269 "2011-12-29T07:18:55Z")

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@ Hammer- Do you have experience with nootropics? I’ve done resveratrol and it doesn’t do much for me…

For tonight, I’ve got on my 4 drops of A314 from @ 5 hours ago with 2 shots of 2x IShine.

I’ve just added 20 mu of TAC and 2.5 of TAK to the back of the neck. The TAC was to both sides of my neck. We shall see if there is any touchy feelly tonight with this combo… 😉

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 5:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/270 "2011-12-29T17:08:49Z")

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> [@1Alpha](#):
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> @ Hammer- Do you have experience with nootropics? I’ve done resveratrol and it doesn’t do much for me…
> 
> For tonight, I’ve got on my 4 drops of A314 from @ 5 hours ago with 2 shots of 2x IShine.
> 
> I’ve just added 20 mu of TAC and 2.5 of TAK to the back of the neck. The TAC was to both sides of my neck. We shall see if there is any touchy feelly tonight with this combo… 😉

Then, it was interesting… I was talking briefly about my day when A came up to me and started sniffing my chest and neck. She said, what is that scent?! I asked ‘What do you mean?’  
“You smell good and yummy… why?!” that got me laughing, because she was so intent at getting to the bottom of that scent. I had the TAC(Neroli) and the TAK(Grapefruit) and though I’ve used this combination before, today, it had her sniffing me up!!!

This got me so smilie, I thought this was an indication of… well, you know… 😛 As a guy, I forgot about our convo’s and started engines up…

I miscalculated as she had blurted this out and was open about the scent as she may do on occasion, bring up suddenly what’s on her mind, but it was right before she was going to tell me about her visit to her family, with her mother being there as well. Apparently, she had a tough time with some issues and arguments that came about. She WAS NOT in the mood. She wanted to unload her thoughts and basically cuddle…

I went in hot and got shot down… the emotional aspect, the closeness that she wanted to have with me, was where I should have started. Really, a relationship is about both of us… and each of us tending to the other one. Not selfishly… selflessly…  
I missed this one as I didn’t… think in detail about her day…

Well, things will only get better… as we continue to fortify our relationship with listening and sharing our inner selves with each other!

We did sleep VERY well, though! 🙂

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**Author:** ![The\_Hammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@The\_Hammer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Hammer)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 11:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/271 "2011-12-29T23:07:50Z")

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I don’t have any experience past the fish oil and resveratrol. I think the fish oil is good in moderation so long as you get a good brand. I wouldn’t go over 3 grams of oil a day and I would be careful to spread it out and work up to it. I don’t remember what the breakdown of the oil should be.

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**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 11:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/272 "2011-12-29T23:33:34Z")

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> [@The\_Hammer](#):
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> _ **I don’t have any experience past the fish oil and resveratrol. I think the fish oil is good in moderation so long as you get a good brand. I wouldn’t go over 3 grams of oil a day and I would be careful to spread it out and work up to it. I don’t remember what the breakdown of the oil should be.** _

Possibly more than you want to know. 😃 😉

[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12442909](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12442909)

[http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/othernuts/omega3fa/](http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/othernuts/omega3fa/)

[http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/QAA400149/balancing-omega-3-and-omega-6.html](http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/QAA400149/balancing-omega-3-and-omega-6.html)

Bella

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2011, 6:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/273 "2011-12-30T06:16:34Z")

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You GO girl!!! 😃

I’ve loved nuts such as yourself and pecans and walnuts not only for their Omega 3 properties… 😛

Wish ya well Bella! 🙂

> [@Bella](#):
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> Possibly more than you want to know. 😃 😉
> 
> [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12442909](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12442909)
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> [http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/othernuts/omega3fa/](http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/othernuts/omega3fa/)
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> [http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/QAA400149/balancing-omega-3-and-omega-6.html](http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/QAA400149/balancing-omega-3-and-omega-6.html)
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> Bella

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2011, 6:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/274 "2011-12-30T18:11:59Z")

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Update on my new order…

I got my self… dun Dun DUN…

**P96 Togo - 25 mcg  
P93 30 ml - 5 mcg  
P75 30 ml - 5mcg**

AND Of course, my TRUSTED, CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT, ALWAYS BY MY SIDE, **A314 oil!**!!

The P’s, All in [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/)… We shall see what these putatives shall DO!!! Excited I am, to try them out. 😃

I got 15 mcg of P93 on now… lightening of spirits? We shall see…

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 7:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/275 "2012-01-05T07:52:26Z")

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Well, I also got my A1 today… **woohoo**! I’ve got on a drop spread between the tops of my hands… cool, at ease, nothing can bother me feeling. I’ll be continuing to test this for a few days!

Wish me luck!!! 😃

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**Author:** ![Zentasy72](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zentasy72/32/1955_2.png) [@Zentasy72](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zentasy72)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 11:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/276 "2012-01-05T11:23:24Z")

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I’ve been reading your journal and I love it. Good luck with your testing and hope to soon hear how it went!

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 3:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/277 "2012-01-05T15:42:36Z")

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I appreciate your post! Your encouragement is good for me. You know, like when a marathon runner has people cheering him on… that’s exactly how I take it. 🙂

ESPECIALLY, if those cheering him on are ALSO RUNNERS!! 😃

I can tell you have endurance, as that’s what it takes to slog through my ENTIRE journal! 😛  
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> [@Zentasy72](#):
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> I’ve been reading your journal and I love it. Good luck with your testing and hope to soon hear how it went!

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 1:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/278 "2012-01-12T01:40:32Z")

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A1 Application - Not for the faint of heart. Buffering Recommended!!!

Well, well, well… I’m getting to know the Power and allure of A1 as well as the danger…

I’ve been using one drop of A1 for a couple of days and continued to find a silky smoothness to it. A mellowing of my mood. Felt good… like after a late night cap. I can really see how it makes the women folk feel comfortable around me. My **A** basically wanted me last night with this on along with my A314. I’ve been combo’ing it with A314 with very good effects. She was all over me with her sexy shirt and seductive walk about the house. I was trying to see how long I’d last resisting her. I did last a bit, but, she insisted. 🙂 Then, I excused myself and applied 20 mu of TAC and it was a VERY happy evening for both of us! 😃  
I’m still using A1 x 1 drop in my combo’s occasionally.

Now, I focus on the 1 + drops of A1. I used it at 1 + for a couple of more days with one afternoon session @ 3 drops. In my case, NOT a recommended dosage, at least, not intentionally.

**A1 APPLICATION - To tops of hands and tops of wrist**

However, I did find that when I started testing with 2 drops of A1, this mellowing out started to give birth to a introverted feeling, I was much more thoughtful. This in turn, with continued exposure, @ 4 hours, blossomed into a emotional sensibility that only pushed me into a wall of introspection… I had to abort at 2 drops as I could tell this was the initial stages of a closing down of my social interactions, a beginning of a depressive state. I found that 3 drops will, within @ 1 hour of application, would overwhelm my sensibilities, bringing me directly to a socially closed off mood. I let it go for another hour to see if I’d be able to shake it off. With continued exposure, I was going straight to that enclosed room, one of my ‘funky’ moods where I DON’T want to interact with anyone. I was at the threshold when, @ 3 hours with my 3 drops of A1, I dragged myself to the shower with focus on scrubbing the tops of my hands and wrists where my A1 resided. Once that was completed, I had to apply some IShine and A314 and I was ok… that is, I had that nagging pull to an E’hor type vibe, negative self talk and negative responses to others. I was able to pull out of it by the next couple of hours.

I’ll check on diluting with the K-Train thread… I’ll have to try it. I do like 1 DROP only of A1 though. Smooth 1Alpha, coming through! 🙂

> [@1Alpha](#):
>
> Well, I also got my A1 today… **woohoo**! I’ve got on a drop spread between the tops of my hands… cool, at ease, nothing can bother me feeling. I’ll be continuing to test this for a few days!
> 
> Wish me luck!!! 😃

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**Author:** ![laciera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/da6949/32.png) [@laciera](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/laciera)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 12:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/279 "2012-01-13T00:19:09Z")

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So alpha, I have been following your threads & stories for quite a while.  
and I gotta say, thumbs up!

I always end up learning alot from you.

Let me know what your thoughts are on this:

Instant shine (2sprays) + Ammo (2s), Regular strength

Im meeting someone outdoors. standing outside, night time.  
closeness: handshake length,

How good will my mones work?

more of a range question.. what do you think? and what are your thoughts on this?

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 6:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/280 "2012-01-13T06:17:53Z")

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Thanks for the complement! I do what I can to contribute… 🙂

As to your question, I’d start with the basic premise of diffusion of a basic scent package.  
If your wearing Armani Code, for example, what kind of sillage and diffusion will you have in that same situation. Will someone at arm’s length, @ 1 meter, be able to distinguish that you have on a cologne? Will they be able to tell that it is Armani Code? Will you be upwind? Some people are much more sensitive with scents than others. Women are notorious with scent detection.

Once you have a good grasp of this concept, you can see how you’ll have a similar situation with whatever mones you do end up using. Whenever your talking about an external environment, you’ll have less of the mones in your cloud. I’d suggest some movement, that is, if you apply on the tops of your hands and wrists, making hand gestures will allow for more of the mones to be presented to the olfactory senses of your target.  
You could also walk in front of or cross the path in front of the person so that they will be in your air/mone wake and take in some of the mones from you.  
A good hand shake, instead of a weak hi, can get the mones in your targets senses. That is, you can use a hand clasp, with both of yours, or as you shake with your right hand, use your left to gently clasp your targets elbow, in a friendly, haven’t seen you in a while, I missed you, kind of way. The mones are more likely presented to your targets senses, if you’ve applied to the tops of your hands or wrists.

Here are some links to handshakes and body language:  
[Types Of Handshakes « Sapientology.com](http://sapientology.com/tag/types-of-handshakes/)

[Types of handshakes - Syncrat Publishing](http://www.syncrat.com/7jj)

[The Beginners Guide To Body Language « Sapientology.com](http://sapientology.com/body-language/how-to-read-body-language/)

Hey, I hope that helps out and wish you well!

With 2 sprays of AMMO, you will very likely not ‘miss’ your target! 🙂

> [@laciera](#):
>
> So alpha, I have been following your threads & stories for quite a while.  
> and I gotta say, thumbs up!
> 
> I always end up learning alot from you.
> 
> Let me know what your thoughts are on this:
> 
> Instant shine (2sprays) + Ammo (2s), Regular strength
> 
> Im meeting someone outdoors. standing outside, night time.  
> closeness: handshake length,
> 
> How good will my mones work?
> 
> more of a range question.. what do you think? and what are your thoughts on this?

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**Author:** ![laciera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/da6949/32.png) [@laciera](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/laciera)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 5:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/281 "2012-01-13T17:40:33Z")

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Ya i always learn alot,  
your very helpful here.

& I know i always have some unsureness to pheromone clouds.

Sometimes it all depends, some girls have detected it up from 5ft away  
others more like 1 or 2.  
but talking about ranges i would say, 5 ft is a good estimate usually

usually i notice when people are waking towards me, and as soon as i get 3-5 ft close, alot of smiles and hello’s haha!

what are your experiences with people wakling towards you?  
how close do you start getting signals or hits?

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