# SteveO put the S back into Sexi... **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 3, 2009, 12:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steveo-put-the-s-back-into-sexi/29512 "2009-06-03T00:02:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steveo-put-the-s-back-into-sexi/29512/181 "2009-06-09T20:59:02Z")
> [@](#): > > this should be less about begging personalities to stay > and more about what we can do to encourage the fun atmosphere we once had , IMO. I really dont see how having a goodbye thread is ugly or negative. I never said one negative thing in it. Its ok though I agree let the forum get back to testing and normal activity. I said my goodbye and those who wanted to say goodbye to me did. I deleted the post, I just didnt feel I could go without saying goodbye. > [@](#): > > how can conflict dissipate if we keep it alive and breathing? > negative _is_ as negative _does_. I really cant function here. Seems I am the only one that cant have a opinion and when I do I am told I am negative which is the farthest thing from the truth there is. Hell according to a blog I read I may even be evil and should slither away on my belly. Who knew LOL OH well. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 9:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steveo-put-the-s-back-into-sexi/29512/182 "2009-06-09T21:09:50Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > I really dont see how having a goodbye thread is ugly or negative. I never said one negative thing in it. Its ok though I agree let the forum get back to testing and normal activity. I said my goodbye and those who wanted to say goodbye to me did. I deleted the post, I just didnt feel I could go without saying goodbye. > > I really cant function here. Seems I am the only one that cant have a opinion and when I do I am told I am negative which is the farthest thing from the truth there is. Hell according to a blog I read I may even be evil and should slither away on my belly. Who knew LOL OH well. > > Tisha nothing _there_ is ugly or negative. at all. who said that it was? certainly not me, i made it a point to post about you staying on in that thread! šŸ™‚ remember? everyone can have an opinion and i dont think you are being singled out for anything in particular except for all the _positive_ remarks on this board. they far outweigh the negative. but it doesnt seem you acknowledge that. they love you, only they cant say it _enough._ _one bad shouldnt cancel-out a million good._ _its all mostly good._ ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 9:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steveo-put-the-s-back-into-sexi/29512/183 "2009-06-09T21:22:24Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > I really dont see how having a goodbye thread is ugly or negative. I never said one negative thing in it. Its ok though I agree let the forum get back to testing and normal activity. I said my goodbye and those who wanted to say goodbye to me did. I deleted the post, I just didnt feel I could go without saying goodbye. Iā€™m not sure goodbye is all that ugly, either. Everyone needs a break. Most people leave one another or one group every now and then. Some breaks are temporarily, some are long term. Sometimes people just need to unplug even from the best situations, not just the worst. Even daily unplugs, have this sort of miraculous effect on the mind. Thatā€™s why some folks have some of the best ideas in the shower. > [@](#): > > I really cant function here. Seems I am the only one that cant have a opinion and when I do I am told I am negative which is the farthest thing from the truth there is. > > Tisha I like all of your well considered feedback. I havenā€™t seen all of your posts, but it certainly seems you are trying to be constructive. I know you were especially constructive with Jasmin, where it seems your true intent is clear. Sheā€™s said youā€™ve been nothing less than wonderful. Very helpful. Thank you, Tisha! > [@](#): > > Hell according to a blog I read I may even be evil and should slither away on my belly. Who knew LOL OH well. Iā€™m having trouble with a lot of these posts (not just from you, mind you) being vague, and assuming too much pre-knowledge. I think too much while I read to read everything (i.e., I read kinda slowly), so if you could, please be specific. Which blog post is this? ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 9:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steveo-put-the-s-back-into-sexi/29512/184 "2009-06-09T21:35:59Z")
PM inbound, MHarris. ---
**Author:** ![busybee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/busybee/32/1871_2.png) [@busybee](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/busybee)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 9:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steveo-put-the-s-back-into-sexi/29512/185 "2009-06-09T21:46:37Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > Thatā€™s why some folks have some of the best ideas in the shower. > ? -For me it in the car or on a smoke breakā€¦ -Bee ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 10:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steveo-put-the-s-back-into-sexi/29512/186 "2009-06-09T22:35:45Z")
> [@diamond](#): > > Gotta second Tish on this one, the socials, including IFM and IH worked like a dream on my wife, UNTIL I told her about them and introduced her to a few of the consumer line and a couple of MXs. She stopped reacting to my signature and instead, got reactions at work, enough said ā˜¹ > > Although the ā€˜live and uncensoredā€™ tag went a while ago, I donā€™t think anyone can argue with the point that this is the most open forum in this industry, sure there are problems and I, for one, have been frustrated on occasions. Letā€™s find some middle ground, hopefully weā€™ll get the forum split soon which may allow for more open discussion between AD and the seasoned users whilst providing some further degree of industrial security for AD. > > As for cops, I am prepared to make the sacrifice and collect as many pairs of panties as I can to further the cause, I would have thought that mid to late 20s would be the best hunting ground?šŸ˜› Hi Diamond. Iā€™m back from surgery - a little sore, but doing okay. I just wanted to say, Iā€™m sorry to hear about your wife. I hadnā€™t heard. I hope you are doing okay. And then I want to add - Iā€™ve never hidden the fact that I am testing pheromones from my husband. He has known from the first. I never tell him exactly what Iā€™m wearing or when I am pheromone free (so as to not influence the testing), but he knows I wear them. He always responds to them when I wear them, as you can tell from my reports. That hasnā€™t changed at. He is a responder. Opinions are valid, as is every single experience, but one point does not a trend make. And other factors have to be ruled out before you can certainly say that one thing or another is the reason why something happens. That is why repeat testing is always important. And why controlling as much as possible for other factors is important. And why every supposition, even those based on ā€œcommon knowledgeā€ needs to be put to the test. Diane ---
**Author:** ![busybee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/busybee/32/1871_2.png) [@busybee](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/busybee)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 11:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steveo-put-the-s-back-into-sexi/29512/187 "2009-06-09T23:01:55Z")
You know, on this note Diane, is there a placebo niroli scented cologne available? The wife knows Iā€™m wearing pheros when she smells niroliā€¦ -Bee ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 11:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steveo-put-the-s-back-into-sexi/29512/188 "2009-06-09T23:16:53Z")
> [@busybee](#): > > You know, on this note Diane, is there a placebo niroli scented cologne available? The wife knows Iā€™m wearing pheros when she smells niroliā€¦ > > -Bee The best way to find that out would be to contact the Smartmones store through their system. ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 11:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steveo-put-the-s-back-into-sexi/29512/189 "2009-06-09T23:20:42Z")
Ok everyone: So we can actually put an end to any negativityā€¦ letā€™s just get the remainder of it out. Let me re-animate a concept we tried years back, near the beginning of the forum. ('05?) A few months after the forum began, I placed a post in the Store forum that asked the simple question ā€œWhat are we doing wrong?ā€ For reasons I still donā€™t fully understand in my way of thinking, this incited massive amounts of controversy. A wonderful user at the name who went by the moniker Rbt was especially adamant about how wrong it is to ask what are we doing wrong, if we werenā€™t ā€“ to our knowledge ā€“ actually doing anything wrong. He was just trying to be helpful, but boy, were people fumed at us to ask this when things were right. It was so surprising, that the experience really left an impression on my memory cells. The intention of that post was to _pre-emptively_ discover any little things we were doing wrong early, so these things didnā€™t ignite into a fire later on. I wanted to be pre-emptively good, basically. It was also intended to achieve something I really love doing ā€“ making the GOOD, even BETTER. Sort of like waxing a really nice car, upgrading your lightbulbs to something more healthy & full spectrum, or being especially nice to someone you already love. Sure, I guess this sort of pre-emptiveness might sound crazy to some, but if you think about it itā€™s the exact thing youā€™re taught in popular organizations such as the Boy Scouts. I grew up rather poor, so I didnā€™t have never had enough money at that time in my life to make it all the way to Eagle Scout, but I still admire and try to live their modus operandi to ā€œBe prepared!ā€ To pre-emptively anticipate and solve any possible problems, and to to be on the case fixing them as soon as they do occur. To understand that Murphyā€™s law is merely a warning that allows you to be a more effective person or organization, and not a fate to which you are doomed. Anyway, now that there actually ARE problems it would seem, I figure this might be a great time to ask once more: **ā€œWhat are we doing wrong?ā€** Unlike last time, I wonā€™t ask you to air anything publicly (I think that was ultimately Rbtā€™s point ā€“ that I shouldnā€™t have asked for people to respond to the thread itself). Just give me a quick pm. Nothing fancy. In fact, the more to the point and factual (with actual examples, quotes, links, etc. ā€“ concrete things) the better. Doesnā€™t matter whoā€™s involved in something, Jasmin (and yes, please mention anything you mightā€™ve said to Jasmin on the recent calls since sheā€™s sometimes too positive to remember to tell me certain things), Steve, Amy, Jacob, whomever. I realize that each person has their own strengths and weaknesses, and accurately identifying those lets us all work better. Even if you have complaints about me, thatā€™s fine. Iā€™m a big boy, I can take it! I expect everyone here to be able to take it, too. We all live a limited amount of time, I understand that accurate feedback truly is a growth opportunity. This is not just psychobabble. Truly good, well intended feedback is something that does allow you to be all that you can be, in the limited time you are here on this planet. _Constructive_ criticism allows us to be helpful mirrors for one another, so we can make life better for everyone, as quickly and efficiently as possible. So, if you would be so kind, just let me know anything weā€™ve done wrong from now since the last time we asked. Recent tends to be better, but there could still be things from the past that are relevent. I tend to stay more on the invention side of things, and honestly, my work requires a certain degree of detachment from the day to day, or thereā€™d never be any progress. The downside is that there may be certain things Iā€™m not even aware of. Having read this post, I think there may be certain issues or actions that would valuable to be made aware of. Whether itā€™s behavior or activities that donā€™t gel well with our culture or standards (I hope you guys can understand what my standards are from my posts through the years ā€“ something of a cross between Ayn Rand, Richard Feynman, ā€œTrader Joeā€, Joe Sugarman, Thomas Edison, Thomas Payne, Google and Apple, all mixed up then topped with a dash of maybe Richard Bach), or even just the type of bubble wrap we use, Iā€™m ready to tackle just about any problem you throw at me. As sure as I can drive from New York to Detroit in one fell swoop, in one piece, I can take us from nearly anywhere now to anywhere else. Iā€™ve just got to know _where we are now_ and perhaps some of where weā€™ve been that I might not have noticed. šŸ˜‰ As the song goes, if you would be so kind, let me know what condition our condition is in. Thanks, guys. I appreciate your help! šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 11:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steveo-put-the-s-back-into-sexi/29512/190 "2009-06-09T23:21:56Z")
> [@busybee](#): > > You know, on this note Diane, is there a placebo niroli scented cologne available? The wife knows Iā€™m wearing pheros when she smells niroliā€¦ > > -Bee Yes! Actually there is. You can buy neroli essential oil from any place that sells incense or lotion supplies. Just plug essential oil into google and youā€™ll find a ton of places you can buy neroli. All my pheromones are unscented because I have an asthmatic reaction to neroli, but I wear my cover fragrance all the time whether Iā€™m wearing pheromones or not. Diane ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 11:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steveo-put-the-s-back-into-sexi/29512/191 "2009-06-09T23:28:28Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > Anyway, now that there actually ARE problems it would seem, I figure this might be a great time to ask once more: > > **ā€œWhat are we doing wrong?ā€** > > Unlike last time, I wonā€™t ask you to air anything publicly (I think that was ultimately Rbtā€™s point ā€“ that I shouldnā€™t have asked for people to respond to the thread itself). Just give me a quick pm. Nothing fancy. In fact, the more to the point and factual (with actual examples, quotes, links, etc. ā€“ concrete things) the better. > > Thanks, guys. I appreciate your help! šŸ™‚ Iā€™ll work on this - short and sweet. šŸ˜› Diane ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 11:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steveo-put-the-s-back-into-sexi/29512/192 "2009-06-09T23:46:41Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > Yes! Actually there is. You can buy neroli essential oil from any place that sells incense or lotion supplies. Just plug essential oil into google and youā€™ll find a ton of places you can buy neroli. > > All my pheromones are unscented because I have an ashtsmatic reaction to neroli, but I wear my cover fragrance all the time whether Iā€™m wearing pheromones or not. > > Diane For an actual split test that reduces variables and maximizes constants, Iā€™d use the same exact one we use. We donā€™t have anything like that in our cart, but we can definitely provide that if you call in. (and heck, the more I think about it, the more we should add it to the art, as well) Also, Diane, so wowā€¦ youā€™ve tried both EO [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) and our own, same reaction? ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 11:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steveo-put-the-s-back-into-sexi/29512/193 "2009-06-09T23:58:40Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > For an actual split test that reduces variables and maximizes constants, Iā€™d use the same exact one we use. We donā€™t have anything like that in our cart, but we can definitely provide that if you call in. (and heck, the more I think about it, the more we should add it to the art, as well) > > Also, Diane, so wowā€¦ youā€™ve tried both EO Neroli and our own, same reaction? Yes. It is neroli itself that Iā€™m allergic to. Most flower and bloom based essential oils and most colognes and perfumes that contain floral notes give me horrendous asthma attacks. Diane ---
**Author:** ![OoohYahhh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ooohyahhh/32/1274_2.png) [@OoohYahhh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OoohYahhh)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 12:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steveo-put-the-s-back-into-sexi/29512/194 "2009-06-10T00:06:00Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > You are exactly right, and I thought much about this approach to life. > ā€¦ > What is important is to issue simple alerts to those who can take action, have them take action, and continue on the positive right. It is for us to notice and fix the negative, but not to dwell on the negative. In fact, we tend to _live_ in the positive, regardless of what our _minds_ tend to _dwell_ upon. > > Despite the fact that so many people fear criminals on a daily basis, and tell me to believe the same, when I look at reality things are much better. For example, nobody has killed or robbed me today, despite the supposed ā€œprevalenceā€ of crime. I am not dying of either cancer or heart disease today (not that I know, anyway). Despite ā€œrampant pollutionā€, both the trees and grass are green. Much greener than not green, anyway. šŸ™‚ In this supposedly doomed world, even the birds continue to chirp, despite the fact that birds were used as early indicator systems by coal miners (i.e., theyā€™re so chemical sensitive, theyā€™d die easily if an area was toxic enough). To this day, bird owners must be intensely cautious of anything birds are fed or exposed to. Yet I see more flying around, having a jolly time, than I see them raining out of the sky dead. > > We see the ā€œbadā€ so easily, because it contrasts highly to the nearly infinite amount of good. Due to the way our brainā€™s reticular activating system works, ā€œbadā€ sticks out like a neon purple bar sign in the midst of an otherwise green forest. Itā€™s the odd man out, which is why itā€™s so noticeable. Yet the world or life at large is not really as bad as weā€™re sometimes led to believe, with our quick & easy mental summaries/generalizations that we often make (ā€œpeople are badā€, ā€œcars are badā€), is it? > > In part, thatā€™s due to people making reasonable and responsible actions against both current and possible future negative scenarios to enact long term solutions. Just like a non-mercury contaminated vaccine (or perhaps homeopathy with their little microdoses of poison), there is often much good that can come out of recognizing and acting against just a little bad. > > We probably have many users here who still remember [Jonas Salk](http://www.achievement.org/autodoc/page/sal0bio-1) first hand, or have read about him. Heā€™s a stand out example of a man who not only had a positive response to the bad, but whoā€™s solution itself was made to harness our bodyā€™s own amazingly positive responses that can come from identifying and responding to some bad. Programmers or certain engineers might say that his positive response was ā€œrecursiveā€ in nature. > > Again, I agree with youā€¦ just had to interject with the beauty of seeing and _acting upon_ the ugly from to time. > ā€¦ How do you do that? Reading you is like seeing in the dark. In order to see something clearly in the dark, one should never look directly at it. You somehow hit the target without seeming to aim at it. The chuckles are a bonus. Or is the image of dead birds raining out of the sky not really all that funny? (Admit it. You laughed when you read it the first time.) OoohYahhh ---
**Author:** ![Domnk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/domnk/32/2269_2.png) [@Domnk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Domnk)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 12:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steveo-put-the-s-back-into-sexi/29512/195 "2009-06-10T00:13:59Z")
> [@busybee](#): > > You know, on this note Diane, is there a placebo niroli scented cologne available? The wife knows Iā€™m wearing pheros when she smells niroliā€¦ > > -Bee Just like to mention, that you can order neroli scented, light or cologne-strength, perfumers alcohol in the SmartMones store in the _Mixing Supplies_ section. In the 30ml bottles. ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 12:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steveo-put-the-s-back-into-sexi/29512/196 "2009-06-10T00:50:49Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > i though copulins werent technically not a pheromone? > šŸ˜• > > i would love to know where the idea that this is purely a scientific approach came from? > > i didnt see evidence of this. > šŸ˜• > > i can see though that refusing to be overly emotional on the forum may translate that way, > but then Diane was never someone to draw attention to herself being emotional šŸ˜ƒ > > in any event, > i think her unique perspective is whats going to get us out of the copulin rut, > that trucking along the same old path never gives you different scenery. > > i welcome change. > > stuff evolves, and that isnt always comfortable. > > in the meantime, > giving support, equally to everyone in this endeavor, is what will bring this forward the fastest IMO. > > then again, my opinions have been affiliated with talk of koolaid. > so dont mind me šŸ˜ƒ This makes me chuckleā€¦ Iā€™m not unemotional. I just donā€™t flame out. Beakers and labcoatsā€¦ hehā€¦ I wish it were just that simple. Iā€™ve learned a lot in this endeavor, Iā€™m still learning, still researching, still developing, still stretching my mind to encompass as much real information that I can, to formulate a better picture of what is actually needed in this, and to produce something better. I wonā€™t base what Iā€™m doing on what some other company has formulated. My whole initial premise was that copulins, as produced by women, are unique to women in their ratios, in their cycle dependent consistency, in their concentration. And unlike [pheromone molecules](https://pheromonelabs.com/), concentration does matter very much, because these elements, the fatty acids, smell so very different depending on how much is there, and their ratios one to another. More is definitely not better, and there is a fine range of what smells good and what is horrendously gag inducing with regard to these elements. And others are working on analogs, working towards replicating the smells without resorting to what Iā€™m doing (which is very much dependent on initial conditions). More power to them and I hope everyone working on this does well. But my project is attempting to recreate 100% natural copulins - to replicate what is produced naturally in women, to smell like clean, healthy, sexy women. Natural womenā€™s smell is like a slice of heaven, and I donā€™t think we should have to put on something that makes us smell like an unwashed ass, or a cheese factory, or puke, or dog shit, or any of the other formulations that weā€™ve been asked to ā€œwork with.ā€ We deserve better. Diane ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 12:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steveo-put-the-s-back-into-sexi/29512/197 "2009-06-10T00:57:30Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > This makes me chuckleā€¦ Iā€™m not unemotional. I just donā€™t flame out. > > Beakers and labcoatsā€¦ hehā€¦ I wish it were just that simple. Iā€™ve learned a lot in this endeavor, Iā€™m still learning, still researching, still developing, still stretching my mind to encompass as much real information that I can, to formulate a better picture of what is actually needed in this, and to produce something better. > > I wonā€™t base what Iā€™m doing on what some other company has formulated. My whole initial premise was that copulins, as produced by women, are unique to women in their ratios, in their cycle dependent consistency, in their concentration. And unlike pheromone molecules, concentration does matter very much, because these elements, the fatty acids, smell so very different depending on how much is there, and their ratios one to another. More is definitely not better, and there is a fine range of what smells good and what is horrendously gag inducing with regard to these elements. > > And others are working on analogs, working towards replicating the smells without resorting to what Iā€™m doing (which is very much dependent on initial conditions). More power to them and I hope everyone working on this does well. > > But my project is attempting to recreate 100% natural copulins - to replicate what is produced naturally in women, to smell like clean, healthy, sexy women. Natural womenā€™s smell is like a slice of heaven, and I donā€™t think we should have to put on something that makes us smell like an unwashed ass, or a cheese factory, or puke, or dog shit, or any of the other formulations that weā€™ve been asked to ā€œwork with.ā€ > > We deserve better. > > Diane **SQUEAL** this THIS is what i want to give energy to !!! ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 10:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steveo-put-the-s-back-into-sexi/29512/198 "2009-06-14T22:03:45Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > The Consumer Products are also subject to change. Case in point is A314. Originally, it was formulated with 8 pheromones. It has been tweaked again and again both with formulation and scent. Today it has 16 pheromones I believe. We can label that practice as anything you want to label it. But the fact is, **Androtics is the one who is investing all their effort and money and creative energy into formulations, not you, not me. And they can formulate any way they please.** Other than the original A314 formula, which was sold, Androtics has yet to do a full commercial launch of any product. Until then they are _all_ still in development. Thatā€™s where you are wrong. Actually, youā€™ve been wrong on a lot of things, but weā€™re human, it happens. **We** are spending **Our** money to buy these consumer products. And **we** are using **our** energy to test something we have been assured will work. In a way we are apart of the company because we are testing and reporting for their benefit. I spend my hard earned money to buy products that have been guaranteed to me to work. I havenā€™t had a problem with a consumer product yet, but if there is a problem than Androtics needs to fix it if they want to keep their reputation (and their customers). Much love to Androtics. I love your stuff. Please donā€™t let me down. ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 10:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steveo-put-the-s-back-into-sexi/29512/199 "2009-06-14T22:19:07Z")
Wow, you are a little late to this party, arenā€™t you? It is resolved. Get over it. Diane ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 10:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steveo-put-the-s-back-into-sexi/29512/200 "2009-06-14T22:43:09Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > Wow, you are a little late to this party, arenā€™t you? > > It is resolved. Get over it. > > Diane Donā€™t take your anger out on me. Iā€™m simply stating the obvious. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steveo-put-the-s-back-into-sexi/29512.md?page=9) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steveo-put-the-s-back-into-sexi/29512.md?page=11)