# Success is inevitable: mones + subliminal + bach flower and more to come

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**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [January 4, 2015, 9:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/success-is-inevitable-mones-subliminal-bach-flower-and-more-to-come/63594 "2015-01-04T09:54:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Alpha360](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alpha360](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Alpha360)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2015, 9:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/success-is-inevitable-mones-subliminal-bach-flower-and-more-to-come/63594/1 "2015-01-04T09:54:35Z")

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Hi, I’m 23 male living in a small island where it’s f\* hot and humid.

I’m here to improve with confidence, ability to start a fun conversation with girl. My problem is that I get sometimes too serious on conversation or I get bored. I have a very high standard, usually too high to meet reality. I have a uncommon personality where I live, almost like a stranger born where he wasn’t supposed to be born. It makes it harder to make friend because I have different hobbies than most people.

I almost meet my current goal with the product I have used for about a year. That is the Alpha subliminal from Subliminal shop.

I heard about mones from them but I couldn’t buy here because they didn’t ship where I live, now it’s possible. So I bought the Ultimate [Pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) Introduction Pack for Men about a week ago.

I have some decent result so far.

> [@Hello - Pheromones to spice up my subliminal journey. M/23/Reunion Island](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-pheromones-to-spice-up-my-subliminal-journey-m-23-reunion-island/63573):
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> Hello everyone I’m 23 from Reunion Island I just bought mones recently even if I knew about them for about a year form now. I heard about pheromones from the sublimal-talk forum. Androtics didn’t ship where I live when I first came here. I can’t believe I lived without this amazing technology until now. I had great result Shannon Subliminal so I knew pheromones really worked. When I received my mones last week the [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) spray was spilled. At the beginning I thought it was a perfume f…

Yesterday I tested 3 spread of IO in a mall:  
I notice a girl followed me, she changed direction to follow me but she wasn’t pretty enough so I just continue my journey through. I notice a lot of stare but it’s now the usual thing since about 3 month ago. It’s hard to notice if it’s the mones effect or just the man I become through my subliminal usage.  
I didn’t find anything interesting in the mall. So I moved near the beach where a lot people gather. I noticed a very beautiful girl sitting who when she saw started looking elsewhere to avoid looking at me completely. I guess she didn’t want to be bothered by a hot guy. I should have sit just near her to be sure. Besides this a lot people looked at me like I was some kind of superstar 🆒. I’m not sure if IO doing his thing, maybe it was a 10% upgrade. Then I got home.

One thing I have just notice is that my room has been spilled with IH (my To Go bottle has spilled before delivery) and as a result I have been more blunt when I wrote on subliminal talk. I didn’t notice any effect until now. It’s a strange feeling because I was like literally more honest, I release what was in my mind without thinking about it.

Today I just tested 3 spray of IO and 2 spray of IH.

Self effect: Feeling calm and relaxation, almost like when I get drunk. I feel more free to express myself.

I was with family for dinner like every Sunday. I noticed that my father started a conversation with me that was unusual.  
My family is kind of broken with a lot religion and stupidity. My brother is like a tombstone, mones doesn’t seem to affect him much.  
What I have notice is that no one started fighting over some stupid matter which happen almost every time. It’s like there were really here to enjoy themselves in their own not open mind way.  
My mom where more compliant and more joyful, more than usual (nothing extraordinary though). My grand mother was more pleasing to me, like she owes me something.

update:  
I just made another test, my mom and dad was talking about religion and they are very serious when doing that, almost like it’s the end of the world. But there were less so and I was less irritated by their obliviousness, I used more tact.

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**Author:** ![Alpha360](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alpha360](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Alpha360)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2015, 1:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/success-is-inevitable-mones-subliminal-bach-flower-and-more-to-come/63594/2 "2015-01-04T13:30:52Z")

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I just got out with my motorcycle (97 hp@1400tr/min) and one spray of IS under my nose.  
WOWWWWW 😮 😃  
Can’t describe with word, must be live. I never though my motorcycle was so fast or I just changed in one second.  
It is a drug??? 😛 this product is under rated, I love it.  
I almost got killed twice 🙄, I lost count after the twice 😃  
I think it would be a good idea to not test IJ with my motorcycle. I’m impress, so much fun, so much speed, so much carelessness and I hold myself back.  
It’s been a while I didn’t push the limit so far. Confidence way up ++++++

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**Author:** ![jett](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jett/32/438_2.png) [@jett](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jett)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2015, 6:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/success-is-inevitable-mones-subliminal-bach-flower-and-more-to-come/63594/3 "2015-01-04T18:18:11Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I almost got killed twice , I lost count after the twice

Ummm WOW honey! you are CRAZY \<3

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**Author:** ![CelticPrince](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/celticprince/32/397_2.png) [@CelticPrince](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CelticPrince)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2015, 9:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/success-is-inevitable-mones-subliminal-bach-flower-and-more-to-come/63594/4 "2015-01-04T21:57:26Z")

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Dont kill yourself man..too easy just riding around with all the texting drivers…when Im on my Harley my head is on a swivel, and I never drink and ride…too many idiots on the road these days.

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**Author:** ![Alpha360](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alpha360](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Alpha360)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2015, 6:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/success-is-inevitable-mones-subliminal-bach-flower-and-more-to-come/63594/5 "2015-01-05T06:50:15Z")

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I know I tried to keep it cool but it was too tempting, this mones are better than any alcohol.  
It’s like my motorcycle was 2 times faster, the sound, everything was amplified. And with this confidence I did things I should not have done but wow it was exciting, a little frightening sometimes.  
I used a lot of tools to clear my fears so I don’t really feel the anxiety that I should have like most people. And with mones wow, I just push an upgrade button.

About 1 year ago I was afraid to ride a motorcycle, I don’t even know how it’s possible yet it’s feel so natural now.

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**Author:** ![Alpha360](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alpha360](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Alpha360)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2015, 10:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/success-is-inevitable-mones-subliminal-bach-flower-and-more-to-come/63594/6 "2015-02-25T10:28:00Z")

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Long report and some questions

Temperature around 27c / 80.6f, humidity very high.

A314 to Go 1.32B:

One of the best effect I got from pheromones, it makes me more in control, more alpha. I talk less and laugh less though, more serious attitude. People give me more respect. I had some good results with some younger girls. Despite what is said on this forum I seems to be more comfortable using this than IG (IG is supposed to be better for younger guy). Combined with IS I had some smooth conversation with some girls. I also used it with IO but the A314 was from the morning and it was around 2PM so I guess the effect was almost gone. This time when I approach a girl the conversation was so smooth that I lost control, I talk too much about myself. I have to be careful with IO so that I don’t speak too much and let the girl do her job.  
I used 1 spray to 3 spray, the effect doesn’t seem better above 2 spray.

Instant openness:

Very chatty, I used 3 spray and someone approach me to ask me where the toilet was, he ask me out of 10 people around me. I was like the messy to him. In combination with other phero like IS it makes a conversation very smooth like you already know the person. Easy to make friend with that one but no more than friend. When I was in a ice cream shop some young girl around 15 tried to start a conversation, I was wearing IS too.

Instant Shine:

The best product I ever use. Everytime I use it I see people been more shiny around me. They start to smile and all barrier start to slowly break down. I have tested on some stranger and I made them smell it directly from the bottle and most of the time they start to smile for no reason. Even my brother who is very shy/cold start to smile and laugh after a short exposure, it’s even better when he doesn’t know I used it on him.

Instant honesty:

This one I have to be careful when using it. I lost control once, I start to talk about hypnosis with someone I shouldn’t have. With all the ?secret? I have this one is not recommended for me. People would start to freak out if I start to talk about some deeper subject. Instant openness is better in this area but it is also more boring. If I can keep myself from talking about ?esoteric stuff? I would prefer this one over IO. I didn’t test it a lot though because this one has leaked in my room. It made me talk about some deeper stuff on other forum, thing I don’t mention usually.

Turn up the heat:

Highly sexual, when I used it alone I started to feel very alpha in a sexual way. Dominant, a lot of strong eyes contact from me, a feeling that make me want to touch and play with girls. I started to make comment about girls around me, watching their ass in obvious manner. I didn’t test it yet when I talk with a girl.

[Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/):

This one makes me more approachable, I talk easily with my friends. If I didn’t know what the name was I would describe it as a social pheromone without any manly tones, almost like a nice guy. I didn’t feel any alphaness from it, a shiny kid more than a man I would say. Gentle Man or nice Man, overly beta male but very chatty, confident with talking and pleasuring other almost in a submissive way.

P95:

When I used that I feel good/better. I want to play/flirt with other, to make some lightly jokes and get the mood around better. Used in a social context I didn’t see much from it yet. There is some resemblance with ammo but it is more girly.

AMMO:

Disappointed from it when used alone. There is some playful behavior when I used it on me but no reaction from others. It’s strange because when I used it to spice up IG I think I OD. I was in a sushi bar, a lot of people where coming. So I decided to add 2 spray from AMMO because I was like a little girl with IG alone. But when I spray it on my hand no one came to sit anymore and there was a lot of people passing by. I then washed it and came back and then people start to sit again. So I think it was a OD with 2 spray of IG, 1 spray IS and 30 min later with 2 spray of AMMO. Maybe it was because the temperature was very high and it was humid as hell.

One big drawback when I test is that the bottle is too small. All the money I spent on this and I have only a 5ml bottle. I wouldn’t care if I didn’t have to test but I do. The problem is that if I really test completely one product for at least a week like what is recommended in the forum then the bottle would get empty very fast. Once the test is done there is no more left in the bottle.

ex:  
Day 1 : 1 spray  
Day 2 : 2 spray  
Day 3 : 3 spray  
Day 4 : 4 spray  
Day 5 : 5 spray  
Day 6 : 6 spray  
Total : 21 spray /40 already used in just a week -\> To GO bottle is half empty or half full.

I almost forgot that the mones are supposed to last for ~3 hours depending on weather condition so in one day you have to reapply more than one time. In short you can easily consume a 5 ml bottle in a week just for testing purpose 😮

Personal conclusion: testing I’m fine with it but testing and loosing my money I don’t agree with that. When I buy something I expect to get a value from it. If I test with the recommended method I lose at least half the value on something that is already expensive.

I’m going to buy another another round from Androtics mostly because I have some gift certificate and I love Instant shine. I’m also going to try some new stuff but I’m hesitating between Instant jerk and P75. Which one would you recommend me?

The drawback I see from IJ is that the To Go bottle is too small and the full size is way too much expensive. I would prefer to test the IJ but with only a 5ml bottle it might be hard or maybe it is like TUTH (you don’t need a lot, 1 spray is enough).

Any advice? I don’t know much about p75 but it seems great when I read the different thread. What size would you recomend if I buy this one? 30ml/ 2.5 mcg or 5mcg

I’m also wondering why there is only one oil product (A314), why there is not a IS oil version for example? Oil is supposed to be better in hot/humid condition so why only one oil product?

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**Author:** ![mrseeker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mrseeker/32/5177_2.png) [@mrseeker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mrseeker)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2015, 11:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/success-is-inevitable-mones-subliminal-bach-flower-and-more-to-come/63594/7 "2015-02-25T11:52:43Z")

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> [@Alpha360](#):
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> I’m going to buy another another round from Androtics mostly because I have some gift certificate and I love Instant shine. I’m also going to try some new stuff but I’m hesitating between Instant jerk and P75. Which one would you recommend me?
> 
> The drawback I see from IJ is that the To Go bottle is too small and the full size is way too much expensive. I would prefer to test the IJ but with only a 5ml bottle it might be hard or maybe it is like TUTH (you don’t need a lot, 1 spray is enough).
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> Any advice? I don’t know much about p75 but it seems great when I read the different thread. What size would you recomend if I buy this one? 30ml/ 2.5 mcg or 5mcg

I tried the [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/), at 30mcg its like I am walking around like a boxing guy or hooligan or whatever you like to call it. Its weird, but I tend to get a very angry vibe from it. P109, same effect but more controlled. I haven’t written it down, but its in the same league. Difference with P109 however is that I can control myself. Its a very alpha vibe, however its more like I am in an army setting than a loose bullet. I haven’t really tried it out in the public. The sprays might be quite expensive, but so is the fact that they also lose quite a bit on them too. Normally with the sprays I never go beyond the 30mcg, that is just the limit for me. 20mcg is usually enough to get my freaking out like hell, everything else is just pure overkill.

I would recommend using the 30ml 5mcg. I have several bottles which are 2.5mcg but to get good effects from them I need to spray double the dosage of the 5mcg.

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**Author:** ![Alpha360](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alpha360](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Alpha360)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2015, 5:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/success-is-inevitable-mones-subliminal-bach-flower-and-more-to-come/63594/8 "2015-03-29T17:02:50Z")

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**This is all the note I kept until now**

I’ll do a mini review of each product I got which is:  
IS, Turn Up The Heat, A314rev32, IO, IH, Ammo, p95 , IG, mx297

I will start from the best effect I got to the Negative

IS: Most consistent product, self effect are very good but doesn’t last very long (3h). And after a short period I feel like I didn’t sleep the night before. It feels like a drug, I get high and then some tiredness creep in. Young girls really like this one, I saw some deer in headlight with that one. I have to admit though that it seems I don’t get the full effect from IS anymore. When combining this one with IO and Turn Up The Heat some girls with their boyfriend touch me and stayed near me for no reason: most blatant hit I saw from a 9 with her boyfriends. I have the to go bottle and unfortunately to me it’s not worth the price, 5ml strengh 2 doesn’t last very long.

Turn Up The Heat: the good with that is that girls really get horny. The bad is that most of them will run away from fear especially the young one. Self effect are good, I want to take action with that one, I want to touch girls and do some bad things with them. I never tested more than one spray which seems like enough to me. I got a sex offer from on date with this one (read my intro post for more). One friend of mine didn’t report anything with his “wife”, he used 3 spray and didn’t see anything unusual.

A314rev32: Good product but very cold. Conversation with everyone seems hard to establish for people around you. This product to me is for work alone unless you add Turn Up The Heat with it. But then you have to shoot with girl over 28. I got a good work attitude with this one, there is some alpha attitude from it but nothing exceptional contrary to what is said on their product page. The self effect are good though, I like the scent which is light but attractive.

IO: Girls talk more and are more open to talk easily. Some comfort like people know you already. Self effect : with one girl I approach I talked too much and lost my alpha attitude. Only good when combining with other product.

IH: Deeper stuff that I would rather not use. I’m not good with deeper subject because I know too much stuff and I get overexcited about it. No good for me to approah though I still have to test that one. But this product leaked so I don’t have enough product to do anything. It’s sad to me 5ML is not enough to do a proper test and but with a leak it’s like you got only one shot.

Ammo: Not sure if there is anything in there. First time I used it seems there were something but then something. So I guess this one is just placebo with a nice scent. It seems there is some flirty behavior from it. Hard to see through this one. It’s supposed to be really good according the product page but in real life 😕  
Maybe for cold approach. Self effect: not sure, some flirty behavior maybe. It’s like I’m testing a beta product. Actually besides IS, IO, OH they all seems like beta test product.

P95: Wearing this I feel more happy, I want cheer the mood up around people. I would say it would be like instant shine but in a more beta ish way. I tested from 1 spray to 5 spray but it didn’t seems to do anything more. I tested this one with a girl I knew a little bit in a ice cream shop but I didn’t see any obvious change (2 spray). One thing though is that she offered me a reduction on something very easily, most of the time she seems more rebellious with me. But this could be “luck”, hard to say if the phero did anything. The change seems very subtle. Need more testing but like every product it’s impossible because there not enough juice in 5ml :o

IG: If I didn’t know what’s the label was I would have said that this product is only some social product. Alone the only good effect that I had was that I could talk with my male friends more easily. There were less arguments when I talk with my friends. With girls \> absolutely nada \< I approach 2 girl around 20 and I think I would have done better without anything on. I read some good testimonial about this product but for me nothing. I gave my friend this product and he didn’t report anything either. Maybe in combo it’s much better but alone it’s not better than perfume.

MX297: Tested only once at home with my family and I got a depression from it. I used 3 spray and don’t want to touch it again. Self effect : hard to tell \> I felt different at first then after dinner I got depress, emotional, a real mess. 2 of my friend tested this product and didn’t report anything also. Maybe I will test it again but it seems like hurting myself for nothing. If I have a night to waste maybe I’ll spray it again.

This morning I spray 4.5 spray of P95:

Self effect seems to be the same than with lower dosage. Which is a better mood, carefree attitude. But it seems that the effect get more more subtle each time I used it again. A bit like Instant Shine.  
I didn’t see anything unusual from my daily interaction, I just seems to be less caring about what’s happening around me.

This paragraph I’m not sure about it but it seems to be coming from P95:  
It’s a carefree attitude but very subtle like my reality is soft, my harshness is lowered. Though I don’t think this time I was in a beta attitude. It’s like I wanted everyone to understand each other without any rough side to it.

I just sprayed one mx297 (7 hours later):  
The smell make me remember a scent that is young, playful, attractive. I like the smell. But I can’t pinpoint any benefit yet. I hope I doesn’t get a depression like last time at 3 spray.

I’m wondering if anyone has experimented with P95?

[Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) = instant beta boy.

At least the version that I got is like that for me. Today I use 2 spray IG and 2 spray IO  
Weather: humid and hot with some wind.  
effect on me: I was walking faster, eyes contact was more timid, I couldn’t hold on eyes contact with some guy, even some girls Girl 😮 , I talk faster with a girl I knew, I couldn’t relax easily, I was moving like a shy girl. In short I was a real beta boy. What a mess ☹

Effect on others, my girl friend was more talkative, more relax. Only one OIO with a girl that I would not even talk to. I’ll never spray that poison on me ever again.

First time I wanted the effect to go away fast, I felt much better after 3 hours. At least I know now why I could talk with my male friend easily with that: submissive like a little boy.

A few hours later

I thought it was more IG but it is be both. I never got any result with IG anyway.  
IO + IS + Turn Up The Heat has worked on the other hand, I guess it’s the Turn Up The Heat that save the party

I approached a hot girl with IO I was very beta too. And it didn’t conclude at all, the girl never called me back. Doesn’t surprise me because I was talking way too much and behaving like a beta.

Today 2 spray of P95:

I was searching on another forum what p95 is and I found that according to some old trustworthy member that it’s androsterone or a variation of androsterone. So then I reread the description of androsterone to find out that it’s considered kinda like an “alpha” mones.  
And it is suspected that IG contain androsterone. One member described androsterone as schwarzy because there is a fun aura and some alpha characteristic.

My own experience is that P95 was and is making me more fun to be around, my dad even ask me advice just after I sprayed P95 (seeking validation twice).  
But to me this is not what an alpha male is, it detracts me from my new personality that I acquired which to me is way more alpha. Before knowing all that I thought that P95 was either in IS or IG or both. To me P95 and IG is more reserved to a guy that is a beta male growing into a alpha. Which is not my case. I like the fun vibe though but I don’t accept the downgrade, I feel like shit or like a woman is manipulating me which I hate. To me the mone that gave me the most alpha feeling was Turn Up The Heat, but it’s seems too sexual for younger girls. A314 is the boring alpha.

So my conclusion is that a product where androsterone is the main ingredient is not for me. I will need more testing to be sure about that though. Maybe it’s just Androtics product that he is completely defective or not 😃

I did another test with A314 this afternoon. I decided to go on a ride with my motorcycle (98cv, 600).  
Last time I used pheromone on my motorcycle it was with Instant Shine. I was so excited that a little bit more and I would be dead.  
The word fear was almost non existent. It was a nice ride. Be warn that I use hypnosis, subliminal and a lot of other tools to remove my  
fear already so I’m pretty much crazy already so it’s not all pheromone but it’s the cherry on top 😃

So I spray one time on my chine for self effect (ain’t gonna do anything on chest). So after a few 10 minutes I realized I leaned more than  
usual with less caring. I choose A314 because I’m more serious with that and IS seems like suicidal to test it again on my motorcycle. Even though I’m sure I will try it again just for science or fun.

So after 30min I was a bit too much confident and I didn’t look enough. I thought the car next to me stopped because he was afraid for nothing like usual but this time there was really a car passing by. So not seeing it because I was dodging another car in the same time I didn’t stop.  
Thankfully the car passing by saw me and dodged me. It was completely my fault 😮 . So I almost died but I didn’t feel any fear at all !!! Crazy Usually I feel some little stuff inside my belly but at this moment nothing. So then I talk to the guys inside the car who dodge me at the last second to say I’m really sorry. It was a woman driving and her husband (beta stupid male) who was shouting like it was him who almost get killed 🙄. But It’s was my fault so I just say I’m really sorry and then I was gone.

What strike me is that they are in a car and they are more afraid than me. There is little chance they die if they didn’t dodge me. So why all the fuss 🆒 If I was dead I would have no regret. Motorcycle is dangerous, you can get kill and that’s what fun about it.

Note to self: don’t use pheromone when riding your motorcycle. And don’t dare use SOB when it will be there next week, at least not before testing it in a social environment

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**Author:** ![von\_phero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e8c25b/32.png) [@von\_phero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/von_phero)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 7:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/success-is-inevitable-mones-subliminal-bach-flower-and-more-to-come/63594/9 "2015-03-30T19:34:25Z")

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I can also vouch for the impatient racer effect mones can give you on a bike. If u need to spray before u ride u can put it on your wrists for no self effects. I used to ride like a real dick, now I’ve calmed it down a bit.

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**Author:** ![Alpha360](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alpha360](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Alpha360)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 5:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/success-is-inevitable-mones-subliminal-bach-flower-and-more-to-come/63594/10 "2015-03-31T05:29:22Z")

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The point was to have self effects.

I just sold my bike anyway. I guess I will live longer that way.

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**Author:** ![Alpha360](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alpha360](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Alpha360)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 1:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/success-is-inevitable-mones-subliminal-bach-flower-and-more-to-come/63594/11 "2015-04-01T13:19:55Z")

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Two nights going out with 1 spray A314rev32b + 2 spray [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) as per Dsouza recommendation.

Self effect: cold/serious vibe from A314 is gone. Replace by a playful alpha with confidence. Though I notice some slight beta attitude from it, 10% I would say. Maybe 1:1 would be better.

First testing was at night going out with 2 friends to eat some sandwich and drink some beer. I often do that. I notice that the conversation was much better, flowing while being still being interesting. Sometime it gets really boring. But that night it was really good. I talked easily and it seems I was better at it, hard to be sure though because it’s some long time friend. It was much better than IG which turn me into a beta guy.

Second testing was around 3pm, I got out to buy some stuff. Then later I bought some ice cream like I do usually. My girl friend wasn’t working today so I just sat outside enjoying my fruit+ice cream. I notice that I was behaving more beta from it, I was less slower in my move like a little kid getting all crazy about his Ice cream. Then someone that I spent a night with was passing by. So I move my head in a way to appear surprise/playful and I say hi (in french P ) . He was with his wife. He is much older than me and in that kind of interaction I sometimes feel a little bit awkward because we are from different background + the age. But here my words were smooth, everything went up perfect. I was impress by myself. No problem at all, no blushing, no shyness, just perfect.

Then later I was walking near the beach enjoying the view (sea not boobs mind you, it was both actually). There was no interesting girl so I just sat down by myself. Then I decided to practice my hypnosis skill. So went into a trance and it is the first time it was so easy to just go into it. My inner voice was perfect, I got there in just 1 minute. Usually I would spend at least ~8 mins on my better day. So this tell me that my confidence was really upgraded.

Thanks dsouza for the tips, A314 is not so useless after all, It was actually really good but I’m still discovering the phero world so I don’t have any comparison as of now. SOB should be there in a week I hope.

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 7:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/success-is-inevitable-mones-subliminal-bach-flower-and-more-to-come/63594/12 "2015-04-12T07:24:07Z")

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I have been testing APi oil since Thursday and I can honestly say that I prefer this over A314rev32b. For once I actually see some woman getting hot and bothered. It never happened with A314, at least I didn’t see any obvious things like that. The self effect are more noticeable and much better. Dsouza recommended to add 2 spray ammo with A314 which I tested and it felt better than A314 alone, I got some hit in a club with this combo(not sure though because I sprayed TUTH one hour before that). But I feel a bit beta when wearing this combo.

I noticed with APi that I talk more easily and say what should be said without any shame at all. Never happened with A314, I feel cold with this one, I feel neutral like a wall. With Ammo on top I was able to talk more easily but felt beta. With APi I was able to talk easily and keep a strong frame. I tested it with friend who is always manipulating people around him and with Api I was able to “push him down” easily. With A314 I was wondering if people around saw me as alpha or not, it wasn’t obvious at all.

That’s the experience I got from wearing this 2, it might be different for some people though. I’m quiet surprised that A314 price is still this high when such a product exist (APi). Maybe the oil is much better than the spray, I don’t have A314 oil and at this price I don’t think I will buy it.

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**Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 9:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/success-is-inevitable-mones-subliminal-bach-flower-and-more-to-come/63594/13 "2015-09-18T09:50:02Z")

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I have been testing NPA recently and I like it very much. For now it was a cougar station, with a few young woman interested though. But I got the best hit I ever saw with it in a club, the first time I used it. The hit was on par with the hit I had with Bad Wolf in the same club.

The hit with NPA was more direct though, the girl was more conscious of what she did, she came to dance for me basically. Looking at me like I’m super hot and I deserve it.

With Bad wolf it was an erratic young girl that couldn’t control herself, the hit with BW seems more unconscious. It’s like the girls don’t know what they are doing. Only problem with Bad Wolf is that I get headache from it in a closed space like a cinema or a car. I remember the last time I had sex with it, I got a headache, my girl didn’t have it though, she was on my spell, ready to do anything I ask her.

It’s been a long time since I reported here. I changed my mind about SteveO product (pheroXS). The guy is not reliable to me. Thinking about it now I think I would trust more Androtics than SteveO. There are on a similar level I guess. The forum here is much better here though, at least the old post. A bit like pherotruth the first years the forum was much better until 2013 when the forum started to get bombarded by some divine intervention.

Money does change some people or it reveals their weakness. It’s all for the best because we learn from it.

Still waiting for the true A314 version that I never tested. After reading all the stuff about this one I’m curious. The version I got wasn’t exceptional, I would rate as a 7/10 maybe. I hope the Super Hot Deluxe Ultra Super Magnum Gold Edition is worth a try 😃

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**Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 11:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/success-is-inevitable-mones-subliminal-bach-flower-and-more-to-come/63594/16 "2015-09-18T11:44:15Z")

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I have been testing NPA recently and I like it very much. For now it was a cougar station, with a few young woman interested though. But I got the best hit I ever saw with it in a club, the first time I used it. The hit was on par with the hit I had with Bad Wolf in the same club.

The hit with NPA was more direct though, the girl was more conscious of what she did, she came to dance for me basically. Looking at me like I’m super hot and I deserve it.

With Bad wolf it was an erratic young girl that couldn’t control herself, the hit with BW seems more unconscious. It’s like the girls don’t know what they are doing. Only problem with Bad Wolf is that I get headache from it in a closed space like a cinema or a car. I remember the last time I had sex with it, I got a headache, my girl didn’t have it though, she was on my spell, ready to do anything I ask her.

It’s been a long time since I reported here. I changed my mind about SteveO product (pheroXS). The guy is not reliable to me. Thinking about it now I think I would trust more Androtics than SteveO. There are on a similar level I guess. The forum here is much better here though, at least the old post. A bit like pherotruth the first years the forum was much better until 2013 when the forum started to get bombarded by some divine intervention.

Money does change some people or it reveals their weakness. It’s all for the best because we learn from it.

Still waiting for the true A314 version that I never tested. After reading all the stuff about this one I’m curious. The version I got wasn’t exceptional, I would rate as a 7/10 maybe. I hope the Super Hot Deluxe Ultra Super Magnum Gold Edition is worth a try 😃

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**Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 7:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/success-is-inevitable-mones-subliminal-bach-flower-and-more-to-come/63594/17 "2015-09-24T07:05:39Z")

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I have been testing NPA recently and I like it very much. For now it was a cougar station, with a few young woman interested though. But I got the best hit I ever saw with it in a club, the first time I used it. The hit was on par with the hit I had with Bad Wolf in the same club.

The hit with NPA was more direct though, the girl was more conscious of what she did, she came to dance for me basically. Looking at me like I’m super hot and I deserve it.

With Bad wolf it was an erratic young girl that couldn’t control herself, the hit with BW seems more unconscious. It’s like the girls don’t know what they are doing. Only problem with Bad Wolf is that I get headache from it in a closed space like a cinema or a car. I remember the last time I had sex with it, I got a headache, my girl didn’t have it though, she was on my spell, ready to do anything I ask her.

It’s been a long time since I reported here. I changed my mind about SteveO product (pheroXS). The guy is not reliable to me. Thinking about it now I think I would trust more Androtics than SteveO. There are on a similar level I guess. The forum here is much better here though, at least the old post. A bit like pherotruth the first years the forum was much better until 2013 when the forum started to get bombarded by some divine intervention.

Money does change some people or it reveals their weakness. It’s all for the best because we learn from it.

Still waiting for the true A314 version that I never tested. After reading all the stuff about this one I’m curious. The version I got wasn’t exceptional, I would rate as a 7/10 maybe. I hope the Super Hot Deluxe Ultra Super Magnum Gold Edition is worth a try 😃
