# Still havent noticed anything **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 19, 2009, 1:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-havent-noticed-anything/25058 "2009-01-19T01:45:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![drewzx3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@drewzx3](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/drewzx3)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 1:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-havent-noticed-anything/25058/1 "2009-01-19T01:45:03Z")
I have instant shine instant openness and ammunition first of all for my first order and also instant female magic but havent really used it.The first week I tried instant shine byitself and worked my way up to 4x and didnt notice anything.2nd week Did the same with the openness and same result 3rd week tried the ammo and just went up to 3x for it.4th week 2x ammo 2x IO and 2x shine and still havent noticed anything different.These were all just used in random public places and bars. Where should I go from here? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 1:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-havent-noticed-anything/25058/2 "2009-01-19T01:51:43Z")
> [@drewzx3](#): > > I have instant shine instant openness and ammunition first of all for my first order and also instant female magic but havent really used it.The first week I tried instant shine byitself and worked my way up to 4x and didnt notice anything.2nd week Did the same with the openness and same result 3rd week tried the ammo and just went up to 3x for it.4th week 2x ammo 2x IO and 2x shine and still havent noticed anything different.These were all just used in random public places and bars. Where should I go from here? Hmm… from the levels that you’ve reached with them, you should have had some reactions by now. Are you judging reactions of your own, or how people react to you? My advice would be to stop using [pheromones](https://a314.com/) for a week or two and REALLY REALLY observe how people react to you by yourself. Don’t just daydream through the day, actually stop and think… how many times do people make eye contact with me? How often do people come up and initiate conversation with me? When i initiate conversation, what kind of reaction do they have? Chatty? Short and to the point? Those kind of things. At this point, start back up with your products and judge against what you just observed. I believe you’ll notice a difference from the people around you then. Also, it never hurts to give the Androtics support line a call. Steve would be happy to discuss with you the best ways to notice hits, how to interact better with people, the best products for different situations… it would be very beneficial before starting back up with them. But that’s just my two cents. ---
**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 2:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-havent-noticed-anything/25058/3 "2009-01-19T02:13:21Z")
had some stuff typed out but mr. feel good got the meat of it so i’m starting this post over with some new stuff. _the hits are there, you just have to see them._ basically what feel good said. watch how people react without pheros and then take careful note of how they react with pheros. **hits can be subtle**. a girl who usually sits facing away from you that now sits facing you is a hit. if you just pay attention to the fact that she never talked to you and still isn’t talking to you, you’ve missed the hit. _the hits are there, you just have to work for them_. pretend you have shine and openness on, and you sit in a corner and don’t talk to anybody. you could put on a gallon of pheros and still nothing would happen. you have to be who your pheros say you are. with pheros like shine and openness, you want to be the talkative and confident guy. with pheros like ammo and ifm, you want to approach girls or at least keep them close if they come to you. _location, location, location._ are you jumping from spot to spot or always testing in the same few spots? for example, if you visit a new bar every night, that will be 7 different bartenders all receiving different phero sigs. maybe your sweet spot is on the third night but you won’t know it because there hasn’t been enough exposure time. if you go to the same bar for a week, that will be one bartender receiving 7 different doses of the same phero sig. by doing this you can see where your sweet spot is. don’t give up; there’s a wealth of experts here who can help you out. the most important thing to remember is that in this field, it’s 90% you, 10% pheros. ---
**Author:** ![drewzx3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@drewzx3](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/drewzx3)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 2:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-havent-noticed-anything/25058/4 "2009-01-19T02:15:52Z")
thanks guys im going to quit for a little while and see what happens ---
**Author:** ![5alphareductase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/54ee81/32.png) [@5alphareductase](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/5alphareductase)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 2:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-havent-noticed-anything/25058/5 "2009-01-19T02:55:59Z")
> [@drewzx3](#): > > thanks guys im going to quit for a little while and see what happens it took me a month of consistent use before i started to really notice the power of pheromones. you need to be very observant of other people when wearing then because hits can be very subtle as stated before. even though i wasn’t being attacked by women, i kept on trucking and taking notes on even the most subtle of hits. so just be patient, sit back and observe. eventually you will get a hit that is just too obvious to ignore and that will be the moment when you become obsessed with pheromones. good luck and posts any experiences you have.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![drewzx3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@drewzx3](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/drewzx3)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 4:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-havent-noticed-anything/25058/6 "2009-01-22T04:31:35Z")
Is there a certain one that will prove to me that these work? ---
**Author:** ![5alphareductase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/54ee81/32.png) [@5alphareductase](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/5alphareductase)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 4:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-havent-noticed-anything/25058/7 "2009-01-22T04:41:09Z")
> [@drewzx3](#): > > Is there a certain one that will prove to me that these work? try instant jerk or better yet, apply 5 sprays of TUTH just to OD on purpose. people may be very aggressive towards you with that much TUTH and in a negative way, but at least you will be able to see the pheromones working. also, maybe you can try applying to your clothes instead of your skin because maybe the bacteria on your skin is degrading the pheromones too quickly. ---
**Author:** ![magicj76](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/magicj76/32/1858_2.png) [@magicj76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/magicj76)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 10:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-havent-noticed-anything/25058/8 "2009-01-22T10:36:30Z")
if you want obvious hits, use Turn Up The Heat, 3 sprays at least. You might not get the reults you’re looking for, but you’ll get results ! 🙂 Or 5-6 drops of A314 ! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 11:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-havent-noticed-anything/25058/9 "2009-01-22T11:23:29Z")
MFG gave you some good advice. Everyone’s social awareness levels are different. Some pick up on it faster and easier then others do. Keep in mind the hit posts you read in here are not daily events. We tend to post our big ones and skip over the daily subtle changes. Big hits are fun but its those subtle changes that are most valuable to the mone user. They are consistent and reliable, they improve the quality of life. I work with alot of new people who say, I didnt see anything except people being nicer or girls noticing me more. I have to smile because thats it, that is everything. Mones open the door to socialization and interaction. Its what you do once that door is open that makes the difference. Dont wait for your mones to work, work your mones. So as MFG said, take a week off and really take a look at people. Most of us dont do that. When is the last time someone said to you. "how are you today ? " and expected a real anwser. On a side note when someone asks me that I will deliberately tell them the full answer. It always throws them for a loop because they just expect you to say “fine, and you ?” So dont just look at people, see them. Now go back to testing and start with one product and play with it in different dosages, environments and application points. Keep track of it because if you do run into trouble we can help you better if you have this information. Apply your mones and go about your day and at the end of the day record anything that could have been a possible hit. After doing this a pattern should emerge. hang in there you will get it. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![drewzx3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@drewzx3](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/drewzx3)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 12:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-havent-noticed-anything/25058/10 "2009-01-23T00:11:58Z")
Well I ordered some instant jerk today so I will give it a try when it comes in. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 3:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-havent-noticed-anything/25058/11 "2009-01-23T03:03:22Z")
> [@](#): > > These were all just used in random public places and bars. Not my first choices for testing… First you want a setting in which you have a reasonable baseline of comparison. “Random public places and bars” don’t do well as you have no baseline. A fairly consistent and controlled environment is extremely desirable for testing. Public places range from wide open spaces to crowded hellholes. Repeated testing in a small office or car is ideal. Why? You know the mones get up their nose. Also, you don’t know anybody in public places and have little close interaction. In contrast, causal acquaintances are among the best test subjects. With causal acquaintances you would know if wore IO and they were more talkative than usual. And you could repeat the test to confirm. With a stranger how the hell do you know how talkative they normally are? Of course you’ll never see them again… Finally, you need to be in close proximity to your targets. Someone 25 feet away in a crowded public place ain’t gonna notice you unless you wave at them or do handstands. Close, familiar and repeatable situations like choir practice, an office or dance class are much better situations to observe mone effects compared to “random public places” like shopping malls and sidewalks. ---
**Author:** ![jojoenglish85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/58f4c7/32.png) [@jojoenglish85](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jojoenglish85)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 11:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-havent-noticed-anything/25058/12 "2009-02-09T23:05:41Z")
well an easy misconception about pheremones that most people have when they first try them/it is, its a miracle potion that makes females jump your bones with little to no effort at all. This is false, you have to work hard at getting the attention that you want. If you see a girl and you got the pheros workin, then spit some game, have a talk, be social and she will pick up on that, sub-contiously she will start to zone in on the pheros and then shes hooked if you have the rights opener and can hold her attention long enough to become interested.