# Substitute for P83 ? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 31, 2011, 6:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/substitute-for-p83/53086 "2011-10-31T18:59:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![yungbrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ee59a6/32.png) [@yungbrum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/yungbrum)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 6:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/substitute-for-p83/53086/1 "2011-10-31T18:59:13Z")
I ran out of my favorite phero p83 and wanted to see if any one could think of some thing i can use to replace it and get same or simmilar effects since you cant get it with out being a reporting user ? ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 7:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/substitute-for-p83/53086/2 "2011-10-31T19:02:15Z")
Why not become a reporting user then you can get some whenever you want. ---
**Author:** ![lifeisgood7](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lifeisgood7/32/1834_2.png) [@lifeisgood7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lifeisgood7)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/substitute-for-p83/53086/3 "2011-10-31T19:04:27Z")
dude, just become a reporting user. its not fair to everyone that you ghost the forum without contributing. youve been here for a year and the only thing you have contributed is your intro post to get free stuff and then you can come back again to ask free advice. where are your reports? when have you helped other users? you have been here for a whole year. A YEAR! stop asking for handouts and start helping others… you never know, somebody might help you #end rant ---
**Author:** ![yungbrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ee59a6/32.png) [@yungbrum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/yungbrum)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 7:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/substitute-for-p83/53086/4 "2011-10-31T19:06:45Z")
> [@THE\_GHOST](#): > > Why not become a reporting user then you can get some whenever you want. Is it simple to do that. I read you need to have been reporting for a long time. ? ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 7:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/substitute-for-p83/53086/5 "2011-10-31T19:09:52Z")
> [@yungbrum](#): > > Is it simple to do that. I read you need to have been reporting for a long time. ? Well its up to steve, aslong as you submit regular quality reports you should get there in no time 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![yungbrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ee59a6/32.png) [@yungbrum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/yungbrum)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 7:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/substitute-for-p83/53086/6 "2011-10-31T19:12:05Z")
lifeisgood7 chill out bro nobody’s asking for a hand out. i’m busy as hell and didn’t know how imortant it is to YOU about my participation. Im willing to spent my time to help any one Im just knot on my compure all that much. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 7:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/substitute-for-p83/53086/7 "2011-10-31T19:16:15Z")
For the RU, yes, it’s always good to have a wider base of contribution of experiences with mones. Regular… good is a few times a week… I’d suggest at least. But, quality is more difficult. Look up on some of the journals to get a better ‘view’ of what is a quality post. P51’s and Oasis, Paradox, Marinho to name a few off the top of my head. That’s if you can spend the time for it! I like P123, for a heightening in effects of other mones, such as AMMO or A314… but, what qualities did you find in your [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) that you ‘like’? Then, it’s easier to think of another molecule or MX that may have that same effect… ---
**Author:** ![yungbrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ee59a6/32.png) [@yungbrum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/yungbrum)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 7:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/substitute-for-p83/53086/8 "2011-10-31T19:22:18Z")
Im trying to replicate the high school crush effect. And to get the same type of hits as p83 like the touching and women talking dirty that type stuff ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 8:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/substitute-for-p83/53086/9 "2011-10-31T20:34:43Z")
Your more likely to get a crush effect from a mix then just one molecule, as your 22 I’m guessing your going after younger ladies. Id suggest IG + IH + p74. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 4:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/substitute-for-p83/53086/10 "2011-11-01T04:03:56Z")
My experience with [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) left me with the impression that its the closest thing to “roid rage” I’ve ever experienced. I seem to be especially reactive to it though. ---
**Author:** ![yungbrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ee59a6/32.png) [@yungbrum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/yungbrum)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 6:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/substitute-for-p83/53086/11 "2011-11-01T06:27:45Z")
the IG is out of stock how often do they re stock?? ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 7:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/substitute-for-p83/53086/12 "2011-11-01T07:03:53Z")
> [@1Alpha](#): > > For the RU, yes, it’s always good to have a wider base of contribution of experiences with mones. Regular… good is a few times a week… I’d suggest at least. But, quality is more difficult. Look up on some of the journals to get a better ‘view’ of what is a quality post. P51’s and Oasis, Paradox, Marinho to name a few off the top of my head. That’s if you can spend the time for it! > > I like P123, for a heightening in effects of other mones, such as AMMO or A314… but, what qualities did you find in your P83 that you ‘like’? Then, it’s easier to think of another molecule or MX that may have that same effect… Guy is being all modest again, look at alpha’s too, he always sells himself short. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 9:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/substitute-for-p83/53086/13 "2011-11-01T09:13:37Z")
> [@yungbrum](#): > > the IG is out of stock how often do they re stock?? Frequently - Keep an eye on the store forum for restock info. Generally on Wednesdays. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 2:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/substitute-for-p83/53086/14 "2011-11-01T14:22:16Z")
> [@Whitehall](#): > > My experience with P83 left me with the impression that its the closest thing to “roid rage” I’ve ever experienced. I seem to be especially reactive to it though. It’s funny, how that works… I wear P83 with IShine and I get an amp’ed up IShine with @ 10 to 15 mu of it. Generally, by itself, I’ll get others to be inclined to be friendly toward me. It’s easily steerable to good times. No ‘roid rage’ as you’ve designated. My patience has evaporated, snap at most every little thing that bugs me with those in close proximity having the same attitude… NOT conducive to good times, when applying even 5 mu of [P130](https://a314.com/product/p130/). Would that be some of the symptoms of your ‘roid rage’ with P83? Well, that still doesn’t get yungbrum his alternate to P83, his ‘high school crush’ effect. :o In the consumer line, I’d suggest IG with IH for a similar crush effect. However, not all get the same effects from the P molecules as I describe above with P83 and P130. You may also be designating this P’s reaction in those around you as it’s ability, but, I’d guess, it’s more subtle than that… Anyway, I’ll stop my rambling and send you a couple of post on this P that I found with a “crush effect” search on the Posts. They could help you out as well. > [@My Final Thoughts on P74](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-final-thoughts-on-p74/52283): > > I would like to say a few words before I officially end my testing on P74 used as a standalone. Here is the link for the complete log: [My 7 day trek on P74 (standalone)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-7-day-trek-on-p74-standalone/52020) Most questions you might have is probably already mentioned in my log (including mcgs per spray). This was one helluva interesting putative. I have gotten consistent results from P74, and that surprised me because I did not expect a single molecule to deliver similar results every application. Basically, I will break it down i… > [@Similar product to P83-crush effect](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/similar-product-to-p83-crush-effect/52696/6): > > I’m wondering if people are confusing [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/)’s disinhibition/space-reducing properties with crushing? Again, especially prominent with the likes of TAA, IS or nols. BUT, to emphasis, in my experience, I would recommend IG with IH as a potential of providing a similar crush effect. Though, as in all cases mone, you will need to most important component to the ‘high school crush’ effect, YOU need to be in Harmony to your mones!!! 😃 .