# Starting out with 'mones: Takin' it nice and slow... NOT! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [October 5, 2010, 6:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340 "2010-10-05T06:57:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/41 "2010-10-18T19:51:18Z")
Basically, found that 6x IS is somewhat better in responses from others, in a meeting that I had for 40 minutes at a clients office. For self effects, IS 4x is great effects on others, good. For self effects only IS 2x is good enough. Low effects on others. I’ll be reporting on my double trouble combos: 2x A314 (drops) 2x IS_2 strength 2x IH_2 strength 2x IO\*2 ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 5:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/42 "2010-10-19T05:51:58Z")
**Double Trouble Combos:** 2x A314 (drops) 2x IS_2 strength 2x IH_2 strength 2x IO\*2 **App Points** : Both sides of neck, back of head, back of neck, throat and wrist area **Venue:** Drive to Work/Office /Clients office Temp: Low to mid 60 degrees F. drizzle - Humidity @ 90% **Application Time:** 8:30 am **Self-Effects:** Feeling rested upon awakening. After shower and morning rituals, just fine, and mellow. Not hungry this morning, just had cup o’ joe. After application, about 3 to 5 minutes, still getting things ready to leave (laptop, my bag, etc) started feeling more serious. Sort of a feeling of hurry up, dammit, you should have been done last night with this!!! I was feeling whupped by my inner voice! Sort of a short fuse attitude. While driving, I calmed that attitude down somewhat, but had a feeling of being at the helm and having to make sure things got done! Different than just the IS! In the enclosed environment of the car, about 20 minutes after application, a serious and calm feeling dominated. **Effects on Others:** Supervisor came up to my desk and was going over some clients that we are working on this week. I could sense that I was somewhat irritated with him for going over things that I had talked about on Friday at length and seems that he wasn’t paying attention. My tone was somewhat stern with him, I was trying to hold it back but didn’t do a good job, because he pretty much left those issues to my discretion. Interestingly, he told me since I was working late tonight, I could leave early and then go directly to the clients office. I worked from the office handling calls from clients and technicians with ease and an attitude of control. Even over the phone, I heard a tone of respect toward my directions and opinions. Man, the work day went on in an easy manner! I spoke with one of the gals in accounting and found she was willing to do what I ask immediately and not put it off until later. I spoke with her a few minutes on what docs I wanted to pull up. She was busy with her own work load, but I pushed her with my tone and body language (I also had an internal thought and attitude of why can’t she do this for me now, I have to leave early and don’t have her time!) to get the copies I needed to me within an hour. Yup, it was done! It’s good to be the king! Normally, I’ll just request it and she’ll get them to me when she can that day. I reapplied the mix(minus 1 drop of A314) @ about 4 pm. Working late afternoon and evening with a client, had a good convo with IT guys. Was fun and laid back. They had a network called Skynet and basically, I said something like, so the password to it is John Conner? And they both busted up! One of them said, no, its Death to Humans and laughed again. It was fun, but not that funny! So, I did get the IO+IH+IS combo hits there. And yes, the A314 was at work as well as I could see from both of them have a beta attitude, for example, averting the eyes when making contact with mine, letting me walk ahead of them through out the building, opening the door for me… I spoke with the owner of the company for a couple of minutes and got a warm thanks for coming vibe when he normally is a bit stand offish, puts out a ‘distrust in all’ vibe. He actually thank me for coming in late and working with his team! That recognition felt good! While we waited for some processes to complete, there was this guy that I’ve met before in the marketing department that was also working late who usually irritates me. In the way that he’s a smart-aleck that always wants to get a laugh and sometimes trys to force you to join in. I wasn’t having any of that tonight! An example of his attitude and convos with him as the center of attention in a group of his co-workers, when I walk into the area and he blurts out, ‘Do you know where I can get a chicken pot pie? I have a craving for pot pie!’ Everyone busts out laughing. I look him squarely in the eyes and arch and eyebrow and say loudly, ‘Are you _ **SURE** _ you aren’t pregnant?!? That sounds suspiciously like a pregnant women’s cravings!’ Everyone laughed even harder and he said something like, well, I hadn’t had it for a long while and felt a hunger for it!. I mentioned, well, with this weather, I could understand how something hot like that could be something you would want. Exactly! He says, see, it looks like you have that craving too!!! I said, No… I just said I could understand what you said, but I wouldn’t want any pot pie! He says, ok, ok, then we agree to disagree…The convos continue but I can tell by his stance (well, he was standing when he was speaking to me and then he sat as his desk and continued to talk) that he was giving me my room. Also, I noticed an asian gal in the group was looking at me, sizing me up, but trying not to be noticed. Well, I noticed! This A314 is powerful stuff! If I hadn’t used the socials I would have been a complete dickhead!!! **Conclusion:** I’m becoming intoxicated by the A314! I need MORE Alpha-ness!! More, more, MORE!!! I deserve it, damn it! The IS did help temper the strong A314 self effects and it seems to have helped tempering my attitude with others. With one drop and the residuals 2x of the morning, the A314 look like 1 to 2 drops max should be my application sweet spot in general. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 5:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/43 "2010-10-19T17:03:30Z")
Double Trouble Combo I’ll be trying out this mix again as I wanted to verify the A314 reaction, if it really was making me an agressive alpha! **Double Trouble Combos:** 2x A314 (drops) 2x IS\*2 strength 2x IH \*2 strength 2x IO \*2 ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 5:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/44 "2010-10-24T05:20:43Z")
I’ve been giving this combo a try for the last 5 days before I start out with IG tomorrow. I have re-applied the IH or IS during the day with 2 more sprays. I’m falling for the A314, it’s been giving me a sense of resoluteness and grit I had rarely felt before. Not with this consistency. I decided to leave out the IO to compare what I already know about IS and IH. How these socials will interact with the A314 on me. **Double Trouble Combos:** 2x A314 (drops) 2x IS\*2 strength 2x IH \*2 strength **App Points:** Both sides of neck, back of head, back of neck, throat and wrists rubbed on neck. Re-application is on the left and right side of back of neck. **Venue:** Work/ OFFICE/ Clients / Social **Temp:** Low to mid 60 degrees F. cloudy then drizzle and rain - Humidity @ 90% during these days. Application Time: 8:30 usually, today was 9:30 am. Re-application was @ 4 hours after initial application. **Self Effects:** The IS seems to be losing it’s initial jolt of near euphoria and is now mostly a feeling of serenity. I notice this is not as strong as when I tried it by itself and that feeling seems to have almost diminished by this last day. It does keep me awake, though, and going through out the day. Cloudy, gloomy weather was not a problem. Even if I felt a yawn come up, It would go away promptly. Where as pre - p application, I would have been going for my siesta for at least 1/2 an hour. I definitely felt raring to go on the days I re-applied IS. When I re-applied IH, though I may have felt a little tired without the re-infusion of IS, it was more of a step up in communications. Though it didn’t seem to matter in what form! It could be digital communication or over the phone I was more talkative. I would also seem to want to communicate MORE information. Sometimes I can get into that frame of mind if I’m feeling particularly comfortable, pre - p application. Now, it would occur during the day and after re-application, more urgently so. I normally apply the Socials and gauge my initial reactions then apply A314. When I applied A314 on Monday first, man, I had a feeling of interior strength and assuredness. That boldness and self confidence would turn aggressive. I wanted to observe the effects of A314 for the first 5 to 10 minutes then sprayed on the socials when I left. During that time frame, a very serious and focused Alpha! The socials calmed that down somewhat after their application. So, when I tried the socials first, I didn’t get to the aggressive of A314, but just to boldness and self confidence. Eventually, I want to get an OD on my A314. Want to know what that tastes like!!! **Effects on others:** So my super has been very accommodating to my thoughts and recommendations. He seemed to agree and atune himself to my thoughts. I even got a couple of extra days working from home for the last weeks because so much work that needs to be done on EST or even Taiwan time. Gets me some extra time off last week. Asian accounting girls came up during lunch and basically fidgeted before asking me about something work related which didn’t need both of them, and besides it was our lunch hour, and then one of them blurted out that she liked my cologne! That was interesting! I thanked her and let her take a whiff on my wrists. She loved it! During an onsite visit, I spoke with client E for a while, this guy, I’ve known for many years, though it could be months before I see him again. He is a laid back kind of guy. We were working on an issue together but eventually he was presenting me to others in the office, with a ton of respect and you should respect him too sort of tone. He was very forthcoming on issues that normally we wouldn’t discuss about suggestions and recommendations they were considering but now he was telling me things that the client had in private conference meetings! It was weird. I had him and IT director basically accepting all of my recommendations and asking for a turn around time! It’s been years since something like this has happened. Did help them out alot and got additional contracts for my company, which I normally don’t do! I’m mostly in a support capacity, sales guys are sent out to do what I just did! It was a good feeling! And they normally take months to get my results in a couple of days! Conversations were flowing in all of these cases as well as a carefree happy attitude. The serious vibe was always present as a I’m a no nonsense kind of man, but the Socials DID help even things out! I was accepting of others but also exuded a feeling of you MUST respect and LISTEN to me. That was a great feeling and to see the compliance in others was great!!! I did get a couple of different guys test me out, saying things like your so full of yourself you want all of the attention. Basically, I answered something like Since you don’t have a clue, I need to take charge to get things done! They backed down after showing them the error of their ways and then bringing them around to my way of thinking. Eventually, after giving out some compliments in there direction, they were at ease with me! At home, the scene was of a relaxed nature. She has been much more relaxed as of late, but still worries about things that are happening at home. Though A does appear composed and unwound. I would like to try A314 + IO and see how different or the same it is with the reactions above. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 4:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/45 "2010-10-25T04:30:12Z")
Instant Gentleman Sweet spot Test **[Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) Sweet spot Test** IG x 1 spray **App Points:** Throat **Venue:** Home / Social **Temp:** Mid to Upper 60s degrees F. cloudy with sun - Humidity @ 60% **Application Time:** 9:30 am Re-application same amount was @ 4 hours after initial application, 1:30 pm. **Self Effects:** Felt fine at ease, this morning, refreshed, pre-p application. Slept well. After application, felt a relaxed confidence slowly take over. Was feeling like I can speak my mind easily without worrying what some friends thought. I had an ease of speaking with these friends I was with. **Effects on Others** We had several friends over for breakfast and spend the morning together. I was not cracking jokes or things along those lines, more like I was expecting to be the center of attention and spoke to them with appreciation and wanted them to be comfortable with me. They were very comfortable and smiled and laughed several times this morning! Got some kino from women that I have known for many years. One of them isn’t like that with me, ever, but today as we spent time driving to the store together, was giving kino when we got back to my house. She was at ease with me, much more than usual. I took these kino’s as if I was expecting to have them. I felt at ease with them and radiated this at ease feeling to her as well. That seemed to be the attitude that IG gives me. A cool, comfortable feeling of being at ease with myself! This was after the re-application time, about 1 hour afterwards, another 10 years younger women friend who had occasionally shown kino in the past, hugs on meeting and leaving for example, besides these, would also touch my shoulder, arms while we were talking. A and I met an old friend and his wife, early 50’s both very fit and look 15 years younger. Also got hugs and kino from wife which isn’t normally the case. However, could be that we haven’t ‘seen’ each other in several years. Though had communicated by phone, email, etc. Husband though was mirroring my movements at dinner. I tested him out with my arm movements. Had a very comfortable at ease conversation with them, myself and A, for about 3 hours. I just can’t help but wonder what would have happened if I had my IH and IO on!!! I like IG! I will be trying 2x IG tomorrow and refresh about 4 hours into test. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 1:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/46 "2010-10-26T01:17:03Z")
**[Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) Sweet spot Test** IG x 2 spray **App Points** : Both sides of neck. **Venue:** Drive to work/ Work **Temp:** Mid to upper 70’s degrees F. cloudy with sun - Humidity @ 45% **Application Time:** 9:15 am Re-application same amount was @ 4 1/2 hours after initial application, 2:00 pm. **Self Effects:** Woke up with a crick in the left side of my neck and was feeling tired. Didn’t sleep well, this was pre-p application. Morning rituals were a chore. After application, felt slightly more awake. Drove into work and was feeling somewhat better. Still have some pain in the neck… **Effects on Others** Got some good respect signs from sales person who was being a bit pushy on how I basically took his client. I had visited a client and basically closed the sale, meaning I’m the one with the bonus. That’s why he was a bit miffed. But, after talking to him a couple of minutes, he basically ended up backing off. Super had some good respect signs as well, letting me try out some new hardware that we have in the office at home. That was cool! No other hits that I could tell. I was still somewhat out of it because of my morning, but, strangely, I didn’t feel tired or sleepy today at all. Normally, pre-p, I would be looking to lay my head on the desk during a lul in my work. Not too much interaction with others today, but tomorrow I will be trying out 3 sprays while visiting clients I haven’t seen in years. That will hopefully show off the IG. Well see… ---
**Author:** ![pheromojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheromojo/32/368_2.png) [@pheromojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pheromojo)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 8:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/47 "2010-10-26T08:36:46Z")
> [@1Alpha](#): > > Basically, found that 6x IS is somewhat better in responses from others, in a meeting that I had for 40 minutes at a clients office. > > For self effects, IS 4x is great effects on others, good. > > For self effects only IS 2x is good enough. Low effects on others. You are referring to 3 sprays, 2 sprays, and then 1 spray, since you are using double strength, correct? Or are you using that many sprays of double strength??? :o ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 3:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/48 "2010-10-26T15:06:03Z")
> [@pheromojo](#): > > You are referring to 3 sprays, 2 sprays, and then 1 spray, since you are using double strength, correct? Or are you using that many sprays of double strength??? :o Hey Bud! Yes, that post was referring to actual sprays of the IS TOGO, single strength. I have an 30ml IS\*2 strength but for those posts I was using the TOGO. That IS TOGO has finished it’s tour of duty! I had a small ceremony on his departure to the bathroom trashcan.☹🙄 In my double trouble mix, I’ve been using this IS\*2 strength. pheromojo, have you been getting any hits on the AMMO? I believe you were trying that out… ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 4:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/49 "2010-10-27T04:06:40Z")
IG Test As I didn’t have much opportunity to interact with people I didn’t know with 2 sprays, I continued with 2. Again, this is a TOGO, single strength. **[Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) Sweet spot Test** IG x 2 spray **App Points:** Both sides of neck. Re-application the same. **Venue:** Drive to Clients x 4 locations **Temp:** Mid to upper 60’s degrees F. cloudy with sun - Humidity @ 40% - PM mid to upper 70’s **Application Time:** 8:15 am Re-application same amount was @ 4 hours after initial application, 12:00 pm. Then again @ 4:00 pm. **Self Effects:** Woke up refreshed and spent a couple of hours doing some things around the house and walk D. Light breakfast with A. Just before leaving, applied and felt about the same, refreshed and ready to go. Drove @ 40 minute to first client. Possibly a more confident feeling increasing while driving. Didn’t feel tired or sleepy today at all. **Effects on Others** First client visit, spoke to receptionist, late 40’s possibly, was a bit hard lined when I greeted her. Asked about my appointment with G. She asked me to wait in the lobby while she contacted him. Spent about 3 minutes there. I felt loose and confident so I asked about her morning and she was softer in her tone to me as well as visibly more relaxed when finished with that initial convo. G was hard lined as well, not pleased with some difficulties with orders and install from our company. Did feel that I could handle his fuming, though I was thinking that A314+IS in the mix would have been better for both of us! 🙂 After taking care of some of his issues with his network, he was calmed. I was very clear and specific about what he was fuming about and said something like, you said these are some of the things that you wanted taken care of sooner rather than later, right? He went off on a tangent, fuming again, and I had to bring him back to point with, I can see why that wouldn’t be acceptable, though, some of these issues that you needed to have done, I’ve already taken care of them for you, right? Which he had to agree. I explained calmly what other steps were needed to fulfill his request but as I cannot give him exact pricing, I suggested he speak with his sales rep at the office. Though he was calmer, things didn’t go well with my company sales rep. Ended up billing partial for work done in the previous week and getting a full service rate for my services. He was good with that. BTW, while I worked in the warehouse, the manager there was very helpful offering up info that he over heard I needed in my convo’s. He was busy himself and even did what he could to help. Also, warehouse personnel, though busy and working, had been working for about 1/2 hour in there office area, a couple were also offering to help move things out of the way, etc, even though not there job. Noticed respect hits there. Also, had to work under the receptionist as well and had a several laughs, big smiles, and couple of kinos that weren’t needed but seemed to be her way of reassuring me that she was comfortable with me. Was very polite and respectful giving me more room than i, moving things that didn’t need to be moved,while under the desk. Talking to her about her network related issues, she was very understanding and agreed with me every time i needed her opinion. Other clients office, IT manager and director were very accommodating. I spoke with them in the server room for a couple of minutes and were asking if i needed a ladder, I said no, I should be fine, the Director said, well, I’ll bring it just in case you need it, and walked off to the warehouse to bring me a ladder! I thanked him, but, really didn’t need it. Convos were smooth with the manager going with my suggestions, though it did give him some extra work. Not sure on respect hits here, as I’ve worked with them before, about a month ago and got a good rapport with them, just seemed to be enhanced by the IG. During this office visit was the time I re-applied @ 12:00. My super arrived during this visit. We had a conf with the both IT and it was smooth. My super, was relaxed and invited me to lunch right afterward. Not always ready to invite me for lunch but he has done this in the past. Likely, because this client visit went well and his favorite restaurant was nearby. Though he did order me some a meal of duck, beef and intestine to go! He knows I like the beef and his favorites are duck and intestine. Well, I got dinner as well!!!🙂 Next client front desk, again, gal about mid 30’s(?) harder to gauge because she was Asian, most likely from Guandong, Southeast China, spent time with her, about 5 minutes waiting for the IT Manager to meet me in the lobby. Spoke to her during this time and though I’ve had interactions with her when I’ve visited and she was cool in her convos before, I could tell she was animated to talk now. Like she felt at ease with me. IT Manager was very animated and at ease as well. He was relaxed and could tell in his tone, glad to have me there. I know the issues I was resolving were important to him, so, it was a factor in his being so relaxed to have me working on his troubles. Scheduled to continue tomorrow. See what 3x IG does, if anything different! Last client visit, right after application @4:00pm, walking in, G and H, both guys I’ve worked with in the past were upbeat though they both looked tired from some issues they’ve been working on. H was cracking jokes and looking to me for approval, which I easily gave and contributed as well. G was somewhat more stressed, but when we spoke at length, he was calm and open to suggestions and clear on his concerns. Plan of attack was worked out and left @ 6:30pm. I will return tomorrow as well and see what 3x IG does here as well! ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 6:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/50 "2010-10-27T06:55:23Z")
Oops. IG Doesn’t have a double strength… I’m testing with IG Every day same strength… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![pheromojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheromojo/32/368_2.png) [@pheromojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pheromojo)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2010, 5:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/51 "2010-10-29T05:33:50Z")
> [@1Alpha](#): > > Oops. IG Doesn’t have a double strength… > > I’m testing with IG Every day same strength… 🙂 I’ve only used ammo a handful of times but I did get some more positive reactions, especially from some girls at work, but the way I am, its not like “professional” is ever in my agenda so its more like casual encounters when I’m there. I mention that because some people say -none is inappropriate for work, and that just doesnt apply to me because, well, work is play for me. I have had the best luck with one spray. I accidentally used 2 1/2 to 3 and got some ghosting, so I’m gonna say 1 works best for me. However, I have to say I had some FANTASTIC results with A1. Its a shame IFM was discontinued. A1 is my favorite so far. I dont know how useful it would be to people you dont know well, but its amazing for girls youve known for a while. IH double strength kind of hits me hard with self effects 🙂 My filter is just gone. I havent been able to test it solo in a good environment yet, but its good with A1 I believe. Shine double strength is next in my shopping cart. Is it just me, or does it seem like there is no overdose potential? Just a point to where more doesnt make a difference and you dont want to be wasteful right? Actually, come to think of it, just about all of them but A1 alphanol(spaced out) and none fit in that category right? ---
**Author:** ![MISTIKO](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mistiko/32/1956_2.png) [@MISTIKO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MISTIKO)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2010, 12:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/52 "2010-10-29T12:15:47Z")
nice recommendation… ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2010, 4:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/53 "2010-10-29T16:55:26Z")
> [@pheromojo](#): > > I’ve only used ammo a handful of times but I did get some more positive reactions, especially from some girls at work, but the way I am, its not like “professional” is ever in my agenda so its more like casual encounters when I’m there. I mention that because some people say -none is inappropriate for work, and that just doesnt apply to me because, well, work is play for me. > > I have had the best luck with one spray. I accidentally used 2 1/2 to 3 and got some ghosting, so I’m gonna say 1 works best for me. > > However, I have to say I had some FANTASTIC results with A1. Its a shame IFM was discontinued. A1 is my favorite so far. I dont know how useful it would be to people you dont know well, but its amazing for girls youve known for a while. > > IH double strength kind of hits me hard with self effects 🙂 My filter is just gone. I havent been able to test it solo in a good environment yet, but its good with A1 I believe. > > Shine double strength is next in my shopping cart. Is it just me, or does it seem like there is no overdose potential? Just a point to where more doesnt make a difference and you dont want to be wasteful right? Actually, come to think of it, just about all of them but A1 alphanol(spaced out) and none fit in that category right? From what I can see on Shine, I would agree with you. I don’t see a difference in my case when I go beyond 2 x IS \*2 strength. What I’ve tried out as well is using this amount of IS sprayed onto a base of Pond’s Dry Skin Cream. Then I apply that to my face, hands and elbows. I’m still trying it out, but the self effects seem muted but others do seem to have a similar effect of relaxed and content around me. That is still with about 3 to 5 minutes of exposure during the day. Though for a pronounced self effect, I would add on another spray of IS to my throat. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2010, 5:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/54 "2010-10-29T17:16:39Z")
IG testing 3 sprays Yesterday was a BAD day for IG testing… ☹☹ **Burnt Instant Gentleman** IG x 3 spray **App Points:** Both sides of neck and top of head. Pre-applied through out the day, 3 x on same application points. @ 3 hours between apps trying to override the burnt! Applied 4 times during the day. **Venue:** Drive to office and client **Temp:** @ 80 degrees F. High clouds and sun - Humidity @ 30% **Application Time:** 8:00 am **Self Effects:** Woke up feeling spent. I was a bit groggy but usually, the morning shower, gets me back into it. Not much this time. Pre-p, was out of it. I applied the IG and prep’d a quick breakfast, some tea, toast with feta cheese. Not a change of self effects. I was getting caught up with email when the BAD day for IG happened! Basically, was at my office and caught a whiff of an odor. It smelled like a burning… I immediately realized that my slices of bread were burning up in the toaster! I found basically a smokey kitchen and dining room. I found one of the smaller pieces of toast burned to a crisp. Though the other 2 were fine and had a very quick breakfast of them! I took out the offending burnt toast and turned on the whole house fan, opened windows and basically, had a BAD start for the day! Unfortunate mistake!!! I spent the last of my morning time with this and then left. **Effects on Others** When I was talking to people that I’ve known for a while, they did mention an odor. They said it smelled like something had burnt. I had smelled the odor on me when I left the house and in the car, but after opening the windows I thought it was gone! But, I just got used to it. Basically, the burnt odor from the toast had impregnated my clothes and that overwhelmed other scents and I assume it did the same with the mones. Even by the end of the day I asked if they smell anything unusual, some people I interacted with would say an almost indistinguishable burnt smell! Only had convos’ on ‘what is that smell?’ and had people smiling about my goof up! **NOTE: Will an overpowering odor like this burnt smell negate the mones? Got to test that out further.** ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/55 "2010-10-29T19:57:56Z")
Well, since I got P114, today I started with P114 testing. I created another Thread just for it! I’ll continue to test the other commercial products here like IO, IH and AMMO. I’ll be getting CTTM next round of orders!!! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![samuraitea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/samuraitea/32/1998_2.png) [@samuraitea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/samuraitea)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 12:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/56 "2010-10-30T12:26:10Z")
> [@1Alpha](#): > > **Instant Shine Testing Day 8:** > 3x IS > > **Conclusions:** > > 3x IS will give me a feeling of being alert mentally and I would say a satisfaction with just life in general. A feeling of everything will be fine, let’s just smile since we are together! The effects lasted about 5 hours. Also did feel that my appetite was diminished during the day. I worked through lunch and got something to eat when I left the office. > Effects on others seem more obviously inclined to be content (I wouldn’t call it Happy). A relaxed vibe I would call it as well. These effects were seen after about 2 minutes of exposure, but again, not on everyone. > I’ll try out 4x IS then 5 x IS the next couple of days. You noticed that your appetite was gone?!?! That is insane! I need to do some testing with IS and my stomach!!! lol I have to eat, but not to the extent I do on average 😛 Workingout really takes a toll on your metabolism ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 3:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/57 "2010-10-30T15:35:28Z")
> [@samuraitea](#): > > You noticed that your appetite was gone?!?! That is insane! I need to do some testing with IS and my stomach!!! lol I have to eat, but not to the extent I do on average 😛 Workingout really takes a toll on your metabolism Yup, that seems to be the case for me. Though yesterday, I was testing with P114 and had a good lunch, I was HUNGRY! Had some Chinese food at a local place, close to work. For working out, I basically do free weights and pull ups at home. I have a basic routine and an extended version. I’ve only been doing the basic routine, a few times a week, the previous weeks. That included the IS test days. That is 30 minutes for the basic routine. Maybe that contributed to NOT having an appetite? I’m still keeping an eye on how other mones affect my eating habits. Would be sweet to just spray a mone and KNOW you will be suppressing your appetite!!! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![samuraitea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/samuraitea/32/1998_2.png) [@samuraitea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/samuraitea)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 3:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/58 "2010-10-30T15:40:51Z")
lol too bad they make pills for that 😛 but that is an incredibly interesting self affect! Lets keep seeing on what else you notice! Keep it up! ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 6:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/59 "2010-11-02T06:51:05Z")
Ok, I wanted to try some of the TUTH and AMMO again and see what I got. I just wanted to observe how others would take them. So, to begin with what I had P114, from about 3 hour old application. I applied 3x AMMO + 2x IO\*2 + 1x TUTH. Basically took it grocery shopping. I was afraid…that I might get looks…like I’m a weenie…on the prowl…ready to get it on with any girl that came by… Well, I think the AMMO gave me a confidence boost, not the A314 seriousness, but just a confidence in being in my own skin. The IO was present as it normally is with chattiness. I did get some wide smiles and an almost wink but more like a squint from the smile as well, from older ladies ,mid 40’s or so, which they held with me for a few seconds and I didn’t feel uncomfortable at all. Normally, with that length of time and that twinkle, I would have gotten a bit of the willies! I was at the Deli, waiting for my number to come up and the guys and women were starting to chat up. I may smile or say hi to someone next to me if our eyes cross paths but usually we’re all just waiting around checking what’s cold meats are on special, looking at the cheeses or anything else that they are selling but not much at other customers. Well, I notice this one lady, who came up next to me, looking at the products. Was there for less than a minute, when I decided to go across to the other side of the deli to see if I missed something from that area, about 10 feet away. This lady follows me there! I thought that was peculiar, so to see if it was a fluke, I spent another minute there and then walked to the center of the deli waiting area, weaved around a few people to get there. A few minutes later, that same lady was standing next to me waiting for her number as well! She was unconsciously following me around! I smiled and said Hi, seems like there taking their time! She responds with a smile as well and agrees and starts talking about what she is looking to get. I politely say, that sounds good and let the convo end there. Now, at the same time I notice another man who I had smiled at when I arrived and said a brief hi, had asked for some samples of the meats and wanted to share with us. He came to me as well and asked for me to try some of them which I did and thanked him warmly for the thoughtful gesture. Now, the lady and gent standing in front of me, after sampling, start talking to each other out loud on what they prefer and start talking to my caboose what they suggest for her to get. She also starts talking to them and they are now in a full on convo and the ladies are telling me about the importance of eating healthy, its better for things to cost a little more than getting some of the fatty, salty, water filled cheaper meats…The guy was avoiding me and actually mumbled something to his wife and walked away. Both women were smiling and just comfortable in convo. Some other people behind me got into it as well and we were 6 in a loose little huddle in the middle of the waiting area of this deli! This lasted for about 2 minutes. It was like there was a sudden green light for everyone around me to start talking, and not all directed to me, it just seemed like the faucet for speech in their brains said, OK…Talk NOW! I was waiting there for about 5 minutes when this started to happen. I was within 2 to 3 feet of everyone there at some point. I think weaving between them helped spread the mones as well. Not my intention since I was just seeing if my caboose would tag along. Well, I got my meats and products and left. Oh, one other hit…I was at another area of the store, the bakery where they have ready made products or you can talk to the gal about breads and cakes they made that day. I was waiting there for the gal behind the counter to be available since she was talking to a customer. Another cute little lady in her shopping cart was all giggles and smiles at me. I smiled back and turned around. I felt her looking at me and I turned and, yup, she was all smiles at me. She lifted her hand at me and I smiled at her widely. I told her mum that she had a very cute daughter that would steal a man’s heart someday! Her mum also smiled and laughed a bit. Then, proceeded to tell me how much she loved her little girl, that it was her first, that motherhood seems so natural to her. I smiled and said to the little girl, about 11 months old, you have a great woman as your mom, keep her close always! and mum was all smiles and told me you’re soo sweet! I said bye and went to get my baked goods. IO was evident! I guess I’ll have to try more AMMO and MORE TUTH, change my venue, and try to go for an OD on it!!! ---
**Author:** ![pheromojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheromojo/32/368_2.png) [@pheromojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pheromojo)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 4:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/60 "2010-11-04T04:59:46Z")
I’m interested in your results for a -none OD. That sounds exciting! 🙂 I only tried to OD once with just 3 togo shots of ammo and just got ghosting except from the people that know me well… They didnt seem any different. I also need to do a little more studying. I feel behind. When I first joined I was up for hours at a time browsing the forum, and I havent been doing my homework recently. 1Alpha, here you go already buying putatives and putting a bunch more on your wish list, and I dont have a clue what they are even supposed to do. 😛 I wish there was a complete guide on the different putatives out. All the “guides” are scattered and incomplete, it seems to me. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340.md?page=2) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340.md?page=4)