# Still waiting to notice the real effects **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 16, 2013, 12:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-waiting-to-notice-the-real-effects/60235 "2013-10-16T12:11:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![raj880](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a5b964/32.png) [@raj880](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/raj880)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2013, 12:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-waiting-to-notice-the-real-effects/60235/1 "2013-10-16T12:11:36Z")
All right so I was ?ber-excited for recieving my order (killer kit, ammo and got a P130 free along with the order). So far I haven’t felt any self-effects while using some of the combinations mentioned in various journals. Is it that the [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) start showing results after few days of consumption ? Im not an easy quitter so the element of optimism in me would want to keep trying on more. I would want to observe more in a situation so please help me with all possible advices with the products that I have. Situation- there is This high-headed girl in my class itself to whom I haven’t spoken of ever since we joined college(4 years approximately). She thinks too high of herself and the only place common between us is the college. I want to see if the pheromones can play their tricks in helping me in any way possible. I’m 23years old, have a decent well build physique(on leaner side). Please give me every detailed and step-by-step advices Thanks ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2013, 1:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-waiting-to-notice-the-real-effects/60235/2 "2013-10-16T13:20:02Z")
Don’t bank on any self effects at all - they are highly variable between individuals and individual pheros. Some also subside very quickly as you get used to them. Look on them as more of a pleasant bonus - if you get them and if they are the right ones! ---
**Author:** ![raj880](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a5b964/32.png) [@raj880](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/raj880)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2013, 10:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-waiting-to-notice-the-real-effects/60235/3 "2013-10-16T22:56:26Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Don’t bank on any self effects at all - they are highly variable between individuals and individual pheros. Some also subside very quickly as you get used to them. > > Look on them as more of a pleasant bonus - if you get them and if they are the right ones! Ok, but how do I go about the above-mentioned scenario. I’m really eager to observe the effects on pheromes. Kindly advice ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 5:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-waiting-to-notice-the-real-effects/60235/4 "2013-10-17T05:21:08Z")
> [@raj880](#): > > Ok, but how do I go about the above-mentioned scenario. I’m really eager to observe the effects on pheromes. Kindly advice You got the killer kit, start testing one thing at a time until you understand the effects, don’t expect a quick fix solution, it takes time to learn how to use the products. ---
**Author:** ![jonnyb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5a626/32.png) [@jonnyb](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jonnyb)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 6:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-waiting-to-notice-the-real-effects/60235/5 "2013-10-17T06:09:47Z")
In my short experience with the mones i’v seen people that will not react and people who react instantly. The main idea is not to rush to conclusions and keep testing first on yourself and then on others. The most important thing i concluded.. its all about your game/mood/vibe in that moment and not the solo power of the mones, use them as tool not weapon 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![raj880](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a5b964/32.png) [@raj880](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/raj880)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 9:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-waiting-to-notice-the-real-effects/60235/6 "2013-10-17T09:18:48Z")
> [@still18](#): > > You got the killer kit, start testing one thing at a time until you understand the effects, don’t expect a quick fix solution, it takes time to learn how to use the products. Yes well so far all the uneven combinations that I have tried so far has shown me one common effect; people around me laugh and smile a lot. Let’s wait till I get a concrete result. Peace ---
**Author:** ![Styr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/styr/32/5195_2.png) [@Styr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Styr)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 12:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-waiting-to-notice-the-real-effects/60235/7 "2013-10-17T12:27:15Z")
Why do you want to talk to that girl who thinks too high of herself and with whom you have not spoken a single word for the last four years? Why? Well, that illogicality aside. Step 1: Ammo + IO + [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) \<- just not too much of the latter. Step 2: Find a legitimate reason to be close to her. Ster 3: Report what happens. ---
**Author:** ![raj880](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a5b964/32.png) [@raj880](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/raj880)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 1:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-waiting-to-notice-the-real-effects/60235/8 "2013-10-17T13:42:08Z")
> [@Styr](#): > > Why do you want to talk to that girl who thinks too high of herself and with whom you have not spoken a single word for the last four years? Why? > > Well, that illogicality aside. > > Step 1: Ammo + IO + MX297 \<- just not too much of the latter. > Step 2: Find a legitimate reason to be close to her. > Ster 3: Report what happens. The logic behind it is cause I do obviously like her. Just cause the odds are against me doesn’t mean I can’t be optimistic in my approach. I don’t have MX 297 but I do have IJ. Should I go for it? And yes I will certainly report back…!! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Styr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/styr/32/5195_2.png) [@Styr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Styr)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 1:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-waiting-to-notice-the-real-effects/60235/9 "2013-10-17T13:48:29Z")
Well, I did gather you liked her. 😛 The reason I suggested you try [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) was that it is supposed to be in the starting package. According to the Androtics website, at least. I personally would have found the MX most useful in this situation. As for IJ… I have been pretty sceptical towards it, but I might have been wrong about that. That said, I have never owned it, nor tried it. I would, if I were you, try IJ with IO and perhaps a bit of Ammo (or whatever mix you decide to use) and see their reaction. If it is favourable, then go for the primary girl. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![raj880](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a5b964/32.png) [@raj880](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/raj880)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 2:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-waiting-to-notice-the-real-effects/60235/10 "2013-10-17T14:16:17Z")
> [@Styr](#): > > Well, I did gather you liked her. 😛 > > The reason I suggested you try MX297 was that it is supposed to be in the starting package. According to the Androtics website, at least. > > I personally would have found the MX most useful in this situation. As for IJ… I have been pretty sceptical towards it, but I might have been wrong about that. That said, I have never owned it, nor tried it. > > I would, if I were you, try IJ with IO and perhaps a bit of Ammo (or whatever mix you decide to use) and see their reaction. If it is favourable, then go for the primary girl. 🙂 Yup sounds like a deal to me. But don’t you think ammo and IJ would result in od of nones(pardon my selection of words I’m still a novice with “[pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/)-related terminology”) specifically in a surrounding like college ? ---
**Author:** ![Styr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/styr/32/5195_2.png) [@Styr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Styr)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 2:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-waiting-to-notice-the-real-effects/60235/11 "2013-10-17T14:25:46Z")
> [@raj880](#): > > Yup sounds like a deal to me. But don’t you think ammo and IJ would result in od of nones(pardon my selection of words I’m still a novice with “pheromone-related terminology”) specifically in a surrounding like college ? I actually forgot to write that you should try the mix with _other girls_, before moving on to the primary one. But it seems you got that. Just the two words were missing. 🙂 There is nothing wrong being unfamiliar with something new. 🙂 As for an overdose. I doubt that would happen, assuming you limit yourself to 1 spray of each, or two sprays of either [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) or IJ, and add socials, i.e IO. You could start with only one spray/only one product first, depending on what your time frame is. In either case, IO will do wonders when added in the mix. I would recommend 2-3 sprays of it, but as you have a TOGO bottle, then you should use it sparingly. 1 spray could work, but use more if you are certain that you will meet the main girl that day. Or add extra sprays when the encounter is imminent. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![raj880](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a5b964/32.png) [@raj880](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/raj880)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 3:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-waiting-to-notice-the-real-effects/60235/12 "2013-10-17T15:16:43Z")
> [@Styr](#): > > I actually forgot to write that you should try the mix with _other girls_, before moving on to the primary one. But it seems you got that. Just the two words were missing. 🙂 > > There is nothing wrong being unfamiliar with something new. 🙂 > > As for an overdose. I doubt that would happen, assuming you limit yourself to 1 spray of each, or two sprays of either Ammo or IJ, and add socials, i.e IO. You could start with only one spray/only one product first, depending on what your time frame is. In either case, IO will do wonders when added in the mix. I would recommend 2-3 sprays of it, but as you have a TOGO bottle, then you should use it sparingly. 1 spray could work, but use more if you are certain that you will meet the main girl that day. Or add extra sprays when the encounter is imminent. 😛 Thanks a lot buddy. Will try all your reccomendations and Revert back if I happen to notice anything substantial. I do however have an ammo bottle with me. Could it be used solely without any combinations for college? ---
**Author:** ![Styr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/styr/32/5195_2.png) [@Styr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Styr)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 3:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-waiting-to-notice-the-real-effects/60235/13 "2013-10-17T15:35:52Z")
You are welcome. 🙂 Yes, ammo is a good all round standalone product. Only when I have a more specific goal in mind - a specific girl, as in your case, or am meeting new people, having an important interview, presentation, or if I were filthy rich and could do it just for the sake of it, - would I use a more sophisticated and tailored mix. That said, you might even get her attracted with one spray of Ammo or IJ. You won’t know until you try. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 5:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-waiting-to-notice-the-real-effects/60235/14 "2013-10-17T17:59:09Z")
Indian women have often surprised me by the way they can go for strong none mixes, so OD might not be as much as an issue as you think, esp considering your age - Is she of similar age? If so, less worry as OD tends to be worse with the younger ones. ---
**Author:** ![raj880](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a5b964/32.png) [@raj880](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/raj880)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 9:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-waiting-to-notice-the-real-effects/60235/15 "2013-10-17T21:43:56Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Indian women have often surprised me by the way they can go for strong none mixes, so OD might not be as much as an issue as you think, esp considering your age - Is she of similar age? If so, less worry as OD tends to be worse with the younger ones. She is 22. How would the OD differ between an Indian girl who’s 22years of age and an Indian girl who’s 27years of age? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 3:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-waiting-to-notice-the-real-effects/60235/16 "2013-10-18T03:22:47Z")
A 22 year old would be much more likely to get OD reactions. A woman’s response to pheros changes as she ages and younger ones tend to go for more broadly social/sexy combinations but with age, they move towards more overtly sexual/status mixes. You do get exceptions either way and environment/state of feelings also play a part but broadly, late 20s is when she starts moving towards a more heavygoing signature. ---
**Author:** ![Himeros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/himeros/32/2325_2.png) [@Himeros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Himeros)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 5:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-waiting-to-notice-the-real-effects/60235/17 "2013-10-18T05:48:53Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Indian women have often surprised me by the way they can go for strong none mixes Very true in my experience as well. I have seen fallout on an Indian girl while I was pherobombing her with a crazy mix that probably doesn’t work on other people (A314, Ammo, Mx297, IS, IH). Closed her the day after with A314 and TUTH, which is a very heavy mix to wear (my target was 23 years old). After wearing 3 shots of ammo and 2 shots of TUTH at a crazy pary (lots of sweating too) I chatted up an early 20s Indian girl in the bus and she responded very well too to the heavy none sig. Could have at least kissed her If I’d paid more attention to her IOIs in retrospect. Check my journal for a more detailed description. ---
**Author:** ![raj880](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a5b964/32.png) [@raj880](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/raj880)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 7:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-waiting-to-notice-the-real-effects/60235/18 "2013-10-18T07:43:10Z")
> [@Himeros](#): > > Very true in my experience as well. I have seen fallout on an Indian girl while I was pherobombing her with a crazy mix that probably doesn’t work on other people (A314, Ammo, Mx297, IS, IH). Closed her the day after with A314 and TUTH, which is a very heavy mix to wear (my target was 23 years old). > > After wearing 3 shots of ammo and 2 shots of TUTH at a crazy pary (lots of sweating too) I chatted up an early 20s Indian girl in the bus and she responded very well too to the heavy none sig. Could have at least kissed her If I’d paid more attention to her IOIs in retrospect. Check my journal for a more detailed description. Damn that’s quite a heavy dose of mones buddy. Which all places could I possibly try and experiment these mixes? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 7:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-waiting-to-notice-the-real-effects/60235/19 "2013-10-18T07:49:09Z")
The more heavy going mixes are generally best in wilder, more uninhibited situations - clubs/parties and the like. places where you can both let-go, enjoy yourselves and let feelings run-wild. More polite socialising, work, college etc usually calls for a more restrained mix that promotes interaction, interest and interpersonal engagement - with some underlying sexuality of course. Its not like you can start shagging straight away one the desk in front of everybody! ---
**Author:** ![raj880](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a5b964/32.png) [@raj880](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/raj880)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 8:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-waiting-to-notice-the-real-effects/60235/20 "2013-10-18T08:15:45Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > The more heavy going mixes are generally best in wilder, more uninhibited situations - clubs/parties and the like. places where you can both let-go, enjoy yourselves and let feelings run-wild. > > More polite socialising, work, college etc usually calls for a more restrained mix that promotes interaction, interest and interpersonal engagement - with some underlying sexuality of course. Its not like you can start shagging straight away one the desk in front of everybody! Haha well said. But tell me something, how long did it take you before realizing and observing prominent effects of the pheromones. I have read that it’s a gradual and slow process. Just asking cause I have been using it for the past 3-4 days and havent been able to observe any prominent effects on people(maybe im failing to observe or maybe not) 🙂 [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/still-waiting-to-notice-the-real-effects/60235.md?page=2)