# Steve and or Experienced users. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 26, 2011, 7:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steve-and-or-experienced-users/44944 "2011-01-26T07:52:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 7:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steve-and-or-experienced-users/44944/1 "2011-01-26T07:52:54Z")
Whatever happened to mx351? Is it back? Is there a new version? I remember it being the most magical spray I’d ever tried in the 4-5 years I’ve been here. Also is there a spray that has something like [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) with P79 and P74? I remember wearing this mix, writing up a report that got a lot of success. Heard an MX simliar would come out (bet that’s what MX391 is 😉). I haven’t been on here since last May lol. Need a quick update. Thanks guys. ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 4:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steve-and-or-experienced-users/44944/2 "2011-01-26T16:05:22Z")
Mx351 was a re-release of mx327 from the wildflower mx pack. I also enjoyed this one! I think you are right on the [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) part. The mix was 1:1 p74 to beta androstenol or instant honesty, although wildflower could have amended it for release. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 4:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steve-and-or-experienced-users/44944/3 "2011-01-26T16:25:28Z")
> [@examine](#): > > Whatever happened to mx351? Is it back? Is there a new version? I remember it being the most magical spray I’d ever tried in the 4-5 years I’ve been here. > > Also is there a spray that has something like Ammo with P79 and P74? I remember wearing this mix, writing up a report that got a lot of success. Heard an MX simliar would come out (bet that’s what MX391 is 😉). I haven’t been on here since last May lol. Need a quick update. > > Thanks guys. From what I’ve read with what John, the ops manager, wrote down. I couldn’t find the exact post, but if the MX isn’t showing up on the store site anymore, there are no longer any plans to restock them. ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 6:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steve-and-or-experienced-users/44944/4 "2011-01-26T18:39:02Z")
Here is the thread that P was talking about : > **[PheromoneTalk](https://pheromonetalk.com/store-announcements-feedback/whoa-where-did-everything-go-45852.html)** > > Everything about using pheromones to enhance your social life You can even do a search or some reading in the store section about rolling blackouts. The guys will give you further assistance with your mix. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 1:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steve-and-or-experienced-users/44944/5 "2011-01-27T01:30:12Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > From what I’ve read with what John, the ops manager, wrote down. I couldn’t find the exact post, but if the MX isn’t showing up on the store site anymore, there are no longer any plans to restock them. yes I know, but I was wondering if there was a new version of it, seemed like it got great feedback, would be ashamed if they didnt have an alternative. is there a way to get the exact ingredients at least? ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 1:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steve-and-or-experienced-users/44944/6 "2011-01-27T01:32:13Z")
> [@evolver](#): > > Mx351 was a re-release of mx327 from the wildflower mx pack. I also enjoyed this one! I think you are right on the P74 part. The mix was 1:1 p74 to beta androstenol or instant honesty, although wildflower could have amended it for release. Try ammo, p74, p79 - 1:1:1 one of the most potent attention grabbers. ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 5:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steve-and-or-experienced-users/44944/7 "2011-01-31T05:59:21Z")
> [@evolver](#): > > Mx351 was a re-release of mx327 from the wildflower mx pack. yea mx327 was the substitue for mx351, but whats the new substitue for mx351? is there at least a close substitute ? ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 4:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steve-and-or-experienced-users/44944/8 "2011-01-31T16:41:12Z")
It would be easiest to simply make your own mix of P74 and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/). ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 6:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steve-and-or-experienced-users/44944/9 "2011-01-31T18:14:53Z")
> [@examine](#): > > yes I know, but I was wondering if there was a new version of it, seemed like it got great feedback, would be ashamed if they didnt have an alternative. is there a way to get the exact ingredients at least? No, there are times when we have released formulas but its rare. All of our formulas are proprietary and we usually don’t release them because it encourages people to keep testing old formulas (wasting precious resources) instead of trying new things (beneficial to everyone). If you want to use something tried and tested for the rest of your life, use the instant line - please don’t exhaust our putatives/resources spinning wheels in the mud with old MXs and formulas. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Aggie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f07891/32.png) [@Aggie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aggie)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 6:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steve-and-or-experienced-users/44944/10 "2011-01-31T18:30:02Z")
And you have to realize guys, John isn’t saying that to be mean. Although when you read the way he talks on here about old Mx’s it sounds like he is. If it were possible and beneficial for AD to let us keep using the older products, and at the same time achieve their own goals, they would. As it stands that’s not possible anymore. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 6:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steve-and-or-experienced-users/44944/11 "2011-01-31T18:44:48Z")
Can’t move forward if you’re always looking back. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 10:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steve-and-or-experienced-users/44944/12 "2011-01-31T22:09:26Z")
> [@YourDreamsStayBig](#): > > And you have to realize guys, John isn’t saying that to be mean. Although when you read the way he talks on here about old Mx’s it sounds like he is. If it were possible and beneficial for AD to let us keep using the older products, and at the same time achieve their own goals, they would. As it stands that’s not possible anymore. Well I did say ‘please’ lol The putatives are expensive for us to supply and we need new data and new ideas to justify the cost since we aren’t guaranteed cash profit on every custom/MX order. ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2011, 11:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steve-and-or-experienced-users/44944/13 "2011-02-01T23:38:46Z")
> [@evolver](#): > > It would be easiest to simply make your own mix of P74 and Instant Honesty. Oh is that was was in it? didn’t know that, I think I have some [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) lying around. However, if I don’t I would have to buy it, its in stock I believe but… > [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > please don’t exhaust our putatives/resources spinning wheels in the mud with old MXs and formulas. 😛 whoops lol ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2011, 4:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steve-and-or-experienced-users/44944/14 "2011-02-02T04:45:08Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > Well I did say ‘please’ lol > > The putatives are expensive for us to supply and we need new data and new ideas to justify the cost since we aren’t guaranteed cash profit on every custom/MX order. We’ll keep mixing everything available (and in our stockpiles) in as many different combinations as we can. ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2011, 4:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steve-and-or-experienced-users/44944/15 "2011-02-02T04:46:22Z")
> [@examine](#): > > Oh is that was was in it? didn’t know that, I think I have some P74 lying around. > However, if I don’t I would have to buy it, its in stock I believe but… Yep, that’s what Wildflower said it was back in the day. I remember posting in your first thread about it as well, telling you the formula. I was really surprised by your results, as you reported sexual effects if I recall…