# Stealth Diffusion Pros/Cons **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 13, 2012, 6:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stealth-diffusion-pros-cons/54198 "2012-01-13T06:50:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MikeMan22](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikeman22/32/332_2.png) [@MikeMan22](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MikeMan22)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 6:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stealth-diffusion-pros-cons/54198/1 "2012-01-13T06:50:07Z")
I recently have gotten some of the stealth [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/). One of the major concerns I have is that we might be losing certain indicators of interest. One of the things I loved the most about wearing MX292 and MX203 is not only did the pheromones work, but it broke the ice easy because all the girl had to do is tell me how good I smelled. What I fear, is with the stealth, we are losing some of the thing that gave us the great hits. If a girl is picking up on out pheromones and gets thinking, this guy is sexy, but she cant think of a great way to approach, then we both lose. With 292 and 203, it was so easy for girls to say they loved the way I smelled, boom, I was in. Stealth diffusion seems great for those that have great colognes, etc, but I feel we might be losing some chances. What do you all think? Am I thinking too hard about this? Or might I have a point? ---
**Author:** ![Pandakun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pandakun/32/953_2.png) [@Pandakun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pandakun)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 7:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stealth-diffusion-pros-cons/54198/2 "2012-01-13T07:06:41Z")
Well, Alot of Men Pick a Fragrance that FITS Them… For Me it’s Not a Musk but More of a Citrus Scent I Go For… I Tend to Use “Kenneth Cole Reaction”… It was Selected for Me by Afew Women I Know… Now After about 2 Years People Know Me by This Scent… So When I Show Up and Smell of A314 for Example it Throws People Off Abit… With the Limited Custom Scents You MIGHT Find Something Close Enough to Work With Your Cologne… For Example [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) Fits that Need for Me… But a Scentless or Close to Scentless Option Allows for ANY Scent to be Used or None at All… ---
**Author:** ![MikeMan22](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikeman22/32/332_2.png) [@MikeMan22](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MikeMan22)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 7:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stealth-diffusion-pros-cons/54198/3 "2012-01-13T07:17:52Z")
I guess what would be most interesting to find out is people that consistently get hits with say mx297, if they still get the same hits with stealth mx297.. Maybe its just most of the people I am around are more on the shy side, and losing that ability to spark a convo by saying you smell good.. time will tell ---
**Author:** ![HH007](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/53a042/32.png) [@HH007](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HH007)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 9:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stealth-diffusion-pros-cons/54198/4 "2012-01-13T09:29:48Z")
Hi I recently received my MX460-462 (UF2.5). I havent done any field testing but i was curious to how it smelt and the self effects and did a half spray to my wrists(MX460) and it actually smells really really nice.. I know its stealth and it does not smell as strong as FF21 or akuto but damn it smells nice… i dont really understand why hahaha ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 9:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stealth-diffusion-pros-cons/54198/5 "2012-01-13T09:38:46Z")
Alot of the time when women say you smell good it is a reaction to the pheromones, Iv had compliments on my smell when using SDT and that was after the scent had gone away. ---
**Author:** ![Pandakun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pandakun/32/953_2.png) [@Pandakun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pandakun)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 11:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stealth-diffusion-pros-cons/54198/6 "2012-01-13T11:09:53Z")
> [@THE\_GHOST](#): > > Alot of the time when women say you smell good it is a reaction to the pheromones, Iv had compliments on my smell when using SDT and that was after the scent had gone away. Very True, It Does get Used as a Standard Opener by Women… They Detect ANY Scent and Tell you It Smells Good… After All You Wouldn’t have Worn OtherWise… No One Intentional Goes Out Smelling Bad, Do They… Also an Agreeable Comment is the Easiest Way to Start a Conversation… A Common Topic to Talk About… You Can Accept the Compliment and IF You are Interested You can Continue the Conversation… That’s the Game… Sometimes You CAN Let Them Open… ---
**Author:** ![okyoureabeast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/okyoureabeast/32/1395_2.png) [@okyoureabeast](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/okyoureabeast)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 2:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stealth-diffusion-pros-cons/54198/7 "2012-01-13T14:15:20Z")
I have a stealth diffusion version of mx427. The only difference I have with it is that I can’t smell the pheromones on me. The hits tend to be about the same, but with [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) I get hit really fast with the smell and effects. With 427, it’s much more mellow and I don’t smell it as much. Oh and what is your normal response to a woman when she says, “You smell good.” That’s like me going up to a woman and telling her, “You’re beautiful.” Very much an, “uhh thanks” type of response. I thought about responding with a, “Thank you, but I don’t wear any colognes. The smell on me makes me a little sick.” 😛 Only way to make that work is to hide my collection of colognes and mones on my dresser! ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stealth-diffusion-pros-cons/54198/8 "2012-01-13T15:04:14Z")
> [@okyoureabeast](#): > > I have a stealth diffusion version of mx427. > > The only difference I have with it is that I can’t smell the pheromones on me. The hits tend to be about the same, but with Instant Shine I get hit really fast with the smell and effects. With 427, it’s much more mellow and I don’t smell it as much. > > Oh and what is your normal response to a woman when she says, “You smell good.” That’s like me going up to a woman and telling her, “You’re beautiful.” Very much an, “uhh thanks” type of response. > > I thought about responding with a, “Thank you, but I don’t wear any colognes. The smell on me makes me a little sick.” 😛 > > Only way to make that work is to hide my collection of colognes and mones on my dresser! Normally a simple “Thankyou” works for me. ---
**Author:** ![okyoureabeast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/okyoureabeast/32/1395_2.png) [@okyoureabeast](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/okyoureabeast)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 3:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stealth-diffusion-pros-cons/54198/9 "2012-01-13T15:15:14Z")
> [@THE\_GHOST](#): > > Normally a simple “Thankyou” works for me. Not nearly as fun 😛 ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 4:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stealth-diffusion-pros-cons/54198/10 "2012-01-13T16:12:26Z")
I just got the MX 460 - 462 test pack too … and Mrs. BH wants to go out this weekend, so I guess I will see how the stealth diffusion works. Have not even tested the scent. I hope it is good - the Mrs. is very particular about what scents she likes. That has killed usage of more than one product around her and why I would always pay a little extra to just get everything in neroli - to include [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/). I have 30 ml bottles - more full than empty - of MX 200, 203 and 292 (among other things) sitting around. I rreally need to take a photo and post it sometime of all the pheros I have accumulated over the years. I was a little irked though - I ordered during their freebie window but did not get the freebie … hmmmm. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 5:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stealth-diffusion-pros-cons/54198/11 "2012-01-13T17:17:25Z")
While Stealth diffusion works, and I’ve tested it bare without any cologne and the results weren’t as effective as when I did wear a cologne that complemented me. I’ve found that if you find a cologne that suits you, then you should wear it because it complements your body chemistry. I’ve gotten compliments and started conversations on cologne alone. I think that scent is an integral part of these products to personalize them for your own body even further. ---
**Author:** ![MikeMan22](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikeman22/32/332_2.png) [@MikeMan22](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MikeMan22)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 6:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stealth-diffusion-pros-cons/54198/12 "2012-01-13T18:52:43Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > While Stealth diffusion works, and I’ve tested it bare without any cologne and the results weren’t as effective as when I did wear a cologne that complemented me. I’ve found that if you find a cologne that suits you, then you should wear it because it complements your body chemistry. > > I’ve gotten compliments and started conversations on cologne alone. I think that scent is an integral part of these products to personalize them for your own body even further. Before stealth diffusion, when you wore scented mones, did you still wear cologne? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2012, 10:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stealth-diffusion-pros-cons/54198/13 "2012-01-14T10:19:48Z")
I think the compliment on scent is just an opener which is partly inspired by the actual pheromones. If the stealth formulas in themselves are good (so far what I have tested is) then those affected will find another opener. They may compliment you on something else or talk about the weather. It can be a number of things. Remember every one is not great at opening. They may feel attraction and still feel nervous but the mones sort of influence them to try so they could just ask a simple question just trying to break the ice. I find when I use any mone really the ratio of silly questions people tend to ask me go’s up. Its really them just trying to detain me and get my attention. The thing I noticed with the stealth mix I tried MX435 (TAA) is a lesser range of distance and sillage but within close proximity its seems to work the same to slightly better then the original at evoking feeling. However there is something missing in the translation of those feelings they get. I agree it does have a mild scent in the bottle, mine did at least. Its very light fresh and pleasant. On the body though it seems to disappear. I cant speak about the FF line because its not in our products but as far as neroli I do cover with a scent sometimes. I wear scents anyways and neroli blends with just about anything without coming across as cloying. > [@](#): > > I’ve gotten compliments and started conversations on cologne alone. I think that scent is an integral part of these products to personalize them for your own body even further. I do think scent is part of what forms the connection in peoples minds. Its like the bridge from just feeling something and feeling something about someone when it comes to pheromone communication. So I would definitely wear a scent with it regardless. Certain scents combined with mones can enhance there affects. Take pink sugar for example. This scent has a power all its own but combined with mones its practically a sure thing. People just gravitate towards you. They want to bask in your scent and in doing so they inhale deeper and more often thus they inhale more mones. They can also subconsciously pinpoint better. Its my opinion there is a reason nature made us give off actual scent. Scent aids in more then just diffusion, sillage and attraction. Its how we pinpoint and track what is stimulating our emotions. For instance take light for example \>\>\>\> We use our sense of sight to pinpoint where light is coming from. We dont consciously think of it though. Turn that light off and how can you pinpoint it. A more crude example. Someone passes gas quietly and usually if the situation was not awkward you could pin point exactly who it was by scent alone. You may feel grossed out, uncomfortable and uneasy or whatever but you pinpoint it to the person who did it and consciously what it is and process it. However if someone passes gas and you dont smell it it could trigger a whole different response. You could feel those feeling but not be able to pinpoint why so you would have to process it without all the pertinent information. The sense of smell is not the sense of smell without scent. Those who lose there sense of smell dont actually lack the ability to smell things. They lack the ability to process that smell which is why they cant connect with others well. There is purpose in scent in my opinion. I feel the stealth products would be a good alternative for those with scent sensitivities or work in environments where they can not wear a scent at all which is a small percentage of users. For me I am going to choose scented or cover the stealth with a scent that produces good sillage and diffusion and niot just evokes emotion but forms that connection to me. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![okyoureabeast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/okyoureabeast/32/1395_2.png) [@okyoureabeast](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/okyoureabeast)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2012, 9:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stealth-diffusion-pros-cons/54198/14 "2012-01-14T21:58:02Z")
@Tisha, Do you think androtics will have an option for stealth diffusion in their pull down menus for products? I like having the option of having a scent last longer vs immediate hit but having the option between the two seems better in my opinion. I like having that immediate hit for testing when I go out to the bars. Take a shower, dry off, spray on the mones, and suit up. The stealth diffusion is great for testing consistency with a 9-5 job. I normally have to reup around 2-3pm since the self effects wear off around then. I’m going to assume the effects on other people aren’t nearly as effective then. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2012, 12:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stealth-diffusion-pros-cons/54198/15 "2012-01-19T12:02:57Z")
> [@okyoureabeast](#): > > @Tisha, > > Do you think androtics will have an option for stealth diffusion in their pull down menus for products? > > I like having the option of having a scent last longer vs immediate hit but having the option between the two seems better in my opinion. > > I like having that immediate hit for testing when I go out to the bars. Take a shower, dry off, spray on the mones, and suit up. > > The stealth diffusion is great for testing consistency with a 9-5 job. I normally have to reup around 2-3pm since the self effects wear off around then. I’m going to assume the effects on other people aren’t nearly as effective then. I dont know. I hope they will this way people will have a choice. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2012, 7:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stealth-diffusion-pros-cons/54198/16 "2012-01-19T19:25:16Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > The sense of smell is not the sense of smell without scent. Those who lose there sense of smell dont actually lack the ability to smell things. They lack the ability to process that smell which is why they cant connect with others well. There is purpose in scent in my opinion. I’ve been told by doctors I can’t smell because I was born without the microscopic hairs in my nose that act as receptors. Its genetic, my father has the same thing. As for connecting with people I’ve made some very intense connections before.. I can definitely tell when I have pheromones on, or things I like from women 😃 My radar works pretty well ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2012, 11:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stealth-diffusion-pros-cons/54198/17 "2012-01-20T11:20:35Z")
I’m sorry I should have been more clear. You were born with this condition so you learned from the start how to process and connect with others using different senses. Much like a blind or deaf person adapts to the world around them. Those who developed this condition later in life for whatever reason find it harder to adapt and therefore have a harder time connecting because they are used to using that sense as part of there process. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stealth-diffusion-pros-cons/54198/18 "2012-01-20T19:33:14Z")
> [@TwistedOstrich](#): > > I’ve been told by doctors I can’t smell because I was born without the microscopic hairs in my nose that act as receptors. Its genetic, my father has the same thing. > > As for connecting with people I’ve made some very intense connections before.. I can definitely tell when I have pheromones on, or things I like from women 😃 My radar works pretty well Holy crap! Did they tell you you’re clinically anosmic? Do you smell _anything_? How long ago was your diagnosis? > [@okyoureabeast](#): > > Do you think androtics will have an option for stealth diffusion in their pull down menus for products? > > I like having the option of having a scent last longer vs immediate hit but having the option between the two seems better in my opinion. > > I like having that immediate hit for testing when I go out to the bars. Take a shower, dry off, spray on the mones, and suit up. > > The stealth diffusion is great for testing consistency with a 9-5 job. I normally have to reup around 2-3pm since the self effects wear off around then. I’m going to assume the effects on other people aren’t nearly as effective then. Yes. Soon. As we test and test and retest. We’re learning more and more about SD every day, and nipping at the heels of including them in customization drop downs. For now, it’d be massively helpful to get SD MXs in the hands of as many testers as possible so we can nail down the tech and provide you with something EXCELLENT. The SDT is too green to give you a REAL, QUALITY offering yet. Best thing at this stage is to test the heck out of the SD’s. They’re all going to have slightly different traits, both psychologically and physically (diffusively speaking). > [@P51Mustang](#): > > While Stealth diffusion works, and I’ve tested it bare without any cologne and the results weren’t as effective as when I did wear a cologne that complemented me. I’ve found that if you find a cologne that suits you, then you should wear it because it complements your body chemistry. > > I’ve gotten compliments and started conversations on cologne alone. I think that scent is an integral part of these products to personalize them for your own body even further. Thanks man. This is exactly it. What SD mixes do you have so far? ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2012, 7:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stealth-diffusion-pros-cons/54198/19 "2012-01-20T19:43:20Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > Holy crap! Did they tell you you’re clinically anosmic? Do you smell _anything_? How long ago was your diagnosis? Yeah its pretty obvious without the need of doctors saying such as when someone lets off a fart that has everyone running me and my dad are left laughing unaffected. Was tested when I was around 6? Since then all my life I’ve had people stuff things in my face and ask can you smell this?? I say nooo… One of the reasons I found this place.. a girl told me she smelled someone that smelt like sex, which made me curious. Then subsequently she stuffed her panties in my face and it was a bit sweet… So yes I pick up on pheromones, and also things in my collection like P95 and others. I’m like a walking science experiment that proves pheromones exist, theres no other explanation on what I’m picking up on. 🙂