# Studpup's Journal **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [March 7, 2011, 6:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/studpups-journal/49186 "2011-03-07T06:45:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![studpup](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/studpup/32/1480_2.png) [@studpup](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/studpup)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2011, 6:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/studpups-journal/49186/1 "2011-03-07T06:45:30Z")
I’m a bit late in setting this up, but life has been insane. I haven’t had time to test and document everything I got as well as I hoped. But anyway… I’m back for now! So let’s get this thing started!! First, here’s a link to my intro post with some info about me: > [@Hey there!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there/44720): > > Hey there! I came across this forum by accident, while looking up reviews on fragrances. I hadn’t thought about [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) in a while, to be honest. About two years ago I tried Pherlure and it really didn’t do anything for me. So I kinda disregarded pheromones after that. Anyway, recently I started trying out a lot of higher-end fragrances. One of them has musk and civet mixed in, and on me, it seems to get a really interesting reaction from people. In fact, the last time I wore it while out dr… Second? Thanks to everyone who helped and extra special thanks to **Steve** and **GorMas2020** for really helping me figure out which products might work best on me and what combinations to start off trying. You guys are awesome! Ok! Here’s my current stash and some quickie reviews: Ishine - Sometimes one spray gives me a bit of a buzz and a bit of a boost, sometimes it takes a couple of sprays. So far I like this one a lot. Next I’ll try it at double strength. IO - I absolutely love this and used this one most often. It’s just really a lot of fun and everyone I’m around seems so mellow and kinda chill, but chatty at the same time. (I’m planning to order this in double strength to see if that’s much different for me.) IG - This is the one I’ve used second most often. (My life drama has lead to a lot of time with my extended family, so this seemed appropriate.) This is a amazing for me though, cause it seems to kind-of help cement the bonds I have with my close extended family. A few examples: My baby nephew and I are pretty close, but when I started using this he has gotten a bit more clingy (in a cute, non-whiny way). When I use this, my uncle (who I know respects me a lot) will suddenly go out of his way to not only tell me how much he values me, but actually starts telling everyone else the same thing. and more than all of that, somehow the family connections just seems even tighter, while I feel kinda mellow and a bit more grown-up too. I love this for daytime use and especially for family settings. I’m going to order more of this for sure. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) - I haven’t tried this as much as I’ve wanted to. So far it seems good and I plan on layering it with some Ishine and IO when I go out. A314 (1.23A) - I only tried this once, but to be honest I didn’t notice too much of a change in how I felt or how people reacted to me. It could’ve been something about me or that day. I dunno. This wasn’t one of the ones that was recommended for me, but I got it free and I’ll definitely try to test this properly to see exactly how it works on me. I think this could be interesting when I’m in the right mood to run with it. IH - I like this and I do get a very conversational vibe with this. What I mean is that people around me want to get into longer, more in-depth conversations with me when I use this in one-on-one or small group settings. It’s cool, but not as much fun as IO. TUTH - This wasn’t one of the ones recommended for me, but I had to try it anyway! Well… Honestly? So far I haven’t gotten much of a reaction to this. When I have 1-2 sprays of this on (cause I haven’t tried more sprays than that), people treat me pretty much the same as always. The only thing I barely noticed once was that a couple of teen girls were averting their eyes (like they’d glance down randomly while talking to me), while being polite, friendly, and very very very respectful at the same time. But seriously, mostly people acted the way they always seem to act when I have none of this stuff on. Now I haven’t tried this in any sort-of really overtly sexual setting, so maybe that’s where it might shine. I’m still going to experiment more with this anyway though! IJ - Just wanted to try this for fun. Only used a couple of times. The first time was when hanging out and drinking with someone. This just seemed like instant buzzkill when I used it, but nothing worse than that. For the second trial, I used it when I went out running errands that I knew would involve me running into lots of people. Mostly, people seemed to react normally to me but since it made me feel a bit more blah (somewhat anti-social and mostly just ‘over’ everything and everyone if you know what I mean), I wound up avoiding people altogether. Not sure when I’ll try this again. – So basically, I’ve been enjoying experimenting with this stuff when I’ve been able to. I’m about to place an order for the three things I’ve used most so far. Plus I’ll be trying the Ishine, IO, and Ammo combo while out at a bar/club this Saturday. Then if I get some more IG and IO (2x) in time, I’ll try a combo of those two for a big family event on Sunday. I’m interested in trying more stuff if my budget will allow it. So if anyone has any other suggestions, pass 'em along! Thanks!!! ---
**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2011, 11:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/studpups-journal/49186/2 "2011-03-07T11:47:17Z")
IO 2x or even 4x would be well worth it. A314 is an amazing product but you will have to use it numerous times around people in order to see any prounced effect. To be honest, it’s just ‘liquid gold’ just like many describe it here. Even though the hits aren’t obvious but it’s known that respect hits go long way compared to sexual hits. Don’t underestimate it just because you got it for free 😉 (consider yourself lucky). Kids will make a God of you out of every word you say with A314 😃. You seem to be on the right track. Good luck with your journey 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![studpup](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/studpup/32/1480_2.png) [@studpup](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/studpup)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 5:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/studpups-journal/49186/3 "2011-03-08T05:05:08Z")
> [@PheroJack](#): > > IO 2x or even 4x would be well worth it. > A314 is an amazing product but you will have to use it numerous times around people in order to see any prounced effect. To be honest, it’s just ‘liquid gold’ just like many describe it here. Even though the hits aren’t obvious but it’s known that respect hits go long way compared to sexual hits. Don’t underestimate it just because you got it for free 😉 (consider yourself lucky). Kids will make a God of you out of every word you say with A314 😃. > You seem to be on the right track. > Good luck with your journey 🙂 Thanks! I wasn’t knocking A314. Actually I was pretty thrilled that they threw that in. It’s gonna be a cool one to test! have you tried both the A and B versions? What do you think? ---
**Author:** ![studpup](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/studpup/32/1480_2.png) [@studpup](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/studpup)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 5:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/studpups-journal/49186/4 "2011-03-08T05:21:15Z")
Ok, here’s what I tried today! **Product:** A314 1.23A (with no buffers and no cologne either, but I did use a little deodorant of course) **Application:** two sprays, sort-of to the front of my neck (just randomly picked that spot though) **Results:** While at home, I didn’t notice much of a change in my own mood. My family seemed to treat me the same. (It’s worth noting that, even though I’m still kinda young, they all have a lot of respect for me and even the older relatives will stop to listen to whatever I have to say, etc.) While I was out, I don’t think I felt too different either. One girl immediately commented, in front of her boyfriend, about how great I smelled once she got into the car with us. I think her exact words were, “OMG! You smell GREEEEEEAAAT,” which her boyfriend followed by adding that I always smell great. lol. She kinda went on about this for a while. Everyone’s mood was pretty positive. Definitely a good vibe. At a few stores, I did notice that the people who came over to help me seemed to want to be extremely helpful. One girl was kind-of shy at first, but once I initiated a conversation, she was actually searching for more information to help me get future discounts even though I never asked for anything at all. She even apologized for not finding as many as she had hoped. LOL! A teen guy was kind-of lingering (in a younger brother kind-of way) after helping me, until I started to seem dismissive (not rude though) cause I needed to move on. So all in all, this was positive and made me more certain I want to try A314 again. I don’t think it changes how I feel too much, but people seem to react well to it and it might amp up parts of my normal personality or whatever in a good, subtle way. ---
**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 5:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/studpups-journal/49186/5 "2011-03-08T05:42:59Z")
(a) is slightly more potent than the (b) version. Personally, 2-3 sprays of the (b) version is enough for me. (a) might be a little pushy for me. ---
**Author:** ![studpup](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/studpup/32/1480_2.png) [@studpup](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/studpup)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 6:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/studpups-journal/49186/6 "2011-03-08T06:12:06Z")
> [@PheroJack](#): > > (a) is slightly more potent than the (b) version. Personally, 2-3 sprays of the (b) version is enough for me. (a) might be a little pushy for me. Ah ok. So far A seems to be ok for me, but maybe I’m already pushy lol ---
**Author:** ![studpup](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/studpup/32/1480_2.png) [@studpup](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/studpup)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 9:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/studpups-journal/49186/7 "2011-03-16T09:34:02Z")
I used this while out for a big birthday thing at a bar/club last Saturday: **Products and Application:** IShine (2x) - two sprays to my neck IO (2X) - two sprays on each arm Ammo - on the centre of my neck (also used some cologne on my chest lol) **Results:** I showered, got dressed and sprayed all of this stuff. Prior to getting ready, everyone acted as they usually do. After the application, someone said I looked like James Dean and another girl said I was outshining the girls cause I was better dressed. (That’s weird cause I was not as dressed up as the girls and not much more well-dressed than the other guys in our party.) At the actual bar/club thingy, everyone was cool but I didn’t notice anything too out of the ordinary. In fact, I was thinking that I should have walked with a to-go for another application. Anyway, once everyone arrived and relaxed, people started chatting. Mostly the girls were very, very chatty with me, but about a half hour later the guys started getting more chatty with me too. (At that point we were all in our private lounge area, so there were no strangers except for like waitresses or whatever.) I’d assume everyone was getting chattier because of alcohol, but some of the girls were not drinking at all. So then maybe it was the [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/)? I got dragged out to the dance floor and I’m not sure if the heat and the dancing helped with diffusing the pheromones, but about every half hour more and more girls in our party were insanely chatty with me and sorta staying close to me. There were a couple of girls who apparently normally refuse to dance with anyone, but I asked, smiled, and they followed. Apparently while I was dancing with everyone in my party, random guys were trying to get very close to me (either my sides or behind me) to start dancing with me. I had no clue they were there until I was told later. I’m gonna assume that was the pheromones again, cause I wasn’t even looking in these random guys’ direction (lol). So what else could it be? Right? Anyway, the people in my party kinda kept any random people away from me. So I don’t have too much more to report on that front. I noticed at certain points later in the night, after all the dancing was done and we were just hanging out, people seemed to be sticking close to me and being very attentive, almost hanging on my words. Anyway, all in all it was another positive experience. ---
**Author:** ![studpup](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/studpup/32/1480_2.png) [@studpup](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/studpup)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 10:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/studpups-journal/49186/8 "2011-03-16T22:32:49Z")
Here’s what I used on Sunday evening! **Product:** IG (ToGo) - with no additional cologne, but I did use an anti-perspirant/deodorant stick as usual **Application:** two sprays, one to each side of my neck (not quite at the pulse points) **Event:** Family get-together, indoors, all ages **Results:** I don’t think I notice self-effects as much now. Close family seem to act the way they usually act when I use IG. Warm and friendly toward me, with a sense of trust… This isn’t a huge difference from how they acted with me before I started using pheromones, but I do notice that with IG there is less of an edge. If some family members might have seemed a little more confrontational, now they are more mellow and agreeable - even if I am speaking out strongly about some issue or something. So again, on Saturday they were warm, friendly, trusting, and agreeable. At the event there were a lot of extended family members who I haven’t seen in years. A few girls (late teens to early twenties) were there. In the past, they’ve always been polite to me but kept a huge distance. This is the first time I’ve ever seen them purposely come sit next to me and start conversation. In fact, they did this a few times - even following me into different rooms. This is a huge change to their normal behaviour around me and this stood out the most to me. Other than that, my 11-month old nephew was as attached to me as he usually is. I wear IG a lot when he happens to be around, so he’s used to it. I know that he began to get more clingy with me once I started wearing IG, but he’s also at that age where he’s really identifying the people he is closest to. So his attachment to me is likely a mix of these things. It is worth noting that he’s a friendly baby who enjoys being around lots of people, but once I’m in the room or he can see me… he wants to be near to me. He’ll sometimes just sit or stand with me, but then turn and play, laugh, and interact with everyone else. **Conclusion:** I still really enjoy using IG. I think it is ideal for these sorts of family events. I happen to have a huge family and tons of these things to go to each month, so any help is great! The biggest plus is that, since my own personality or whatever can be a bit dominant and sometimes have an edge to it, the IG seems to make people more mellow toward that. That means I can still pretty much act as I normally would, while getting a more positive reaction from pretty much everyone in the huge extended family. That said, this is not something I plan on using for a night out or even at school. For me this is something I’ll use indoors on the weekends at home or out at big family events. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 10:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/studpups-journal/49186/9 "2011-03-16T22:40:36Z")
Your family and friends will be hard-pressed to see real results for a while around. They know you the best and are already in-tune to your natural identity. Its like if you are the serious guy at all these functions and then all of a sudden the next time you see them crack a joke. They will still think you’re a serious guy. One joke doesn’t make you a funny man. Start cracking jokes a few more times and they will think he tells some funny jokes once in a while. Again a few jokes doesn’t make you a funny man. However every time you see them if you keep telling jokes they will now recognize that new persona and say you are a funny guy. You have products like Ammo and IJ too and seemingly you are getting good results. Are you sweet spot testing or just doing it haphazardly which can only mean you’ll get haphazard results? ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 10:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/studpups-journal/49186/10 "2011-03-16T22:43:28Z")
Hey there Studpup! Hadn’t seen your journal and looking good! 🙂 Have you used IG by its lonesome on a few tests in differing environments to see if you get the same results? Yeah, IG is could be a good cool big brother vibe, I can see how that fits in with your experiences. I’ve used IG and have been able to steer its signal to be more assertive or tone it down and mellowed a bit, but with the leadership vibe of IG still present. I’m registered on your thread now! ---
**Author:** ![studpup](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/studpup/32/1480_2.png) [@studpup](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/studpup)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 11:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/studpups-journal/49186/11 "2011-03-16T23:53:13Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Your family and friends will be hard-pressed to see real results for a while around. They know you the best and are already in-tune to your natural identity. Its like if you are the serious guy at all these functions and then all of a sudden the next time you see them crack a joke. They will still think you’re a serious guy. One joke doesn’t make you a funny man. Start cracking jokes a few more times and they will think he tells some funny jokes once in a while. Again a few jokes doesn’t make you a funny man. However every time you see them if you keep telling jokes they will now recognize that new persona and say you are a funny guy. > You have products like Ammo and IJ too and seemingly you are getting good results. Are you sweet spot testing or just doing it haphazardly which can only mean you’ll get haphazard results? Hey Steve! Hope you’re starting to feel better! I get what you’re saying about the family, but I genuinely feel like I’m seeing some results (with IG anyway) with some of them. My aunt who I live with? No, not at all. But if I’m in a situation where another aunt or uncle would have gotten into a heated “discussion” with me before (lol) now they are more mellow and we can actually have a real discussion. It’s like I can use the same words and mannerisms, but things don’t push their buttons as much. It’s a bit subtle, but that’s something I’ve really noticed. With IO, again my aunt who I live with acts the same as always and I guess that makes sense based on what you’re saying. But the other family who don’t live here but visit throughout the week? They seem soooo much more relaxed and chatty when I use IO. I know I’ve only posted a few journal entries here, but I’ve been testing stuff out since I got them. With all the stuff going on in my family (two deaths within the last few weeks, plus other major illnesses before then, etc), it’s been hard to make time to come here and do a proper write up each time. I do confess that I have not followed your sweet spot method. I know I probably should, but a big part of why I’m interested in pheromones is to have fun with it. I don’t want to lose the fun aspect of this. That said… I have done a bit of proper testing with IG, IO, and IShine alone. It’s not as accurate, I guess, as had I followed your method but… I think my sweet spot for IG is about 4 sprays. 2-3 can work a bit, but 4 seems more right. Now I have been hesitant to go way beyond like 6 sprays cause I’m a student and I don’t wanna use up all of my stuff too fast. (I already had to order a second set of IG! lol!) With IO, I was using about 4 sprays of the 1x strength on average. I got good results, but never reached a plateau. (I ran out cause I shared my stuff with my cousins.) I just got the 2x strength and I’m just now trying that. So far I’ve only used it twice - once alone (2 sprays) and once at the party. Same with IShine. Note: I have not used IJ more than 2-3 times, once while alone just to check for self-effects. I’ve only used Ammo a few times. I have looooots more testing to do, but also some playing too! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![studpup](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/studpup/32/1480_2.png) [@studpup](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/studpup)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 12:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/studpups-journal/49186/12 "2011-03-17T00:02:06Z")
> [@1Alpha](#): > > Hey there Studpup! Hadn’t seen your journal and looking good! 🙂 > Have you used IG by its lonesome on a few tests in differing environments to see if you get the same results? > Yeah, IG is could be a good cool big brother vibe, I can see how that fits in with your experiences. I’ve used IG and have been able to steer its signal to be more assertive or tone it down and mellowed a bit, but with the leadership vibe of IG still present. > I’m registered on your thread now! Thanks! I’ve seen your journal too, but it’s taking me a while to get through all the information on this forum! 🙂 I have used IG alone quite a few times. So far, I’ve tried it at home on the weekends with family visiting, out at big family events (huge extended family present, usually with some people I don’t know too), and then out with family (out shopping, like at malls, or just hanging around and stuff - but in the presence of lots of strangers as well). But sometimes I do like to use it with IO too. That seems to be a good mix for me, when we have family visiting here at home. I like those two products a lot, but then I have lots more trying, testing, and playing to do! 😃