# Strange/negative effects? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 9, 2012, 6:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/strange-negative-effects/56667 "2012-09-09T18:49:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![raja1530](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@raja1530](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/raja1530)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2012, 6:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/strange-negative-effects/56667/1 "2012-09-09T18:49:12Z")
I recently purchased ammo, TUTH and MX297. This is my first time trying or using [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) in general. I haven’t tried TUTH as of yet but ammo I did try for a few days and MX297 once however I found with ammo I felt that it doesn’t really have good effect and to a point almost a negative effect on women and people around in general almost stand offish. The one time I used MX297 the effect wasn’t bad. But I want to know if I’m doing something wrong what I did I sprayed once on both my writs then slightly dabbed my writs behind my ears to my neck . I feel like I’m doing something wrong to get this kind of effect. Maybe someone can give me some insight if I’m doing something wrong and some advice. ---
**Author:** ![Aghor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aghor/32/1558_2.png) [@Aghor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aghor)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 12:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/strange-negative-effects/56667/2 "2012-09-10T00:27:49Z")
> [@raja1530](#): > > I … however I found with ammo I felt that it doesn’t really have good effect and to a point almost a negative effect on women and people around in general almost stand offish. The one time I used MX297 the effect wasn’t bad. … Sounds like an overdose… but before we arrive at a conclusion… do let us know the following what was the dossage and environment when u applied AMMO and 297 ? how long since application did u see the said results. did u see same results from more than one woman? when was your last shower before you applied AMMO & which part of the globe are you from & howzz the weather. (hot climate/cold climate/freezing climate?? 🙂 ) ---
**Author:** ![raja1530](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@raja1530](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/raja1530)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 9:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/strange-negative-effects/56667/3 "2012-09-10T09:15:24Z")
The AMMO is X2 the [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) is regular. I applied one spray on each of my wrist and dabbed it on my neck. I started see the results not long after applying what I did was shower dress and apply I normally shower every time I go out right before so after shower would apply . I noticed the results generally sometimes it’s hit or miss but mostly that’s the results I get the strange/negative results. I’m MTL Canada the weather over here is warm kinda getting cooler. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 12:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/strange-negative-effects/56667/4 "2012-09-10T12:00:46Z")
With 2x Ammo at 29, you are almost certainly into OD with two sprays. Also, personally I don’t find that [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) goes too well with a lot of Ammo. When I’m adding none to MX297, I generally use plain Androstenone or TUTH and not a great deal of either. You need to go back and do your sweet spot testing with Ammo and I really hope you didn’t get 2x TUTH as well - that will be difficult to get a handle-on. And with the Ammo and any other none product, I would make the neck/throat the primary application area, with wrists/forearms a secondary. ---
**Author:** ![raja1530](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@raja1530](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/raja1530)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 1:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/strange-negative-effects/56667/5 "2012-09-10T13:29:46Z")
I didn’t get 2X TUTH but one spray of 2X AMMO where would you suggest I spray? > [@mobocaster](#): > > With 2x Ammo at 29, you are almost certainly into OD with two sprays. > > Also, personally I don’t find that MX297 goes too well with a lot of Ammo. When I’m adding none to MX297, I generally use plain Androstenone or TUTH and not a great deal of either. > > You need to go back and do your sweet spot testing with Ammo and I really hope you didn’t get 2x TUTH as well - that will be difficult to get a handle-on. > > And with the Ammo and any other none product, I would make the neck/throat the primary application area, with wrists/forearms a secondary. ---
**Author:** ![Apoplectic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/apoplectic/32/398_2.png) [@Apoplectic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Apoplectic)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 2:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/strange-negative-effects/56667/6 "2012-09-10T14:55:50Z")
For the AMMO you may want to do a single spray on your neck, then dab your wrists in it. For the TUTH, try a spray or two on the chest. Your shirt should ease the diffusion a bit so only women you reel in close will get the priviledge of expiriancing it. ---
**Author:** ![Aghor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aghor/32/1558_2.png) [@Aghor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aghor)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 4:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/strange-negative-effects/56667/7 "2012-09-10T16:44:57Z")
mobo is spot on… its AMMO overdose..2 sprays of 2X AMMO is equal to 4 sprays of regular AMMO thats 10 MCG is androstenone alone… bring it down to 1 spray or half a spray first.. and for the first few weeks, just use each individual phero separately.. dont mix until you are sure about the sweet spot for each