# Stop attracting women. Start OWNING them. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 9, 2007, 5:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stop-attracting-women-start-owning-them/5943 "2007-10-09T05:27:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 6:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stop-attracting-women-start-owning-them/5943/21 "2007-10-09T18:12:32Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > Yeah. Hard work, but nice work if you can get it.😉 I agree. I want to be the best I can be for her.. in all ways. If I can learn how to kiss better, I want to. If I can learn even from how lesbians kiss, I want to learn 🙂 etc… ---
**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 6:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stop-attracting-women-start-owning-them/5943/22 "2007-10-09T18:50:19Z")
Oooh a possessive complex. Just add easily Jealous, obsessive, and insecure and you have all the worst traits a man can have in regards to women. ---
**Author:** ![NeoPhunk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/neophunk/32/563_2.png) [@NeoPhunk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NeoPhunk)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 6:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stop-attracting-women-start-owning-them/5943/23 "2007-10-09T18:59:15Z")
> [@inkling](#): > > hahaha Easy there [Pappy O’daniel](http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/treasures/characters/pappy.html). > > What pheromones are you sniffing today? HA! My thoughts exactly. These forums wouldnt be the same without overly deep “Tater Topics” 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 7:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stop-attracting-women-start-owning-them/5943/24 "2007-10-09T19:03:50Z")
> [@Pheraoh](#): > > Oooh a possessive complex. Just add easily Jealous, obsessive, and insecure and you have all the worst traits a man can have in regards to women. A person can give themselves to you, so it’s not that you HAVE to have them. Right, Tater? You wouldn’t mind if this wasn’t so.. The Phero-Man is non-needy, non-possessive, non-jealous, non-obsessive, confident and secure… that must go in the manifesto too. ---
**Author:** ![NeoPhunk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/neophunk/32/563_2.png) [@NeoPhunk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NeoPhunk)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 7:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stop-attracting-women-start-owning-them/5943/25 "2007-10-09T19:06:57Z")
I would like to order a copy of said Manifesto… ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 7:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stop-attracting-women-start-owning-them/5943/26 "2007-10-09T19:26:17Z")
> [@NeoPhunk](#): > > I would like to order a copy of said Manifesto… It may take years to refine… ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 8:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stop-attracting-women-start-owning-them/5943/27 "2007-10-09T20:29:26Z")
“owning women” is politically incorrect. The last time you could own a woman the good old USA nearly spilt into 2 countries. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 8:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stop-attracting-women-start-owning-them/5943/28 "2007-10-09T20:49:07Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > “owning women” is politically incorrect. The last time you could own a woman the good old USA nearly spilt into 2 countries. Let’s not talk politics.. it’s boring… 😃😃 I was more thinking about the Phero-Man than “owning” anything. Though what happens when someone gives you something as a gift? Does it become yours? Just wondering… in this case, a relationship, perhaps both could “own” each other, though I’m not into the word myself.. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 10:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stop-attracting-women-start-owning-them/5943/29 "2007-10-09T22:43:10Z")
Just being a smartass. Nevertheless, with female college graduation rates overwhelming males numbers, it is likely women will soon be “owning” the men. In another generation they’ll have all the good jobs, all the money and all the power. Men will be labors and strippers, living mainly to serve women. The college I teach at is 60% female and 40% male. Graduate school has even stronger female numbers. ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 11:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stop-attracting-women-start-owning-them/5943/30 "2007-10-09T23:50:39Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Men will be labors and strippers, living mainly to serve women. The college I teach at is 60% female and 40% male. Graduate school has even stronger female numbers. House Husbands?? Soccer Dads?? Luncheons with the boys (_just salad for me, I’ve got to keep my boyish figure for her_)??😮 ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 11:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stop-attracting-women-start-owning-them/5943/31 "2007-10-09T23:55:27Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > The college I teach at is 60% female and 40% male. Graduate school has even stronger female numbers. However engineering schools are a different story altogether…both undergraduate and graduate. Female strength is less than 20% of the entire class. In the current class I am assisting it is exactly 20% which is the highest I have seen in my 6 years. OTOH I see arts, fashion, music classes which have quite the opposite story with 80% or more females. So if females will start dominating in the job market some time in the future we can kind of extrapolate which jobs will be the highest paying… definitely not engineering. Too late for me to change major though! ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2007, 12:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stop-attracting-women-start-owning-them/5943/32 "2007-10-10T00:14:33Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Just being a smartass. Nevertheless, with female college graduation rates overwhelming males numbers, it is likely women will soon be “owning” the men. In another generation they’ll have all the good jobs, all the money and all the power. Men will be labors and strippers, living mainly to serve women. The college I teach at is 60% female and 40% male. Graduate school has even stronger female numbers. eh, I could live with that. ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2007, 1:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stop-attracting-women-start-owning-them/5943/33 "2007-10-10T01:09:05Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > …“Hey, i know this is a bit awkward and…” I paused and she came a half-step closer, pulled back the tresses on one side of her face and draped them behind her ear. “I know you get this all the time, but…” She bit her lip in a way that turned it blood-red almost instantly and looked so seductive that i almost cracked. I hemmed and hawed a bit. “Well, you know how it is being single, so.” I \*!$@ you not, her blue eyes sparkled like there were fireworks inside them. “Do you think -your friend- likes me?” She kept smiling, but the blood was draining from her face and this was about the best DIHL ive ever seen. “I think shes incredible, but i just know guys hit on her like sailors coming back from sea. Do you know if shes seeing anybody?” “Uh. No. We try to stay out of each others’ personal lives.” “Really?” “Uh. Yeah. But it wouldnt hurt to ask her yourself.” “Yeah, ive been meaning to do that, but it just never seemed like the right time. Shes just so adorable and all, you know, she just makes me feel all lit up inside. And she has such an incredible sense of humor. I was just laughing all night long and when she…” “Hey, dont mean to cut you off but ive been holding it and i really need to go. Small bladder.” And with that, she pushed the door and walked into the womens restroom. > > I had to get out of there before i exploded, so i quickly walked to the lobby, told everyone good night and came home. > > This is the woman who has been treating me like dirt and i think i just pile-drove her… Mean. Are you testing the old “hell hath no fury …” saying? > [@nbully79](#): > > However engineering schools are a different story altogether…both undergraduate and graduate. Female strength is less than 20% of the entire class. In the current class I am assisting it is exactly 20% which is the highest I have seen in my 6 years. OTOH I see arts, fashion, music classes which have quite the opposite story with 80% or more females. > > So if females will start dominating in the job market some time in the future we can kind of extrapolate which jobs will be the highest paying… definitely not engineering. Too late for me to change major though! Someone has to entertain the engineers. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2007, 5:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stop-attracting-women-start-owning-them/5943/34 "2007-10-10T05:04:50Z")
> [@Phoenix](#): > > A person can give themselves to you, so it’s not that you HAVE to have them. Right, Tater? > You wouldn’t mind if this wasn’t so.. > > The Phero-Man is non-needy, non-possessive, non-jealous, non-obsessive, confident and secure… that must go in the manifesto too. I dont think Tater and Phoenix are the only ones who think “owning” and “being owned” is somewhat romantic. How many posts are there about guys wanting their own stalker from A314? I appreciate a slightly possessive woman, even a little bit of jealousy can be hot. This isnt about being needy or obsessive over a woman. Its about being a man beyond her wildest dreams, making the relationship an incredibly fun thing for her, working at being just a little bit difficult, too much fun to have and almost too much man to hang on to. Wait a second. I just described the role many women have been filling, at least the most seductive ones. The phero-male is like a male geisha who cant be bought, but a very lucky woman might be able to have an exclusive with him. He is not a geisha. He chooses his companions carefully and his companions take comfort in knowing that hes ultimately in control. Geisha have to train hard and work hard to keep their clients entertained. Phero-males also must train in many areas, pheros, personality interactions, dance, fashion, style… And being the male who drives her crazy with desire takes work too. Have you ever tried to plan a romantic evening of biscuits and maple syrup? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2007, 5:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stop-attracting-women-start-owning-them/5943/35 "2007-10-10T05:17:22Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > I dont think Tater and Phoenix are the only ones who think “owning” and “being owned” is somewhat romantic. How many posts are there about guys wanting their own stalker from A314? I appreciate a slightly possessive woman, even a little bit of jealousy can be hot. > > This isnt about being needy or obsessive over a woman. Its about being a man beyond her wildest dreams, making the relationship an incredibly fun thing for her, working at being just a little bit difficult, too much fun to have and almost too much man to hang on to. > > Wait a second. I just described the role many women have been filling, at least the most seductive ones. The phero-male is like a male geisha who cant be bought, but a very lucky woman might be able to have an exclusive with him. He is not a geisha. He chooses his companions carefully and his companions take comfort in knowing that hes ultimately in control. > > Geisha have to train hard and work hard to keep their clients entertained. Phero-males also must train in many areas, pheros, personality interactions, dance, fashion, style… And being the male who drives her crazy with desire takes work too. Have you ever tried to plan a romantic evening of biscuits and maple syrup? 😛 Precisely. I had my own stalker woman and I didn’t want her at all. I myself prefer someone who is like me, non-needy.. I don’t have to call her every day or even message her good night. I’ve got to plan for tonight now 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2007, 7:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stop-attracting-women-start-owning-them/5943/36 "2007-10-10T07:06:08Z")
lol A had a girl who just wouldn’t let go of me! For years she stalking me, sending love notes ect.I had several girlfriends after her still she entertained getting back with me. She was like Tar Baby never letting go .This has happened a few times with ex lovers so the idea of a stalker just dont do it for me. It really was pure hell! Sure its wonderful when a girl you like and are attracted too wants you exclusively but as soon as you close in on someone and limit their freedom all that was good in your connection is lost. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2007, 7:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stop-attracting-women-start-owning-them/5943/37 "2007-10-10T07:23:35Z")
Tater was once stalked by a woman he actually wanted. I was dating another woman at the time and committed to the relationship so i kept her at a distance, which made her constantly try harder. Those were glorious days. ---
**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2007, 7:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stop-attracting-women-start-owning-them/5943/38 "2007-10-10T07:30:45Z")
HA ha yeah iv had that when i was with my Japanese girlfriend an es hostess. The stalker was my very cute neighbor! She once knocked on my door and invited me to come over for some coffee.When i didnt come over she knocked on my door again.This time i let her in, by this time my girlfriend was home and she come in our room for some warm saki I guess that kinda stalker is ok but a possessive ex is awful ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2007, 8:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stop-attracting-women-start-owning-them/5943/39 "2007-10-10T08:09:47Z")
> [@flaming](#): > > lol A had a girl who just wouldn’t let go of me! For years she stalking me, sending love notes ect.I had several girlfriends after her still she entertained getting back with me. She was like Tar Baby never letting go .This has happened a few times with ex lovers so the idea of a stalker just dont do it for me. > > It really was pure hell! > > Sure its wonderful when a girl you like and are attracted too wants you exclusively but as soon as you close in on someone and limit their freedom all that was good in your connection is lost. I agree with you… best thing I have found is to connect with a woman who understands all of this herself.. pure gold! ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2007, 9:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stop-attracting-women-start-owning-them/5943/40 "2007-10-10T09:33:04Z")
> [@flaming](#): > > Sure its wonderful when a girl you like and are attracted too wants you exclusively but as soon as you close in on someone and limit their freedom all that was good in your connection is lost. Well, that’s the reason why wise men used to say, “If you love someone, then set them free!”.😉 🙂 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stop-attracting-women-start-owning-them/5943.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stop-attracting-women-start-owning-them/5943.md?page=3)