# SteveO put the S back into Sexi... **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 3, 2009, 12:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steveo-put-the-s-back-into-sexi/29512 "2009-06-03T00:02:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 133
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 7:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steveo-put-the-s-back-into-sexi/29512/133 "2009-06-08T07:23:04Z")
> [@Sillykitty](#): > > Its not so much about the copulin issue, its about communication. This all began (as far as I understand), because: > > 1. A couple months ago, it was discovered that the Instant Sexiness formulas changed to no cops without informing us. It was not the fact that it had no cops, we are quite capable and resourceful at dealing with that. It was the fact that we were not informed of the change in formula. And were continuing to purchase and recommend something that was not what we thought it was. I’m sorry, I thought I was very clear about this in my previous posts. Let me re-iterate to make to make sure everyone understands fully. It was a couple _years_ ago it lost it’s cops, not a couple months ago. You guys might be thinking one of the MXs which had to receive a new #. Instant Sexiness had cops added and then lost them again back when we were more phone oriented w/Jasmin on the lines. The forum was active, not as active as it is today, and we always encouraged people to call for the final word about anything since we tended create much better relationships and get much more relevent feedback when heavy phone contact was involved. (same reason we invited people to come out and test in LA) This was a great arrangement since Jasmin was both highly social, and scientific minded enough to pinpoint what was necessary for our next experiments. Sure, she’s not quite Richard Feynman, but everyone had a nice time, and I got we got great feedback, too. Anyway, hundreds of people were told on the phone over months that we were running too low on copulins. As I mentioned in one of my previous posts, so many people were told, I wondered why we just didn’t run a superbowl ad. (of course, this is just a cute thinto to say – in reality, a superbowl ad has far too much reach, would reach the wrong people and is prohibitively expensive) That’s why some people clearly remember being told. They’ve been around awhile. And again, Instant Sexiness was never a copulin product and should not be considered by anyone as a copulin product. It is primarily a [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/), specifically a TAH and TAL based product first and foremost, along with accessory pheromones. Copulins were simply a bonus for a limited amount of time somewhere in 2006, when when had enough to add them. Copulins were a huge trend then, and we got so many custom ($$) requests to add them, that we just made it a standard freebie for awhile while we had supplies. It was nice thing for both parties involved. It was one less custom for us to batch, and the people who received it saved some money. v1.0 contained no copulins, v1.1 did in '06 and maybe part of '07, and 1.2, which has been around for the last several years, returned the formula to what it was basically was with 1.0 again. The nature of the product didn’t change, the core formula never changed, but rather, the bonus was simply removed when we were no longer able to provide it. If you check [smartmones.com](http://smartmones.com) and even run [archive.org](http://archive.org) on it (which lets you see into the past), you’ll see that Instant Sexiness was never advertised, even once, as having copulins. Again, it was never advertised as containing copulins. It is not a copulin product, was not a copulin product, and should not be considered as such. The power of mix A relies mostly on TAL, the power of mix B mostly on TAH. The true copulin dependent products, Lust After Me v1.0 and Dirty were removed from the market when we no made when longer had enough copulins to make them. If we had considered Instant Sexiness a copulin catogory product, we would’ve disconnected it when our stock ran out, as well. To recap the history, Lust After Me v1.0 was simply our own inhouse replacement for Primal Instinct, so it was just a higher grade androstenol along with copulins, a different diffusion system, and dosing. Like Primal Instinct with better ingredients and other little upgrades. Lust After Me v1.1 or v2.0 may not have them again, since we’ll likely use a much more complex formulation instead of merely acting as a Primal Instinct alternative. However, it would make no sense if future versions of Dirty didn’t have them. The whole premise of Dirty is it’s pheromones “dirtied” with the scent of sex. Ultimately, I would summarize the glitch (minus any accidental teasing or inappropriate comments by Steve) as being a time glitch. Steve came in at a time when Instant Sexiness no longer had copulins. The fully qualified statement would’ve been something like “Instant Sexiness has never had copulins while I’ve been here.” This incompleteness in the “changing of guard”, you could say, could’ve been handled by an online “changelog” similar to the ones programmers use at sites like [Sourceforge.com](http://Sourceforge.com). At the time, I would’ve had no way to set one of these up in a time efficient manner or even know where to start, since that’s not really my expertise. Luckily, in the past year or so the creators of this forum have released a commercial add on that adds something like that capability to the forum itself. Bad timing for 06/07, good timing in 09 for this type of thing. > [@](#): > > 1. At the same time that the women were waiting with baited breath for both cops back in the things that had them before, as well as new products hopefully, Steve made an unfortunate blunder that was misunderstood as “the women finally getting their needs met”. It was misconstrued as a cruel tease, unfortunately. > > The results: Tisha became disgusted with what she perceived as the management bs-ing the people, and did not feel that she could honorably represent a company that “talked the talk” of straightforwardness, but didn’t “walk the walk”. > > If all of this is just misunderstanding, and human error in not communicating the sudden absence of cops in the women’s products due to too little staff with too many responsibilities, then what’s the problem? > > And why isn’t anything being done to try to get Tisha to return? She loves this company and this forum, with her heart and soul. Its not just about free pheros for her, I know this and so do you. You had a professional forum moderator who just happened to have nine years of phero experience who gave her time and her love for practically nothing. How awesome is that? How lucky we were! > > She was an integral and invaluable part of this company and this community, and I truly believe that she would seriously consider coming back if anybody bothered to give her a simple explanation and a simple apology. > > How hard is that? She’s a lovely lady, you’re right. She was one of the few women participants we’ve ever had that was willing to try new molecules and off the wall mixes (not the only one, I’m just saying one of the few). We did give her a call (or Jasmin did rather), and will stay in contact with her. Everyone needs a break every now and then. We’ll certaintly be here for her in the meantime if she needs anything. Please keep in mind that she was a stipened (stipened in kind; i.e., product) forum volunteer. Most of the helpers you see on most forums receive absolutely nothing. The difference between Tisha and most volunteers at many forums is that she was far above and beyond what we would ever ask of anyone as a forum volunteer in terms of time, commitment and quantity of people assisted, all really without being asked. She is truly an amazing self-managing overproducer. I’ve been trying to figure out some way to extend some further thanks to her for her effort here. Something she’d really like and not expect. _hint, hint_ (ideas appreciated!) --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steveo-put-the-s-back-into-sexi/29512)._