# Stupid Mistake?? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 30, 2010, 1:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stupid-mistake/40417 "2010-07-30T01:21:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ocd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e19b73/32.png) [@ocd](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ocd)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stupid-mistake/40417/1 "2010-07-30T01:21:48Z")
I usuyaly wear 1 x A314, 2 x AMMO and cover it with my favourite cologne Acqua Di Gio. I don’t know what I was thinking but the other day I end up opening the 50ml bottle of Acqua Di Gio which is ¼ full and end up pouring 10ml A314 and 20ml AMMO in it so I don’t have to layer anymore. Did I make a stupid mistake? Will the pheros still be effective? ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stupid-mistake/40417/2 "2010-07-30T01:36:18Z")
Experiment my friend, experiment!🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ocd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e19b73/32.png) [@ocd](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ocd)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stupid-mistake/40417/3 "2010-07-30T01:45:42Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Experiment my friend, experiment!🙂 Thanks Steve but will the pheros still be effective or loose their effect due to mixing? ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 2:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stupid-mistake/40417/4 "2010-07-30T02:02:12Z")
> [@ocd](#): > > I usuyaly wear 1 x A314, 2 x AMMO and cover it with my favourite cologne Acqua Di Gio. > > I don’t know what I was thinking but the other day I end up opening the 50ml bottle of Acqua Di Gio which is ¼ full and end up pouring 10ml A314 and 20ml AMMO in it so I don’t have to layer anymore. > > Did I make a stupid mistake? Will the pheros still be effective? Um Well lets take a look at this Approximately 12.5 ML of ADG 30 ML of [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) so that’s 42.5 ML You’re probably going to have to pour it back into the AMMO bottle so you have some sort of dosage when it comes to sprays. But assuming everything was full then you’ll have. 8166 mcg of pheromones. AMMO holds 30 ML so 30/42.5 = 70% of contents 70% of 8166 is 5767 of total pheromones Approx 200 sprays 5767/200 = 28.8211 mcg of pheromones per spray Since A314 is 23.8 mcg of pheromones per drop and the ratio of A314:AMMO is 5.44/1 pheromone content wise then that would leave you with That’s where my math fails me. But hey like steve said. Experiment! ---
**Author:** ![England](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/england/32/1163_2.png) [@England](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/England)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 2:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stupid-mistake/40417/5 "2010-07-30T02:07:37Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > That’s where my math fails me. 😮 You say that as if your disappointed! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 2:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stupid-mistake/40417/6 "2010-07-30T02:46:56Z")
LMAO I actually got it now, since the total pheromone mixture is one, and if composited evenly then there would only be in that 30ml bottle 70% of total pheomones so it would be 4666 mcg of A413 pheromones leading to 200 sprays 23.31 mcg of A314 per spray and 5.25 mcg/spray of AMMO I’m an idiot, it was that easy. ---
**Author:** ![ocd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e19b73/32.png) [@ocd](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ocd)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 4:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stupid-mistake/40417/7 "2010-07-30T04:50:15Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > LMAO > > I actually got it now, since the total pheromone mixture is one, and if composited evenly then there would only be in that 30ml bottle 70% of total pheomones so it would be 4666 mcg of A413 pheromones leading to 200 sprays 23.31 mcg of A314 per spray and 5.25 mcg/spray of AMMO > > I’m an idiot, it was that easy. OK… so that’s still not 1:2 ratio. I need to add more AMMO but how much? ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 6:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stupid-mistake/40417/8 "2010-07-30T06:32:07Z")
Let’s call this a learning experience and try not to do your own mixes. Remember this is based solely on the numbers you gave me with assumed levels of pheromones. This isn’t exact, I just tried to give you a general idea of everything. Pheromones are really meant to be mixed on the skin, this is why it’s designed this way, dosed sprays, consistent results every time. Once you start making your own mixes and try to solve a problem with in the experiment, you’re just going to spend more money in trial and error and might not end up with the same result. Also take into consideration that A314 is DPG and now you’ve exponentially added a diffuser that’s alcohol based. I’m not a chemist so I’m not going to be able to tell you the exazct time frame of how long this is going to last, you’ll have to experiment on that as well. Leave this how it is right now, and just purchase a new bottle of AMMO and A314. Leave those alone and add drops/sprays as needed to get the effects you want. It make take a while but you’ll find it. Plus it’s not a waste of money cause theoretically it should last just as long because you set the application ratio. Either way you’ll learn something interesting but personally I wouldn’t buy more AMMO, its because you’ll mess up the ratio’s again. ---
**Author:** ![xrawxtalentx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xrawxtalentx/32/1091_2.png) [@xrawxtalentx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xrawxtalentx)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 8:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stupid-mistake/40417/9 "2010-07-30T08:53:24Z")
my head hurts… thanks mustang ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 9:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stupid-mistake/40417/10 "2010-07-30T09:42:49Z")
I would say yes you made a costly mistake but as Steve suggested experiment with it still. Maybe you got lucky and didnt dilute it to much. When you make a mix use only single molecule raw pheromones. Mixes like ammo and A314 are already mixed and balanced and you throw the ratio of pheromones to carrier off when you mix them. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stupid-mistake/40417/11 "2010-07-30T13:22:57Z")
Sorry I was typing it late last night, I really meant. Try not to do your own mixes with full 30 ML bottles, use it on your skin so you wont throw ratios off that way ---
**Author:** ![MVKBUGATTI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@MVKBUGATTI](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MVKBUGATTI)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2010, 4:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/stupid-mistake/40417/12 "2010-07-31T04:58:54Z")
> [@ocd](#): > > I usuyaly wear 1 x A314, 2 x AMMO and cover it with my favourite cologne Acqua Di Gio. > > I don’t know what I was thinking but the other day I end up opening the 50ml bottle of Acqua Di Gio which is ¼ full and end up pouring 10ml A314 and 20ml AMMO in it so I don’t have to layer anymore. > > Did I make a stupid mistake? Will the pheros still be effective? The choices we make in life.🙂