# Starting out with 'mones: Takin' it nice and slow... NOT!

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [October 5, 2010, 6:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340 "2010-10-05T06:57:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![laciera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/da6949/32.png) [@laciera](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/laciera)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 8:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/141 "2011-03-15T20:07:19Z")

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Ive actually had a full out stalker effect with pherlure aswell.  
she followed me for a good 20 mins, random girl at school I didnt know, whereever i walked she just followed along without me saying anything. or even knowing her

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 8:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/142 "2011-03-15T20:14:05Z")

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Thanks for sharing that experience! She was forced to inhale your mone cloud in the closed environment of your car! 🙂

Ok, for a similar, IOI’s and attention from gals, yes, I get this from AMMO. I’ve used up 5 sprays of AMMO by itself and get interest from the gals, normally younger than me. I don’t act on those indicators and just talk to them with interest, like people. BUT, I do see the hair twirling, leaning into me, touching my arm, continuous direct eye contact with intense interest in what I’m saying… etc.

THOUGH, personally, don’t care for the FF21 scent of AMMO. So, as this isn’t what I’m looking for in results from my mones, I add AMMO occasionally to my combos. As I also get other things from it, like a confidence in my own skin and attraction that opens up conversations.  
I may like it a bit more if I customize it with [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/)… I’ve been thinking about doing that…

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**Author:** ![laciera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/da6949/32.png) [@laciera](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/laciera)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 8:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/143 "2011-03-15T20:24:16Z")

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> [@1Alpha](#):
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> Thanks for sharing that experience! She was forced to inhale your mone cloud in the closed environment of your car! 🙂
> 
> Ok, for a similar, IOI’s and attention from gals, yes, I get this from AMMO. I’ve used up 5 sprays of AMMO by itself and get interest from the gals, normally younger than me. I don’t act on those indicators and just talk to them with interest, like people. BUT, I do see the hair twirling, leaning into me, touching my arm, continuous direct eye contact with intense interest in what I’m saying… etc.
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> THOUGH, personally, don’t care for the FF21 scent of AMMO. So, as this isn’t what I’m looking for in results from my mones, I add AMMO occasionally to my combos. As I also get other things from it, like a confidence in my own skin and attraction that opens up conversations.  
> I may like it a bit more if I customize it with Akuto… I’ve been thinking about doing that…

did you used to use this5 spray AMMO in day time or night time at bars?  
so i guess ammo can be used in the day by itself? or did you mix when u put on 5sprays ammo

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 4:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/144 "2011-03-16T04:27:49Z")

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> [@laciera](#):
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> did you used to use this5 spray AMMO in day time or night time at bars?  
> so i guess ammo can be used in the day by itself? or did you mix when u put on 5sprays ammo

Yeah, here is a link to what happened on a 6x AMMO without any other mones:

> [@Starting out with 'mones: Takin' it nice and slow... NOT!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/84):
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> I got my AMMO with some other goodies thrown in by the good folks at AD!!! (Thank you Ben for the inspiring note on the AD invoice…!slight_smile) I had a few options as I was going to see a couple of clients which I had seen within the last week and had yet to try out the AMMO solo… So I said, eh… what the hay!!! Let’s give this puppy a try! 6 x AMMO (30 ml bottle, regular strength) with 3 applications during the day of the same amount! 8:00 am Application 3 to hair, one to each side of m…

I refreshed during the day…

Yes, used during the day or evening… No problem!!! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Cookie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d26b3c/32.png) [@Cookie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cookie)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 3:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/145 "2011-03-17T03:18:26Z")

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How fascinating to venture on the guys’ side 🙂. I am on of the girls and really enjoy your journey.  
By the way, how would you interpret it if a girl was looking at you but would look down as if she is shy?

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 7:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/146 "2011-03-18T19:01:18Z")

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> [@Cookie](#):
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> How fascinating to venture on the guys’ side 🙂. I am on of the girls and really enjoy your journey.  
> By the way, how would you interpret it if a girl was looking at you but would look down as if she is shy?

Hi Cookie! Thanks for venturing!! 🙂 I enjoy reading up on others experiences with mones, guys and gals. Especially gals… 😃 Mostly because I like to see how gals look at mones, their point of view. Sometimes, I can forget how gals see things…

Well, a gal looking down, usually, yes, shyness would be my first thought, ‘this gal is shy’… though depending on how long she avoids looking me in the eye, I may think she is self conscious and unsure of her personality.

I also think about her age as well. This is may occur more often in young teen gals that I’ve met. Her experience in life and in interacting with an older male, such as myself, may find that we don’t have a common ground to talk… so if I’m in need to converse, I’ll look for common ground and try to bring some at ease vibe her way by smiling and complementing, if I can do so honestly.

Now, eye contact is important in your body communications as it shares your attitude and sentiments. In many cultures you can promote trust in yourself just be holding eye contact with an expression of friendliness. On the other hand, you can even begin to doubt the sincerity or self confidence of the person who is looking at the floor or away from the person they are talking to…

Also, as this is an international forum, it will also depend on the customs or culture of the place where you live. You know, some cultures frown upon and find it an affront for a young person to look directly in the eye an adult while speaking to them…

So, a bit more of the environment this is happening, with who, and what the convo is about would help…

BUT, I’m being a bit long winded… funny to be that way on a forum! 😛

I’ll let you’all talk now!!! 🙂

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 5:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/147 "2011-04-03T05:26:49Z")

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I tried out 5 sprays of IG with a couple of IH\*2 on the wrists…

I was meeting up with some younger guys I mentor and I’ve used IG before with them. It provides a comfort zone around me. I get some very open conversations and have a fatherly vibe around them. Though, one young man had become very chatter box… I’ve used IG before with him as well as A314 and found that these seem to bring about a reduction in communications… even with IS, he sporadically becomes more of a one word to one sentence responder…

Now, with the IH he was continuously speaking to me and wanting to just talk about all things that have gone on recently in his life. I was accommodating and listened with interest. He needed to get some things, personal, off his chest and I gave him some private time for that, while the other 2 young ones were working on a school project.

I’m always impressed with IH, though, as in this case, some get hit really hard with it and just let it ALL out! Of course, I needed to show him my interest and show him that I’m LISTENING to him and found that, with this attitude, was able to help him out!!! Great feeling! These guys, @ 14 to 16, with the one with the hard IH hit, being 14.

This was about 1 hour after my initial application and was in the corner of a multipurpose room behind an indoor basketball court at a local park. They have programs for the local community youth here. It was an open area, around tables, within 5 feet of me.

In my experience with young ones, IS, IO, IG, A314, and IH are just fine around them. But, as with adults, some my have a harder ‘hit’/response to the mones than others.

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**Author:** ![extraballislit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/extraballislit/32/712_2.png) [@extraballislit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/extraballislit)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 4:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/148 "2011-04-03T16:41:03Z")

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Hi.

I am also a newbie and have also read your whole journal.

Thanks for posting great information.

I still haven´t made my first order, but i will do it soon. You can´t really understand what all this is about unless you give it a try, can you?🆒

After reading your threads, for sure i will order some A 314.

Keep the good work.

Talk to you soon

Xtraball

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 8:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/149 "2011-04-03T20:38:02Z")

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> [@extraballislit](#):
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> Hi.
> 
> I am also a newbie and have also read your whole journal.
> 
> Thanks for posting great information.
> 
> I still haven´t made my first order, but i will do it soon. You can´t really understand what all this is about unless you give it a try, can you?🆒
> 
> After reading your threads, for sure i will order some A 314.
> 
> Keep the good work.
> 
> Talk to you soon
> 
> Xtraball

WOW!!! Xtraball, you went through the whole journal!!! I’m humbled!!! :o

Best way to learn about mones is to try them yourself. Don’t get me wrong, I learned alot by reading up on the forums here as well as posting questions, but until I started out with my IS togo, then, my eyes brightened with understanding!! 🙂

Thanks for posting and I’ll be on the look out for your own journal! 😃

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/150 "2011-04-12T17:07:15Z")

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So, I’ve been using my mones continually for a few weeks now and I find that I need to give myself a couple of days rest, at least.

I can tell that I’m overdoing it when I get tired several hours later from my mone application. Even with a good nights sleep, if I’ve overreached my mones application in relation to my NT… I’ll crash several hours later. I though that if I just applied nols or IG, in less quantity, I’d be ok. NOPE! I need to get a few days ‘rest’ for my body to readjust. I’ll have to look up that thread on boosting NT levels!!!  
I’ve seen this happen before and I’ve been able to mitigate these effects with a couple of days off, but pushed too far this time around. I stepped too close the edge… I need to stop and take stock, then I can continue!!! 😛

Still have several P’s I want to test out, but will likely start up again over the weekend…

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**Author:** ![PhenS](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phens/32/1666_2.png) [@PhenS](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhenS)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2011, 7:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/151 "2011-04-12T19:47:25Z")

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Have a nice rest…we’ll be waiting patiently 😉

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**Author:** ![extraballislit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/extraballislit/32/712_2.png) [@extraballislit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/extraballislit)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2011, 9:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/152 "2011-04-12T21:50:45Z")

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Hi, 1alpha.

DHL just send me an e-mail telling my order is on it´s way 🙂

I´ll start my own journal as soon as i recieve it.

By the way, what does “NT levels” mean, and why should anyone care about boosting them?

Thanks a lot.

Talk to you soon.

Xtraball

> [@1Alpha](#):
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> So, I’ve been using my mones continually for a few weeks now and I find that I need to give myself a couple of days rest, at least.
> 
> I can tell that I’m overdoing it when I get tired several hours later from my mone application. Even with a good nights sleep, if I’ve overreached my mones application in relation to my NT… I’ll crash several hours later. I though that if I just applied nols or IG, in less quantity, I’d be ok. NOPE! I need to get a few days ‘rest’ for my body to readjust. I’ll have to look up that thread on boosting NT levels!!!  
> I’ve seen this happen before and I’ve been able to mitigate these effects with a couple of days off, but pushed too far this time around. I stepped too close the edge… I need to stop and take stock, then I can continue!!! 😛
> 
> Still have several P’s I want to test out, but will likely start up again over the weekend…

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2011, 10:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/153 "2011-04-12T22:06:22Z")

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NT = Neurotransmitters. It seems like the mone crash effect is a reflection of NT depletion. Each person is different and some will not have the same or as pronounced effect with continual mone usage. As with anything, I think we can have too much of a good thing…  
I was looking for some info that I read on the forum on this and this is what I was looking for:

I liked this comment by Tisha…

> [@Zapped Neurotransmitters](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/zapped-neurotransmitters/49534/8):
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> Just take a break a few days a week from using mones. Your neurotransmitters snap right back to normal as long as there is nothing physically wrong going on in the first place to put them off balance. I do suggest taking a good multivitamin high in B’s and drinking lots of water. You dont have to go all hog wild taking weird supplements. Its not that I dont believe in supplements but I am a advocate for going as natural as possible as well when you can. If you cant get the results after the…

As well as Radman’s thread here:

> [@My take on Pheromones and Neurotransmitters.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-take-on-pheromones-and-neurotransmitters/41366):
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> Initial observation: Numerous reports of certain pheromones causing effects ranging from tired/drowsy/lethargic feelings, crankiness and moodiness, and mild to severe headaches. Now before I started experimenting with pheromones I was very much into kickboxing and weight training. I’ve experienced these symptoms when I would overtrain. Overtraining depletes neurotransmitters and this effect on brain chemistry can result in any or all of the above listed effects. When I began taking supplements w…

Enjoy your mones, wisely! 🙂

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 10:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/154 "2011-04-15T22:44:28Z")

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So… sorry… I couldn’t help myself… I was shooting for 3 DAYS of phero abstinence… I only made it to day 2…

I’ll keep better control of myself next time… 🙂

[My post on Failure and admission of error…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/confessions-of-a-mone-addict/49894)

Oh… the HUMANITY!!! I’ve Failed you’all!!! ☹

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 8:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/155 "2011-04-20T20:11:38Z")

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Ok, today I decided to go with some A314 oil, 2 drops, and 2x strength IS.

I got my A giving me some trouble… being a bit demanding… then, I gave her some nicey, nicey comments, that deflected her irritation by saying ’ You don’t have to demand it, but it seems that you want a foot massage… I easily WANT to GIVE you a foot massage! ’ And I proceeded with the deed! She was much more relaxed and at ease with me. The [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) helped, but, I think the massage was the culprit!

I saw a higher up in the office chain of command and she at first, just commented a hello and I responded. But, then, when I passed by, she came after me to ask me about a client. I spoke briefly to her about it, while she half smiled and twirled her hair a couple of times. This asian gal is in her late 40’s… I wasn’t expecting such a response from her. We parted ways and just had a feeling that she was staring at my back while I walked to my desk. When I sat, I turned briefly to see if I’d catch her, but, she turned and walked away. Funny in a peculiar way…

I’ve been working in the presence of my Supervisor and have found that his comments continue to be relaxed and with respect. He even asked if he can bring me some lunch. Before mones, this would be a once in a several month period event. Now, just about anytime that he knows I’ll be in the office when he comes back, he’ll tell me ‘Do you want some lunch… I’m going to the asian place… some duck and fried rice?’

My normal work combo includes A314 as the base and it’s been providing a Alpha respect vibe continuously… even when I’ve been testing other molecules, such as the P’s, I can still see the residual or ECHO of the respect of A314.

IS just softens up the edge and intimidation factor of A314.

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 10:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/156 "2011-04-22T22:24:36Z")

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Well, thanks to Korth, I decided to try my A’s IS/b today… 2 spritz’s…

To the neck and wrist and rubbed to both wrists.

Immediately after application, I didn’t notice any different effects on my A. I felt like hugging her more this morning… Convo’s were norm. My self effects, noticed a bit of an ungrounded feeling like I was off from normal. I went to work and didn’t notice any difference. Just a bit of a ‘floating’ lightness about me.

About 30 minutes after application, I found that my Supervisor was a bit more interested in helping me out, putting his thoughts into getting through a project I was working on. It would have taken me almost a couple of days to get it done, but with his help I was finishing up by the end of the day.  
My phone conversations and interactions with other people in the office seemed to have some missing punch to it, on my responses to the conversations. I didn’t feel like pushing too hard for my points, I had to push myself to do so. Felt a bit like this gives me a blondie effect… like in the jokes…  
Not Coolkat’s gay vibe… no, just a vague feeling of flippancy to softness. It was a bit of a soft sided me… with other guys in the office getting a bit ‘protective’ or ‘helpful’, I guess…  
Like to try it in a social environ, just being laid back and not expecting anything or anything being expected of me.

I felt a bit out of touch, out of phase… like a Donna Summer’s tune that’s a not quite right…☹  
Like a twisted Donna Summer’s Bad Girls… [YouTube - The Donna Summer Special - Bad Girls](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ_KbwEVBjU)

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 10:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/157 "2011-04-22T22:58:25Z")

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I needed to get my mojo back for the rest of the day… mmmm… what can I do… what should I wear… back to the tried and true…

3 drops x A314

1 behind each ear lobe, dragged to my jawline. 1 spread between pulse points on my neck. Left over, rubbed under my nose.

My solid and serious persona cloak is now on! Ready for any BS!!! 🙂

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2011, 11:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/158 "2011-04-25T23:24:36Z")

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The A314 got me back to a cool and confident male vibe. I’ll have to give IS/b another go to see what and if it does the same thing.

We’ll see!!! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Korths](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/korths/32/718_2.png) [@Korths](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Korths)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 12:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/159 "2011-04-26T00:00:30Z")

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> [@1Alpha](#):
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> The A314 got me back to a cool and confident male vibe. I’ll have to give IS/b another go to see what and if it does the same thing.
> 
> We’ll see!!! 🙂

Nice man! 😃

I actually tried 3 sprays of IS/B myself some days ago;  
I was at the McDonalds, had ordered and went to get some salt n stuff.  
Then I went back to the “checkouts” to wait for my food & it did not take long time,  
before the girl at the drive-thru- turns and asks: “Have you gotten any help?”  
When I heard the word “help” I was reminded of that I was wearing 3x IS/B.  
I said “huh?” and she repeated what she said, and I annoyed said yes, I’m waiting for my food..

It’s not an cloth shop, I don’t need “help” with picking out my food. o.O  
Normally: Have you ordered?  
3x IS/B: Have you gotten any help?

I don’t know how they say in english, but in swedish it’s not a “standard” question by McDonalds Workers.. 🙄

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**Author:** ![extraballislit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/extraballislit/32/712_2.png) [@extraballislit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/extraballislit)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 3:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340/160 "2011-04-26T15:05:00Z")

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> [@1Alpha](#):
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> The A314 got me back to a cool and confident male vibe. I’ll have to give IS/b another go to see what and if it does the same thing.
> 
> We’ll see!!! 🙂

Eeeeeer… Guys… Excuse my ignorance…

When you say IS/b, what do you mean?😛

Thanks.

Talk to you soon!

Xtraball

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